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IRS Announces 2005 'Dirty Dozen' Tax Schemes. Taxpayers Warned Not To Fall For False Promises
Denver 7 ABC News ^ | Feb. 28, 2005 | Denver ABC News

Posted on 02/28/2005 9:58:38 PM PST by FairOpinion

The Internal Revenue Service unveiled its annual listing of tax scams Monday that it labeled the "Dirty Dozen."

The 2004 list includes several new tricks that either manipulate laws governing charitable groups, abuse credit counseling services, or rely on refuted arguments to claim tax exemptions, according to the IRS.

"The Dirty Dozen is a reminder that tax scams can take many forms," said Mark W. Everson, IRS commissioner. "Don't be fooled by false promises peddled by scam artists. They'll take your money and leave you with a hefty tax bill."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: incometaxes; irs; taxes; taxhonesty; taxschemes
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To: FairOpinion

Frivolous Arguments: According to the IRS, promoters have been known to make the following outlandish claims: that the 16th Amendment concerning congressional power to lay and collect income taxes was never ratified; that wages are not income; that filing a return and paying taxes are merely voluntary; and that being required to file Form 1040 violates the Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination or the Fourth Amendment right to privacy.

"Don't believe these or other similar claims," said Everson. "Such arguments have been thrown out of court."


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That's real simple IRS Federal Mafia. Show up the citizens' Constitutional Right for a Redress of Grievances.

But we know why they don't...


21 posted on 03/01/2005 8:48:15 AM PST by ApesForEvolution (I just took a Muhammad and wiped my Jihadist with Mein Koran...come and get me nutbags.)
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To: ancient_geezer

GO FAIRTAX! END THE FRAUD! ABOLISH THE IRS/IRC! http://www.FairTax.org


22 posted on 03/01/2005 8:49:11 AM PST by ApesForEvolution (I just took a Muhammad and wiped my Jihadist with Mein Koran...come and get me nutbags.)
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To: FairOpinion

The feds were never supposed to tax citizens directly.


23 posted on 03/01/2005 8:50:17 AM PST by ctdonath2
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To: Mears

bump


24 posted on 03/01/2005 8:51:18 AM PST by Mears ("Call me irresponsible".)
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To: mdcen

Hate to burst your bubble, but a "fair tax" or "flat tax" would ruin the engine that keeps the US economy churning. And that is the tax deduction for interest and taxes on your home.

You pay for your home in after tax dollars under the current system my freind. Under the NRST you pay for your home out of untaxed dollars.

What would be that advantage of home ownership if you did not have an opportunity to deduct these items from your income???

So the American dream cannot be had without a heavily progessive/graduated income tax?

Hmm, may be your dream, certainly not mine:

Manifesto of the Communist Party, by Karl Marx and Frederick Engels, published in 1848. We should never forget nor overlook the philosophical underpinnings of the current income tax:

"The proletariat will use its political supremacy to wrest, by degree, all capital from the bourgeoisie, to centralize all instruments of production in the hands of the state ... . Of course, in the beginning, this cannot be effected except by means of despotic inroads on the rights of property ... . These measures will, of course, be different in different countries. Nevertheless, in most advanced countries, the following will be pretty generally applicable.

1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.
2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.
4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
5. Centralization of credit in the banks of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.
6. Centralization of the means of communication and transport in he hands of the state.
7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state; the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
8. Equal obligation of all to work. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of all the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the populace over the country.
10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc. "

 

I'll answer. None! And the American dream would be lost

I would certainly hope so!!!

For income is not taxed under an retail sales tax, invest it, save it, buy an older home no NRST.

All savings and investment earn tax free, no tax is ever collected until one purchases new products or services for personal use or consumption.

How does that destroy the real Amercan dream? Of individual liberty, pursuit of happiness, embodied in ownership and the rights of property?

25 posted on 03/01/2005 8:53:43 AM PST by ancient_geezer (Don't reform it, Replace it!!)
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To: mdcen

So, $0 in deductions on 0% income tax will be bad how?


26 posted on 03/01/2005 8:54:46 AM PST by CSM ("I just started shooting," said Gloria Doster, 56. "I was trying to blow his brains out ....")
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To: Always Right

What states have 20% sales tax?


27 posted on 03/01/2005 8:56:12 AM PST by CSM ("I just started shooting," said Gloria Doster, 56. "I was trying to blow his brains out ....")
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To: Principled
?

28 posted on 03/01/2005 8:58:55 AM PST by lewislynn (`)
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To: mdcen; ancient_geezer
Hate to burst your bubble, but a "fair tax" or "flat tax" would ruin the engine that keeps the US economy churning. And that is the tax deduction for interest and taxes on your home. What would be that advantage of home ownership if you did not have an opportunity to deduct these items from your income??? I'll answer. None! And the American dream would be lost.

That's got to be the wildest post I've ever seen on the tax threads.

So, the engine that keeps the US economy churning is the tax exemption on home interest? WHEW!!!

Therefore, there also must have never been an American Dream before the creation of the income tax! DOUBLE WHAMMY WHEW!!!

29 posted on 03/01/2005 9:01:05 AM PST by houeto ("Mr. President , close our borders now!")
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To: mdcen
What would be that advantage of home ownership if you did not have an opportunity to deduct these items from your income???

#1 advantage: not needing to constantly pay for your residence. Monthly payments suck.

Methinks mortgage interest deductions are one of the biggest scams ever. The "supply and demand" law holds: anything that makes it easier to pay a price leads to that price increasing. The allure of tax-deductable interest payments means housing prices will increase to fill the gap.

Thanks to various mortgage factors (delayed payment, deductions, etc.), people who wouldn't pay more than $100,000 for a house get conned into paying over $300,000 for the same house.

