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Warning: This site will make your blood boil (my title) [Hoax site by white power loon]
"Forsake The Troops" ^

Posted on 02/23/2005 12:43:51 PM PST by mhking

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To: Lost Highway
If S. Vogel and L. Vogel are brother and sister.
And the moderator guy is a cousin of S. Vogel
And the moderator guy is dating L. Vogel.

Then I must pose a question. Does anyone else hear banjos in the background?
81 posted on 02/23/2005 1:38:04 PM PST by GreenOgre
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To: mhking

Has anyone else spotted that Scott and "Bringeroftruth" are *distant* cousins according to the biographical info posted? So Scotty-boy's SISTER Laura got knocked up by her COUSIN? South Jersey -- it's a whole other state-of-mind!


82 posted on 02/23/2005 1:38:43 PM PST by TrueKnightGalahad (It is only with the heart that one can see rightly. What is essential is invisible to the eye. A S-E)
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To: MadIvan

Good,

Words have meaning. To often people say things when anonymous which they never would if they were “On the record”. They said it, they can live with it.

Red6


83 posted on 02/23/2005 1:39:23 PM PST by Red6
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To: ArGee
We are a military family! Let this old lady loose on those worthless pieces of whale crap. Line them up and let my blind Husband, whose site was severally damaged while on a black mission for the Navy and therefore is not entitled to military disabled pension, beat the devil out of them with his seeing eye cane.
84 posted on 02/23/2005 1:39:47 PM PST by Coldwater Creek ('We voted like we prayed")
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To: GreenOgre

You JUST beat me to it! :-)


85 posted on 02/23/2005 1:39:59 PM PST by TrueKnightGalahad (It is only with the heart that one can see rightly. What is essential is invisible to the eye. A S-E)
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To: TrueKnightGalahad
These idiots sound more like that they are from Arkansas than New Jersey.
86 posted on 02/23/2005 1:41:51 PM PST by Coldwater Creek ('We voted like we prayed")
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To: Red6

Is what you wrote like a map to the email and actual address/names to those punks running that site?

Info on who registered this site (hiding behind WhoisGuard)
When site registered: Created On:12-Feb-2005 18:21:00 UTC
IP address, domain host, etc... Cowards are hiding behind WhoisGuard.

Trying to run skip trace now to find out who these clowns are and if any reports of individuals in military uniforms going to service member families where they are.


87 posted on 02/23/2005 1:42:37 PM PST by deepFR
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To: mhking

And, gee, he has all of fifteen members "all across the country". They just blanket the US (NOT). What a simpleton.

People want an all volunteer army, but want volunteers without benefits--ain't gonna happen.

vaudine


88 posted on 02/23/2005 1:43:34 PM PST by vaudine
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To: mhking
"We currently have fifteen members in our organization, spanning all across this country."

..."fifteen members...spanning all across this country?" Heh, heh. That's a thought. Those "fifteen members" would serve their country better by each spanning him/her self across our country instead of doing what they're doing.
89 posted on 02/23/2005 1:46:05 PM PST by familyop ("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Latin.)
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To: deepFR

:)

You're dedicated!

Red6


90 posted on 02/23/2005 1:47:05 PM PST by Red6
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To: mhking

In the same vein, check out this rant from our DUmmiie buddies:

The United States of War

Edited on Tue Feb-22-05 02:16 PM by MrScorpio
Welcome to the National Security State, the global arbiter of perpetual war, police state tactics and the militarization of society on all levels. It's a place where the state religion hawks Jesus wearing an Uncle Sam hat, driving a gas guzzling Humvee with little plastic flags attached to the door and a gay couple, recently married in the People's Republic Taxechusettes, dragged behind in chains that are attached to the rear bumper.

The National Meal is a fat laden, high calorie, low nutrition blob of dead, imported cow flesh, made possible courtesy of the patent protected products of Big Pharma and the destruction of the Amazon River Basin. Just the thing to feed the teaming masses of bloated and lethargic teenagers who have not yet found their proper place in the ranks of cannon fodder slated to fight future "preemptive" wars for their Neocon masters.

The National Anthem is an overblown ode to teenage sexualization and wretched excess, visualized by bright colors, wiggling flesh and flashy montages. It's a really catchy tune that's proud and swaggering, as it espouses the inferiority of older and more developed cultures that have done nothing more than to be the receded and ancient roots to our own bright and shining tree.

