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VIking ship cracking up (Norway)
Aftenposten ^ | February 25, 2005 | tr. Nina Berglund

Posted on 02/25/2005 12:31:47 PM PST by franksolich

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To: expatpat

It appears the good Vikings, who brought civilization, were from Norway, and the bad Vikings, who brought burning and pillaging, were from Sweden.


61 posted on 02/25/2005 2:17:47 PM PST by franksolich (ski jumping flop)
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To: franksolich
On the Aftenposten web-site (the red link above), there is also news about the possible demise of the famous luxury passenger ship, the Norway.

The Norway started life as the France as a transatlantic Liner in 1961 (just as the Jet Age took off.) The French never could make a franc off her and sold her to a Norwegian cruise line who renamed her the Norway.

It's one of the last steam-powered ships and one of her boilers blew in Miami a few years ago, and replacing it is economically unfeasible.

63 posted on 02/25/2005 2:18:03 PM PST by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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To: lizol

It is called "stealth marketing," sir; selling something by unusual means.

In this instance, I add the word "Poland" to the keywords, because it immediately brings over to here many members of the Eastern European ping list....and hence more are enlightened about Norway.

An excellent ping list, sir, the Eastern European ping list, and I enthusiastically recommend it to others--one notices that many members of the Norway ping list visit it too.

Which helps everybody, all around.


65 posted on 02/25/2005 2:22:14 PM PST by franksolich (look for the "made in Norway" label on the can of fish)
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To: expatpat

This year, Norway is celebrating its 100th anniversary of independence from its older cousins, the Swedes, who had dominated it since 1815.

I believe even the U.S. Post Office is issuing a special commemorative stamp to mark the event.

I am still ploughing through biographies--real books, not internet sites--of kings of Norway (kindly suggested by Eurotwit, and his advice enthusiastically heeded), but it appears that from circa 1340 until 1815, Norway had been owned by their elder brothers, the Danes.

Why all this happened, well, I am not back that far yet.


67 posted on 02/25/2005 2:27:49 PM PST by franksolich (look for the "made in Norway" label on the can of fish)
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To: Ditto

The "Norway" was more of a cruise ship than an ocean liner, right? Correct, or not?

I have seen advertisements for the "Norway" cruises since--well, since God was a boy, or something.

Is there any talk in Norway, of preserving this wonderful historic artifact, just like the Viking ship?


68 posted on 02/25/2005 2:30:31 PM PST by franksolich (look for the "made in Norway" label on the can of fish)
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To: franksolich
She began life as The S/S France

Her's a brief history from the web.

She was France's last "ship of state" and the service and style on board matched her elegant profile. For most of the year she crossed from LeHavre to New York via Southampton and occasionally she was sent on a cruise, usually to an exotic destination. Meals on board were some of the finest anywhere (on land or at sea) and the First Class restaurant was called "the best French restaurant in the world" by more than one food critic. Unfortunately, with the advent of air travel and increased fuel costs, she became increasingly more expensive to operate and when government subsidies were halted, she was withdrawn from service in 1974. She was the subject of many unrealized projects, until 1979 when she was purchased by Norwegian Caribbean Lines, and converted into the worlds largest cruise ship. Two of her four propellers were removed and she underwent extensive renovations until she emerged significantly heavier as the S.S. Norway in 1980.

Her boiler blew up killing some crew members a few years ago. It's in a shipyard in Germany right now.

69 posted on 02/25/2005 2:53:57 PM PST by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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To: franksolich
One recalls a few years the English excavated a boat from the reign of Henry VIII, where it had laid in the bottom of the water for hundreds of years, and it was still reasonably intact.

This boat's over twice as old as Henry's.

70 posted on 02/25/2005 3:11:24 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: franksolich

If you want an active thread, post some pictures of the Swedish bikini team wearing guns. They're out there.


71 posted on 02/25/2005 3:13:24 PM PST by Disambiguator
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To: franksolich
But why are you so fascinated with Norway?
. I looked at your profile and you don't have any Norwegian origins (or maybe I missed something).

I used to know a guy from Norway. It was about 17-18 years ago (or a bit more). He was of Polish origins, and he came to Poland with his parents to stay here for a year or something.

