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To: pbrown
Let me try and explain my outlook. First, stating that I very much think Terri should be given over to her parents for the reasons I posted above, and outline below in my last paragraph.

I watched my brother who was 35 pass away from cancer. He had had a feeding tube, and it decayed inside his body and he was not getting nourishment. He had gone in and out of consciousness for a while. He had asked his wife to keep him at home, with his family, so he could die there. It was an extremely difficult time for her; the children (3) were age 2,5, and 10. But she did it. On Dec 11th he asked her to call the family to visit on the 16th. It was eerie. We wondered why he picked that date. We all lived very far away, but we all came. I remember leaning over and asking him if he was hungry. He did not respond. We ribbed his lips with a lotion, and swabbed his mouth with lemon sticks. He made no reaction. I told him I loved him, and and stroked his hand. He did not feel me do it, but then I whispered in his ear hoping somehow the message reached him. He was not in a "coma" per se. But, for the most part, everything had shut down. He could not see, he could not speak, and he had lost control of all bodily functions. Nothing responded. And, he could not even feel any sensation or pain anymore. You could prick him with a pin and he would not even move. He passed on the morning of the 17th at 11:00 a.m. just after everyone had been in to see him. He knew.

The doctors explained that he felt no pain, and no hunger because all his nerves and senses had stopped functioning long beforehand. It is not like starving someone who has all of their senses, or like an animal out in the woods who is without food. My brother had already lost all ability to “feel” things as a human feels them.

As I understand it, Terri’s brain stem has been destroyed; hence she would have the same “non-feeling” about being left without food.

Now I know they say Terri has some sensations, but I do believe that for the most part she is already dying slowly, and as that continues, so will any remaining feelings. I do not think, and as many doctors have said, that she will feel pain as you and I do.

Thus, I do not hold to the “starvation” aspect. Mine reason for wanting her given to her parents is of a different belief: That is that no one should be left to die alone when there are people who love them and can be with them. If, by the miraculous chance Terri can re-gain some aspect of her former “self” that would be wonderful. Improving her quality of life, is certainly to be considered and worth any effort. But that can only happen if she is given over to her parents, whom I am sure, desire to do that. Otherwise, if her life is not to improve, she should be coddled in their loving arms when she goes to meet her Maker. Michael is being totally selfish in not giving her that final comfort.

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1,629 posted on 03/18/2005 11:09:04 AM PST by CitizenM (An excuse is worse and more terrible than a lie, for an excuse is a lie guarded. Pope John Paul II)
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To: CitizenM

Her nurses have said they have fed her jello. She isn't dying. She just can't feed herself. Totally different.


1,640 posted on 03/18/2005 11:11:36 AM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: CitizenM

Why do you keep wanting to see her die?


1,645 posted on 03/18/2005 11:13:08 AM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: CitizenM

Wrong info.

FYI -- Terri receives pain meds for menstrual pain. She is noted in nurses' notes as having pain at that time.

She is NOT terminal. Hello?


1,649 posted on 03/18/2005 11:14:33 AM PST by cyn
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To: CitizenM

I'm sorry about your brother, but this isn't about you. It's about Terri. She is NOT dying. There are many, many threads over several years here at FR which will give you all the facts. You need to do some research before you post things that aren't relevant.


1,656 posted on 03/18/2005 11:16:13 AM PST by nanetteclaret (The LORD is known by his justice; the wicked are ensnared by the work of their hands. Psalm 9:16)
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To: CitizenM
As I understand it, Terri’s brain stem has been destroyed;

Then you misunderstand. If her brain stem was destroyed, she'd not breath on her own. Nor would her heart beat on it's own.

Ronald Cranford stated she has no cortex and he is a national assisted suicide doctor advocate. He's also the ONLY doctor who made the ridiculous statement. He is a professional advocate that testifies for euthanasia everytime.

1,664 posted on 03/18/2005 11:18:38 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Life support. canned, frozen or fresh, it's good for you!)
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To: CitizenM
Wrong assumption here!!!!! .. Terri is cognizant and conscious, which makes her a completely different case than the sad case of your brother. When a person is terminal, the body naturally rejects food, the patient is in a different zone and does not experience pain of withdrawal of food and water .. their major systems have started to shut down. THIS IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN TERRI, WHO HAS TO HAVE PAIN MEDS FOR HER MONTHLY MENSTRUAL CRAMPS BECAUSE SHE FEELS -- SHE FEELS PAIN - SHE WILL SUFFER UNMERCIFALLY!!!
1,788 posted on 03/18/2005 12:09:51 PM PST by STARWISE (PRAYER IS MIRACULOUS -- GOD IS LOVE -- PRAY PRAY PRAY FOR TERRI SCHIAVO!)
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