The National Pastime is electronically manipulated violence brought to you courtesy of the computer gaming technicians of the United States Army, their cousins who are the overworked and underpaid wizards of Silicon Valley and the monied patrons of Hollywood special FX technicians. The prerequisite for this orgiastic ballet of mayhem is that it's brought to you without context or consequence and that the display of gore is as cartoonish as humanly possible and devoid of any resemblance to the poison of stomach churning reality.

The dollar is a shiny new sedan that the drives directly from Wall Street to party at the Pentagon. Fact is mutated so much by the mainstream media, that by the time it becomes "information that you can use", it's devoid of the truth. Propaganda is the mantra of government and its supplicants are paid handsomely with the current coin of the realm, access to the throne and filthy, taxpayer supported lucre. Whores are dressed up and propped up to cry foul against their masters' enemies and when they're discovered, the collared lapdogs of the honored press are given a tug of the leash and told to heel. Only the untagged watchdogs of the blogasphere are free to bark loudly and intently at such a shameful display of hypocrisy decorated in almost comic proportions. Unfortunately, that's when we all hear cries from the peanut gallery to have them licensed.

True citizens are not Black, Asian, Latino, immigrant, Native American, gay, old, overweight, poor, Muslim, Jewish, Northern, Eastern, Western, Catholic, French speaking, Spanish speaking, Bush questioning, anti-war, pro-peace, diplomatic, pro independent press, intelligent, remorseful, sympathetic, non-violent, tolerant or thinking. We react... violently. Oh, yeah and we let loose with both barrels in the direction that our fearless, all-hatted, no-cattled, twang-laden master of the malapropism tells us to. Get behind him, Boys. Just as any true Amur-i-can should.

Despite a non-stop onslaught of lies, at a pace and substance never before shoveled at us by a sitting president, the masses remain stuck like flies to flypaper to the backside of a man, most unqualified ever, to be the top-dog for all of so-called western civilization. Well maybe, or maybe not, depending on how warped your point of view is. What is that cartoon of a man, George W. Bush, but a sick reminder that, as a country we have some serious mental issues to deal with. We're addicted to this sickness, this fantasy land of flag waving lies and turban decorated boogie men lurking behind grandma's closet door with a baseball bat, ready to take her life savings hidden in the mattress. It's not to say that the entire country is off its rocker. All one has to do is witness the largest outpourings of righteous outrage against the acts and policies of madmen and the atrocities of our tow headed sons and daughters that were sent into the bloodied field of battle on a stream of never ending lies and convenient excuses. It's a validation that some of us still have some sense.

At least half the country has bought a clue and not spent the grocery money on the tasty and addictive kool-aid of our Alien Lizard Masters who run rampant through the hallowed halls of government. But what is Bush, but a symptom of our times? The culmination of a generation of empire building, of political polarization, of social arrogance, of cultural disdain, of validation of violence, of disregard of the intelligentsia and of militarization of the populace on all levels. Not all of us has bought into this diseased spiral of logic, but the spin cycle is taking us all down with it.

We're priming ourselves for a collapse of the highest order. We've replaced the pillars of our democracy with a hollow framework of political capital grubbing. Our society has replaced the need to promote the general welfare with the need to promote generals that are ordered to see to the welfare of the spear. Keep it nice and shiny, boys. You never know who we have to stick it to the next time, but stick it you will. Nothing is more important than that spear, we're told. The spear is the end all and be all. Where ever the spear goes, it goes to do no wrong. The pointer of the spear, guided by the all-mighty hand of God himself stands tall and the rubes feel a little tighter in their jeans... that's the swelling of pride by the way. And no dirty, unpatriotic peacenik is going to take it way from them. It's what we live for as a beacon of feedom, right? Brook all sacrifices and lay our children on the altar of war, telling the nay-sayers that they have no right other than to follow their twisted example.

Don't pay attention to that crumbling sound, Lee Greenwood is singing.

Despite the worst of our sad natures coming to bite us all in the ass at this late date, there is an alternative. It's called sanity. At some point, a significant number of people are going to end up facing a brick wall and wonder how they got there after being guided to it by there favorite son, the knuckle-head in chief. I'm not talking about the dyed in the marrow true believers. I'm only talking about the merely misguided. The ones who'll wake up and step slowly away from the kool-aid bowl. Be they in one political party or the other, they have but no other choice but to realize that they've been sold a bill of rancid goods. That's the weakness of Bush, his house is built on lies and has a limited shelf life. The mere fact that he was handed on a silver platter the very staff of incompetent yes men he begged for all but assures his very downfall. When most people realize that they've been had, they start changing their ways.