They rented a house located near the place where I live, so we were neighbours. Nice guy, but we lost contact after he went back to Norway. He lived somewhere near Halden

I met another one in Kosovo, where we both monitored election in 2001. He was a former Norwegian Army officer (serving in Kosovo too) but at that time when we met each other he was already a civilian, working for the Norwegian government.
Nice guy too, but a little bit to presumptuous. Maybe because he graduated from the Oxford university? He spoke English with very "British", Oxonian accent.
72 posted on 02/25/2005 3:15:07 PM PST by lizol
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To: Disambiguator

That happens on the Norway ping list, sir.

Usually when the authentic Norwegians actually in Norway are "active" in Free Republic (yes, there are some).

But this being late Friday afternoon (5:30 p.m. Nebraska time, 11:30 p.m. Norway time), the Norwegians are out getting aquavitaed, and not logged on to Free Republic.


73 posted on 02/25/2005 3:16:38 PM PST by franksolich (look for the "made in Norway" label on the can of fish)
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To: franksolich

Well..........ok...........Firewood?


74 posted on 02/25/2005 3:17:00 PM PST by Cold Heat (What are fears but voices awry?Whispering harm where harm is not and deluding the unwary. Wordsworth)
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To: franksolich

I realize that. But there seemed to be a lot of talk about Swedes, so I thought I would mix it up a bit. Remember, it IS Friday afternoon. ;^)


75 posted on 02/25/2005 3:20:30 PM PST by Disambiguator
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To: franksolich
Very cool.

Has anyone made a Viking long ship and tried to sail from Greenland to Newfoundland?

76 posted on 02/25/2005 3:24:32 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (No one knows the shape of the future, or where it will take us. We know only that is paved in pain)
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To: Palladin

"Graffiti from the Viking age?

UFFDA!"

______

How bout dem Vikings! you betcha.


77 posted on 02/25/2005 3:25:10 PM PST by TheLawyerFormerlyKnownAsAl
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To: lizol

It is the "salesman," the promoter, the huckster, the snake-oil vendor, the public-relations manipulator, the advertising man, that exists within myself, sir.

If I had my choice, because I am more familiar with the subject, naturally I would have started with an Eastern European ping list, but our mutual good friend in Poland already had one, and I did not wish to invade his territory--especially since he can do a much better job with explaining Eastern Europe, than I can.

That Eastern European ping list is excellent; no one here in America could possibly do it any better.

When someone from Norway on January 28 complained that Free Republic is "anti-Norway," it was as if a Gift from God, sir, dropping on to my lap--I had a "cause," I had something to promote, to sell.

I have a very boring job, sir (I prepare income-tax returns), and because as you already know from my "profile" here on Free Republic, common ordinary everyday things such as social conversation, chatting on the telephone, listening to the radio or music, watching television or movies, are impossible for me, and so I have all these empty hours in life.

I never thought about Norway, I never lost any sleep over Norway, I never paid any attention to Norway, sir, until January 28--and now I think about Norway at least one hour a day, which fills up an empty hour.


78 posted on 02/25/2005 3:26:12 PM PST by franksolich (look for the "made in Norway" label on the can of fish)
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To: franksolich

I think most of the vikings ships recovered were dug out of mud. I bring every foreign visitor to Norway to the Viking ship museum. If you come to Oslo, I'll give you a guided tour.

I have to tell you though that I am all aquited up at the moment, but as they say...in vino veritas....

You have the best ping list of all freerepublic.

Skål :-)


79 posted on 02/25/2005 4:10:06 PM PST by Eurotwit
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To: Eurotwit

I hope you're having a good time; it's not even dark here yet in Nebraska, the Norway of America.

As soon as I find the appropriate place, I'm writing to the Norwegian border guards, to compliment them on the fine job they are doing, and to say I wish our own were half as competent, &c., &c., &c.

But members of the Norway ping list will get a copy, as usual, via e-mail.

Also, I have to contact our man in Oslo.


80 posted on 02/25/2005 4:14:41 PM PST by franksolich (look for the "made in Norway" label on the can of fish)
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