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Astronomers find star-less galaxy

Posted on 02/23/2005 1:32:25 PM PST by LibWhacker

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To: Yo-Yo

"Gee, I wish that picture of nothing were a bit clearer..."

If you turn up the infrared and UV controls on one of the new RGB-IR-UV monitors, you may be able to see it. I need to get one of those monitors for myself. Does anyone know if Best Buy carries them yet?


61 posted on 02/23/2005 3:04:28 PM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: Mycroft Holmes
Is this plank long enough?


62 posted on 02/23/2005 3:12:56 PM PST by OSHA (It's called fun. Look it up. You might even want to try it some time.)
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To: chronotrigger

"Before scientists understood how light worked, they came up with a mysterious substance called "ether" to explain it."

Yes. There are a lot of things we didn't used to be able to detect that are easily detected today. X-rays, neutrons, ultraviolet, etc. All you need is the right sensor.

Also, there are a number of things we used to think existed that we now know don't exist. Ether as you say (not the kind that knocks you out), caloric, phlogiston, etc.

Another thing like dark matter is "gravitons", particles supposedly held responsible for gravitational attraction by some physicists. The only problem is we can't find them, either. Hey, maybe they are related.

So, we either need a dark matter sensor or a better explanation than dark matter. The "truth" will eventually come out unless it one of the 'unknowable' basic principles of the universe.


63 posted on 02/23/2005 3:14:26 PM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: LibWhacker

Ahh, yeah.... I see it.

64 posted on 02/23/2005 3:15:05 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: OSHA

"Is this plank long enough?"

OSHA, I am glad you are wearing safety orange on the job but your headgear in positioned incorrectly. I am going to report you to OSHA. Wait, I just did that!


65 posted on 02/23/2005 3:17:36 PM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: Cold Heat
Stuff that theoretically should be there, but isn't. Cuz they cannot see it, so it must be invisible, or dark.

In any other field of science, this would tend to indicate that the theory is wrong.

66 posted on 02/23/2005 3:20:00 PM PST by wyattearp (The best weapon to have in a gunfight is a shotgun - preferably from ambush.)
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To: wyattearp

Well, a theory is a theory. I can't balme them for trying to get a scietific paper printed to feed their egos.....(sarc)


67 posted on 02/23/2005 3:22:26 PM PST by Cold Heat (What are fears but voices awry?Whispering harm where harm is not and deluding the unwary. Wordsworth)
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To: LibWhacker

If I can’t see it, touch/feel it, or smell it, it doesn’t exist.


68 posted on 02/23/2005 3:23:02 PM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Cold Heat
AAAACK!

Forgot to spell ckeck that last........

69 posted on 02/23/2005 3:23:16 PM PST by Cold Heat (What are fears but voices awry?Whispering harm where harm is not and deluding the unwary. Wordsworth)
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To: Right Wing Assault
Hey, maybe they are related

Yup! Gravity waves...etc.

Some sort of mechanism that is the basis for gravitational effects that we do see.

I believe they have proved that objects traveling in space often gain velocity for no apparent reason, and often slow as well.

Therefore some believe there is a repulsion as well as attraction.

Attractors????? chaos theory???

Interesting stuff, but I think is we knew what it really was, we could easily duplicate it and the universe would be like going on vacation.

I have often thought that the answer lies in front of our noses.

70 posted on 02/23/2005 3:30:38 PM PST by Cold Heat (What are fears but voices awry?Whispering harm where harm is not and deluding the unwary. Wordsworth)
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To: wyattearp

"In any other field of science, this would tend to indicate that the theory is wrong."

No, see my post #63. They existence of neutrons was proposed but they couldn't detect them. Eventually, someone figured out how to detect them. See http://onsager.bd.psu.edu/~jircitano/neutron.html
They were the "dark matter" of the day back in the 30s. Just because you can't NOW see or detect something doesn't mean you will NEVER be able to detect it.
Another link:
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/particles/neutrondis.html


71 posted on 02/23/2005 3:37:59 PM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

"If I can’t see it, touch/feel it, or smell it, it doesn’t exist."

That kind of limits a person. Of course my opinion doesn't matter since I don't exist.


72 posted on 02/23/2005 3:40:29 PM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: theDentist

"Have they considered a Black Hole which has already consumed all that was within it's gravitational pull?"

No, it's probably not that. They know where Hillary is at all times. ;)



73 posted on 02/23/2005 3:40:34 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Cold Heat

"Well, a theory is a theory. I can't balme them for trying to get a scietific paper printed to feed their egos.....(sarc)"

That's what they said about Einstein before he won the Nobel Prize in 1905.

Actually, they are first trying to feed their families. Ego comes after that and it's why a lot of people, including me, do things. Such as post stuff on FR. ;-)


74 posted on 02/23/2005 3:45:26 PM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: LibWhacker

BTTT


75 posted on 02/23/2005 3:46:16 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Right Wing Assault

LOL!!! I also forgot the word “hear.” If everything fails and I also can’t hear it, I take my toys and go home.


76 posted on 02/23/2005 3:46:56 PM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

LOL !


77 posted on 02/23/2005 3:47:12 PM PST by theDentist (The Dems are putting all their eggs in one basket-case: Howard "Belltower" Dean.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

" "Have they considered a Black Hole which has already consumed all that was within it's gravitational pull?"

No, it's probably not that. They know where Hillary is at all times. ;) "

Actually, I think Hillary is a different kind of HOLE.


78 posted on 02/23/2005 3:48:00 PM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: LibWhacker

Maybe this object is a protogalaxy or an eddy in the backwaters of the Virgo group of galaxies -- or both.


79 posted on 02/23/2005 4:01:06 PM PST by ngc6656
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To: Right Wing Assault
Right Wing Assault said: "That's what they said about Einstein before he won the Nobel Prize in 1905. "

Einstein won the Nobel in 1921 for his 1905 work on the photoelectric effect.

80 posted on 02/23/2005 4:38:53 PM PST by William Tell
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