Although, those who actually opposed him did all they could to stop his mad race to the land of fascism, little do they know that Bush himself will do their job for them. The seeds to Bush's collapse lies in his own stubbornness, or his hubris if you will, as well as his convoluted strategy to engage the support of diametrically opposed camps; the freewheeling ruling business class and the sociologically repressed evangelical proles. Both sides are asking for their piece of the action now and expect to be rewarded for their fealty to the King. Somebody, however, is going to be sorely disappointed.

His plans of conquest will yield bitter fruit, harvested by the bloodied victims, disillusioned returning troops and their outraged mothers. That's where the battles will be fought. Expect lots of blood, people. In all of this melee, the biggest failures will occur. Failures so ugly, that they will do nothing less than tear at the very heart of our society. There will be wars abroad and wars at home over the wars abroad. Now at this point, Bush's very nature to never admit guilt or own up to his responsibilities, the encirclement of his loyal yet unscrupulous followers and the lack of a willingness by a previously co-opted press whoredom whipped into shape by the vociferous power of blogdom will create the formula for his demise.

It's going to be ugly and heads will roll. But in the end, it's going to be ugly enough for those who have stopped drinking the kool-aid to realize their predicament. These few, if grabbed and brought into the side of a viable and organized left will form the margin needed to make the change from current insanity back to some semblance of respectability. It's going the be a hard fall, yet the left needs to figure out how the be a soft cushion. It's a start, and there will be tons of important work to be done afterwards. But without us taking these refugees from insanity close to our collective bosoms and making them our allies, there is no way that we can revert this country from the United States of War back to the United States of America.

The time to prepare is now.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3158779


91 posted on 02/23/2005 1:48:42 PM PST by The Loan Arranger (The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal.)
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To: mariabush

I was thinking that too -- but then I thought about all the great Freepers who are from Arkansas, yet seemingly have managed to avoid the great temptation to bed cousin Ella-Sue or Jimmy-Earl. The theme from "Deliverance" is, however, running through my mind as I type....


92 posted on 02/23/2005 1:49:45 PM PST by TrueKnightGalahad (It is only with the heart that one can see rightly. What is essential is invisible to the eye. A S-E)
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To: Red6

You're dedicated!

Read yesterday where people were dressing up in military uniforms going to the houses of family of soldiers in Iraq and telling them that their loved one has died causing them more grief than anyone should have to endure. I am all for free speech, but this garbage is seditious and these people need to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. People doing it has to be anarchists or rogue nutjobs like these.


93 posted on 02/23/2005 1:52:07 PM PST by deepFR
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To: .cnI redruM
I respectfully disagree. I think they are indeed a hate group. They profess to hate the troops and all they stand for, therefore it only follows---hate group.
94 posted on 02/23/2005 1:56:10 PM PST by ladyinred
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To: TrueKnightGalahad

How about this? We tell all '15' members they have won a contest. Lets give them one way tickets to some obscure third world country. In 20 years, we can revisit them and see what their opinion of the USA is then.


95 posted on 02/23/2005 1:58:18 PM PST by Cate
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To: kcvl

Nope. The creep is a native of Southern New Jersey. The producer is a native New Yorker. I doubt the creep would even understand a movie like Pi.


96 posted on 02/23/2005 2:00:00 PM PST by DelurkingFreeper
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To: mariabush

You've never been to South Jersey, have you? Not places like the shore, or Atlantic City, or the outskirts of Philly. But the real South Jersey. In most places, you can almost hear the banjos playing.


97 posted on 02/23/2005 2:03:34 PM PST by DelurkingFreeper
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To: StarCMC

And because of people like you, your uncle's fears will never be realized...people remained quiet during Viet Nam. I don't see that happening again.

BTW, Hug your uncle for me Star and thank him for his service.


98 posted on 02/23/2005 2:05:13 PM PST by pelikan
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To: DelurkingFreeper

I doubt he would understand a movie like "Piglett's Big Adventure."


99 posted on 02/23/2005 2:06:30 PM PST by GreenOgre
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To: mhking

Scott Vogel, proprietor of this feces stain, seems not to be above a little censorship himself. His guestbook wouldn't accept the following message:

From: Liberal advocate
Address the root cause of the Vogels' anger! Legalize drugs and prostitution!

I also tried to thank him and his sister for helping to re-elect President Bush, but that wouldn't take either.


100 posted on 02/23/2005 2:08:09 PM PST by atomic conspiracy (This message prepared with MS-CBS Word 72 software)
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