[KidGlock]

You mean he can't present a Sam's Club ID or library card for identification?

[George from New England]

bump

[corkoman]

well, I am glad SOMEBODY is pressing the issue for an up-or-down vote for whether we needs to show our papers for travel within the US.

[Leatherneck_MT]

I happen to agree with him.

From the looks of things on the article, it's the ONLY thing I agree with him on, but on this one, he is spot on.

[yer gonna put yer eye out]

Another sterling example of a seemingly intelligent person so caught up in himself, and his own rights, he has no room in his mind or heart to consider the safety of anyone else.

To people like this life is all about their PERSONAL rights....forget everyone else's rights.

The "educated-beyond-their-own-intelligence" crowd will make a national hero out of this short-sighted, selfish slug.

[G.Mason]

Another Salmon swimming up stream to spawn.

While he was swimming in the Pacific, those rotten SOB's built a damn dam.

[Tench_Coxe]

Counting posts till the first one that says something akin to, " we're at war. Therefore, licking the boots of my master is fun. "

[Spktyr]

Turns out the guy doesn't drive.

So, basically, he's saying he's trapped in his home area because he's too stupid to get a car and a license for it (which does not require a government ID to get). Nice.

I agree with him about presenting ID to fly, but I understand the logic behind that, especially after 9/11. That said, flying is *not* a right, and there are many other means of transport across the country that do not require an ID. Buses, trains, private car, etc., etc.

[Copernicus]

George Orwell said it would happen and it has.

It will get really interesting when we enter Kafka territory. Or perhaps we are already there too.

Best regards,

[evolved_rage]

What a waste. Fighting a fly-speck minor issue when only about 5 or 6 CCWs are issued in SF county in any given year. He worries about tyrrany, what about his right to protect himself from being kidnapped or robbed by criminals or the gubmint. Typical 'Rat.

[reg45]

Mr. Gilmore is free to travel anywhere in the country, the only restriction is on air travel. He can travel by bus, train, automobile or even on foot. If he wants to go to Hawaii, he can always rent a rowboat.

[palmer]

The elegance of Gilmore's thinking is that knowing someone's ID does not prevent the person from committing a terrorist act. The 9/11 hijackers had driver's licenses. Knowing someone's identity, as Gilmore argues it, adds less to a security than it takes away from a traveler's protection from authority that might oppress simply because it can.

That's not very elegant, but I agree with the first part, requiring ID's adds nothing to security. As Schneier says, if the government has a list of bad guys, why are they waiting for them to show up at the airport?

[Disambiguator]

"Anywhere is walking distance, if you have the time."

Steven Wright

[fight_truth_decay]

I have always shown my drivers license when checking in, even before 9-11. If he wants to make an issue out of the identification process, then go to the top.. not hold me up in line because he wants to make a personal stance, which isn't going to result in any new ruling at the entry level of employee he is harassing. There are baggage issues as well. What's to prove he didn't steal the ticket? Your ticket, perhaps! This guy likes control. He can't set up a meeting with the "powers that be"..thought he had influence (chuckles).

What does being a millionaire have to do with any part of this story or what he ate for breakfast of what books he read in school?

This costs us all time and money. Let him take the bus or the train. I am glad he is not flying!

The terrorists 9-11 took a flight from Portland, Maine to Boston, Mass.

[meatloaf]

My suggestion is that he get a horse and convert to the Amish religion. Problem solved.

[frossca]

This guys a freakin' millionaire. He could charter a flight or hire a pilot. Oh, that's right, if he did that, he wouldn't be able to get his self-important mug in the paper: "Look at what a rabble-rouser I am."

Typical modern narcissist.

[evolved_rage]

According to Southwest.com, its part of their boarding policy. If he doesn't like it, he can go go elsewhere, he didn't have to buy their ticket.

* Read all information at the bottom of your Boarding Pass carefully:
o This Boarding Pass will be retained by Southwest Airlines at the departure gate.
o Any change made to this reservation by you or any other person will void this boarding pass.
o In order to print a valid Boarding Pass, your Internet Browser must be set up to print images. A barcode should appear on the left side of the printed document.
o Faxed copies of Boarding Passes will not be accepted and must be reprinted prior to boarding the aircraft.
o If you are not checking luggage, you may proceed directly to the Security Checkpoint with this Boarding Pass.
o This Boarding Pass is valid only for the Passenger listed above.
o Government-issued identification is required.
o The TSA strictly enforces a limit of one carryon item, plus one smaller personal item.
o Customer Checkin Requirement: Customers who are not present and available for boarding at the departure gate at least ten (10) minutes before scheduled departure time will have their reserved space cancelled and will not be eligible for denied boarding compensation.
o View Southwest Airlines' Contract of Carriage.

[Big Okie]

I remember getting on airplanes, for in country flights, by presenting just my ticket. Now, air travel requires us to go well beyond presenting valid ID. We must strip half naked and stand around in our socks while highly skilled(?) federal employees confiscate our nail clippers and rulers to ensure we're safe enough to board a pig-hauler with wings. My family and I have traveled by air several times each year since 2001... Each time without fail, my son, at 5, 6, or 8 years old has been pulled aside with me for extra scrutiny with the probes and sniffers. He's getting a complex. We're both blonde and dress like people used to dress; pants that fit, shirts (with collars) tucked in, shoes tied, no hats. Is it my foot long beard and diaper wrapped around my head? Nope, that guy is waved through ahead of me and on to his gate while I stand next to a colleague of Mother Terresa's getting frisked and watching my bag being disassembled. Oops! I forgot to remove my disposable razor which falls under the same class of weaponry as a two foot machete. On board we're served meals(?) with table ware that Fischer-Price or Playschool would develop so we aren't compelled to storm the cabin or assault any air stewardesses. Remember real flatware to cut your rubber chicken or spread the rock hard butter on the rock hard roll, and a fork that could maintain all it's tines when it pierced an over cooked carrot? Ah, those were the days.

[TN4Liberty]

Wow, at this rate they may soon make you show an ID to cash a check. What is the world coming to?

[Hand em their arse]

"In post 9/11 America, asking "Why?" when someone from an airline asks for identification can start some interesting arguments...."


That tends to say it all for me!! There are some idiots in this world that there SOLE existence is to create arguements and test the limits. So good for him, now he doesn't go anywhere. CONGTRATULATIONS JOHN!!!! What a great point you've made, you've CHANGED THE WORLD!!WHHOOHOO!!!

And frankly, if you look at the picture of him in the article the caption could very convincingly read "Hi, I'm your friendly neighborhood dumbfu*k!!

What a tool!!!