30 posted on 03/01/2005 9:04:29 AM PST by ctdonath2
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To: mdcen

That's a sheeple response -- you're being sarcastic, right?


31 posted on 03/01/2005 9:05:09 AM PST by Zon (Honesty outlives the lie, spin and deception -- It always has -- It always will.)
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To: CSM

Some counties in NY are approaching 10% sales tax (and suffer among the highest income tax in the country).

Canada has a sales tax (obfuscated into "PST" and "GST") exceeding 15%.

Dunno about 20%, but some places are heading that way.


32 posted on 03/01/2005 9:07:18 AM PST by ctdonath2
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To: ctdonath2

The feds were never supposed to tax citizens directly.

If you are operating under that kind of assumption, I would suggest your financial health not to mentiona your future freedom to roam about is in dire jeopardy.

I think you had better take a closer look at the history of why we have the Constitution, instead of the Articles of Confederation the original 13 states and their Continental Congress operated under.

A clue from the the Federalist/anti-Federalist debate of the time as well as the earliest tax decisions of the USSC:

Federalist #21:

Federalist #34:

Federalist #39:

Anti-Federalist Papers #3 NEW CONSTITUTION CREATES A NATIONAL GOVERNMENT;

There are but two modes by which men are connected in society, the one which operates on individuals, this always has been, and ought still to be called, national government; the other which binds States and governments together (not corporations, for there is no considerable nation on earth, despotic, monarchical, or republican, that does not contain many subordinate corporations with various constitutions) this last has heretofore been denominated a league or confederacy. The term federalists is therefore improperly applied to themselves, by the friends and supporters of the proposed constitution.

Federalist #45:


First Supreme Court Tax Case:

Hylton v. United States(1796), 3 U.S. 171

  • "A general power is given to Congress, to lay and collect taxes, of every kind or nature, without any restraint, except only on exports; but two rules are prescribed for their government, namely, uniformity and apportionment: Three kinds of taxes, to wit, duties, imposts, and excises by the first rule, and capitation, or other direct taxes, by the second rule. "
  • "the present Constitution was particularly intended to affect individuals, and not states, except in particular cases specified: And this is the leading distinction between the articles of Confederation and the present Constitution."
  • "Uniformity is an instant operation on individuals, without the intervention of assessments, or any regard to states,"
  • "[T]he DIRECT TAXES contemplated by the Constitution, are only two, to wit, A CAPITATION OR POLL TAX, simply, without regard to property, profession, or any other circumstance; and a tax on LAND."

  • 33 posted on 03/01/2005 9:07:35 AM PST by ancient_geezer (Don't reform it, Replace it!!)
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    To: houeto
    That's got to be the wildest post I've ever seen on the tax threads.

    It's amazing how Americans have been conditioned to give thanks to the almighty government for the mortgage deduction forgetting that the tax that allows for it is a drag on economic wealth.

    34 posted on 03/01/2005 9:08:32 AM PST by groanup (http://www.fairtax.org)
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    To: mdcen
    What would be that advantage of home ownership if you did not have an opportunity to deduct these items from your income??? I'll answer. None! And the American dream would be lost.

    A lot of people in the 19th Century and 20th OWNED their homes and did not get deductions. How did that kill the american dream ?

    35 posted on 03/01/2005 9:11:34 AM PST by Centurion2000 (Nations do not survive by setting examples for others. Nations survive by making examples of others)
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    To: ctdonath2; mdcen

    Thanks to various mortgage factors (delayed payment, deductions, etc.), people who wouldn't pay more than $100,000 for a house get conned into paying over $300,000 for the same house.

    How very true:

    Tax-a-phrenic: Paying $4 interest to a banker to avoid paying $1 tax to the IRS, so the banker can pay the IRS a $1 for you.


    36 posted on 03/01/2005 9:14:26 AM PST by ancient_geezer (Don't reform it, Replace it!!)
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    To: Always Right
    And then tracking all these mixed uses quickly becomes a nightmare, not much different than today.

    Tracking these mixed uses will be tough- just like it is today.

    But not as tough, nor as scary!

    No individuals collect or remit tax. Only business.
    No individuals get audited. Only business.
    The number of filers is reduced by a LOT... there will be far, far fewer places to track.

    Wanna try to cheat? Go ahead- but it would be like cheating today on claiming business expenses...but since there will be so many less filers to track, it will be easier to get caught.

    So it will be easier to track this under an nrst (far fewer filers) than it is under our income tax.

    37 posted on 03/01/2005 9:18:01 AM PST by Principled
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    To: GeronL

    Nice.
    Wonder what ole Ira is up to these days...


    38 posted on 03/01/2005 9:22:03 AM PST by dyed_in_the_wool ("Man's character is his destiny" - Heracleitus)
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    To: kevkrom
    Under a sales tax model, the interest and principal would be paid with pre-tax dollars.

    From AFFT

    Consumption Is Taxed Once Under Both an Income Tax and a Sales Tax

    • Under the current federal income tax system, as well as under the FairTax, consumption purchases must be made from after-tax dollars. Therefore, the primary difference between a sales tax and an income tax is not the way they impact consumption, but rather how they impact savings. The income tax double or triple taxes savings, while the sales tax does not tax savings until consumed.

    Both interest and new home purchases would be subject to your sales tax. You can't make the purchase or pay the interest without paying the tax so they are paid with after tax dollars.

    39 posted on 03/01/2005 9:23:10 AM PST by lewislynn (`)
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    To: mdcen

    I would still want a big back yard.


    40 posted on 03/01/2005 9:28:57 AM PST by rabidralph (Mean people suck...the life from the unborn.)
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