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Better watch out for any offensive spoken remarks, even if highly odious and taken in context that you may make around the water cooler at ABC Co. in Podunk. Yep, the bloggers are going to get you and get you fired. They are just bad evil people ...yada yada yada and so goes the scare tactics of the left.

I am a little late to the bloggfest as it were so I don't know for sure but it seems to me that Trent Lott was gone after big time by MSM. I could be wrong.

So, we should all fold up our tents, pack up our equipment or what ever and stop going after people that accuse the US Military of targeting journalists in Iraq and covered up Saddam's misdeeds for many years. We are just bad people for taking such actions againts such small misdemeanors.

1 posted on 02/14/2005 9:00:32 PM PST by cleo1939
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POWER TO THE PEOPLE!


2 posted on 02/14/2005 9:01:47 PM PST by Dallas59 (Bush said the "F" word 27 times January 20th, 2005!)
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This IS scary! We can't allow these blogs to create this "chilling effect" and prevent news people from making false accusations about our armed forces! They have every RIGHT to invent stuff about what our people are doing in combat! What is this, 1984?!?!?!


3 posted on 02/14/2005 9:03:14 PM PST by Darkwolf377 ("Drowning someone...I wouldn't have a part in that."--Teddy K)
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I fear that blogs may soon make many Americans afraid to speak their minds.

The author's a little late on this. PC started doing this over a decade ago. I guess that it's a concern now that liberal icons are being affected.

4 posted on 02/14/2005 9:04:59 PM PST by skip_intro
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Get over it. The MSM is for the first time having their own feet held to the same fire they have held so many others over.

Jordan's comment that he didn't want CNN to be "unfairly tarnished" completely overlooked the fact that he had unfairly tarnished the U.S. military, and not for the first time.

It's a new day, and if you appoint yourself as the truth tellers, you damn well better tell the truth.

5 posted on 02/14/2005 9:07:47 PM PST by xJones
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This comparison is a minimization of what Eason Jordan did. He committed treason in my opinion - you don't lob false accusations at your own nation's military in a time of war, certainly not on foreign soil and in a public forum in which you aim to influence people. Lott was just stupid, and Summers merely clumsy.


6 posted on 02/14/2005 9:07:59 PM PST by thoughtomator (If Islam is a religion, so is Liberal!)
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Plead for a new social order under which a few offensive spoken remarks, even if highly odious and taken in context, are forgiven.

Sure, you're forgiven.

Now pack your s**t and get the hell out.

7 posted on 02/14/2005 9:08:41 PM PST by randog (What the....?!)
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more of a "truth effect"


9 posted on 02/14/2005 9:10:07 PM PST by isom35
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This boy talks about Larry Summers, who didn't need blogs to get in hot water, and omits Dan Rather altogether. Maybe he should stick to his game theories and leave real life to others.


10 posted on 02/14/2005 9:10:26 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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A chill wind blowing..... /Tim Robbins


11 posted on 02/14/2005 9:11:45 PM PST by Brett66 (W1 W1 W1 W1 W1 W1 W1 W1)
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I've posted this before.

The best book I've digested in quite a while is, "The Wisdom of Crowds", by James Surowiecki. He practically predicts the whole deal. The power of the bits of brain of many will trump the certified brains of the few every time. Check it out.

12 posted on 02/14/2005 9:13:05 PM PST by Glenn (The two keys to character: 1) Learn how to keep a secret. 2) ...)
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Will the internet cause people to stop talking?


14 posted on 02/14/2005 9:14:14 PM PST by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi.)
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Oops...He accidently forgot about Robert Byrd saying the N-work on national TV...


15 posted on 02/14/2005 9:15:10 PM PST by Onelifetogive (* Sarcasm tag ALWAYS required. For some FReepers, sarcasm can NEVER be obvious enough.)
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What an ignorant article. Jordan did not resign because his remarks were "offensive." His problem was that his remarks indicated a gross incompetence as a newsman/executive.

Trent Lott, on the other hand, was brought down by the MSM. A few bloggers paid attention to his birthday remarks to Thurmond. On the other hand, the MSM was delighted to have a lever to take him down.

The President of Harvard was not even touched by the blogosphere. The lame-brained attack on him came from card-carrying feminists in and around his own institution.

The article compares apples, oranges, and short-hair cats -- a comparison that holds no water whatsoever. Along the way, it demonstrates a lack of knowledge about the current tension between the MSM and the "new media." I thought TechStation was more accurate than that.

Congressman Billybob

This a special post, not a column, "Columbia Journalism Review Still Doesn't Have a Clue About the Outing of Eason Jordan"

20 posted on 02/14/2005 9:19:10 PM PST by Congressman Billybob (My tagline is on vacation.)
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Trent Lott was gone after big time by MSM.

And your not wrong it was the MSM that went after Trent not the Bloggers. The MSM can't even keep their lies straight.

21 posted on 02/14/2005 9:23:40 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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Blogs had nothing to do with Lott's fall. His own mouth did. He didn't say anythig out of line about Thurmond, but he is SUCH a fool and coward that his own craven words and actions on national telivision afterward are what did him in. Granted, he WAS just continuing the same pattern of behavior he'd established as majority leader.

Jordan would have got off scott free - again - if not for his public admission that it was his policy to cover up Saddam's atrocities in return for a Baghdad bureau of CNN. He said it was to protect his reporters lives, but how many thousands of Iraqi lives were lost to Saddam's regime during CNN's years-long coverup? WHY didn't Jordan, as an alleged human being, quietly notify the proper authorities? He's a Clintonista, and he could have notifed the CIA while Clinton was in office. He didn't. After offering the lame excuse that he was just making the best of a bad situation, the matter was quietly dropped. But not forgotten.

Just recently he made comments to people eager to see Americans die. What did Jordan do? After unsuccessfully trying to wait for this storm to blow over - aided by his silent colleagues - he offers the lame excuse that he was misunderstood. If any Americans die as a result, he'll be complicit in that too. Anyone with a shred of human decency would agree.

23 posted on 02/14/2005 9:32:54 PM PST by cake_crumb (Leftist Credo: "One Wing to Rule Them all and to the Dark Side Bind Them")
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Hmmm. Did Mr. Miller care when Rush Limbaugh was chased off of ESPN when he said something someone didn't like? How about Rob Blair? Trent Lott? Jimmy "the Greek" Snyder? Rodney Marsh? John Rocker?

No, it's OK to fire someone for making comments that a liberal finds offensive, but if a conservative finds a comment offensive, then it is a with hunt, censorship, and McCarthyism.

24 posted on 02/14/2005 9:36:00 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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I thought everybody would be interested. A reporter from the Boston globe, who was an embedded reporter, rips Jordan pretty good over at Poynter:

"By way of disclosure, I was embedded with the tank company that fired on the Palestine, and was within 100 yards of the tank that fired on April 8, 2003. Sgt. Shawn Gibson saw what he thought was an Iraqi forward observer in a tall building. We had been alerted that an Iraqi FO had eyes on our position an hour earlier. The tankers had been in combat for up to 30 hours by the time Gibson fired, and after a particularly heavy pre-dawn counterattack was repelled, continued to be plagued with mortar fire and RPGs -- including fire from the east bank of the Tigris and from tall buildings. In a month of combat operations with A Co. 4/64 Armor, I witnessed numerous examples of restraint when the tankers put themselves in danger in order to avoid killing civilians. Any suggestion that American soldiers have purposefully killed journalists in Iraq is repugnant, ignores the facts and reflects a disturbing bias. The failure of a major media watchdog publication's editor to get this is also disturbing."

http://poynter.org/forum/?id=letters


32 posted on 02/14/2005 9:49:40 PM PST by rwfromkansas ("War is an ugly thing, but...the decayed feeling...which thinks nothing worth war, is worse." -Mill)
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Prof Miller opines...I plead for a new social order under which a few offensive spoken remarks, even if highly odious and taken in context, are forgiven.

Ummmm-kay. Why am I a bit suspicious of Prof. Miller's motives, here?

Ah, I've got it. Over the last four years, the left has banded together chanting a cacophony of hate speech steadily rising to the deafening level . We (the internet forums, or "bloggers" as we are inevitably referred to) point out that a few of those hate speeches are irresponsible and un-American LIES, and suddenly, it's the bloggers who are a new danger.

Chilling Effect, Professor? Nah.

How about Leveling Effect, or Moderating Effect, or even Accountability Effect? Much different from "chilling". And a college professor should know this!

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35 posted on 02/14/2005 10:04:18 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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Lets hope we chill leftwing media attacks on the truth


36 posted on 02/14/2005 10:07:11 PM PST by GeronL (The Old Media is at war with the New Media...... We are all Matt Drudges now.)
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James D. Miller

37 posted on 02/14/2005 10:10:35 PM PST by kcvl
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