Posted on 03/24/2005 7:52:05 AM PST by mikemikemikecubed
Edited on 03/24/2005 5:24:25 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
WACO, Texas -- President Bush yesterday said he opposes a civilian project to monitor illegal aliens crossing the border, characterizing them as "vigilantes." He said he would pressure Congress to further loosen immigration law. More than 1,000 people -- including 30 pilots and their private planes -- have volunteered for the Minuteman Project, beginning next month along the Arizona-Mexico border. Civilians will monitor the movement of illegal aliens for the month of April and report them to the Border Patrol. Mr. Bush said after yesterday's continental summit, with Mexican President Vicente Fox and Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin at Baylor University, that he finds such actions unacceptable. "I'm against vigilantes in the United States of America," Mr. Bush said at a joint press conference. "I'm for enforcing the law in a rational way." The Minuteman Project was born out of a long-held perception among many residents that more Border Patrol agents are needed to handle the flow of illegal immigrants. Mr. Bush was criticized by both Republicans and Democrats earlier this month for failing to add 2,000 agents to the Border Patrol, as set out in the intelligence overhaul legislation he signed in December. The president's 2006 budget allows enough money to add only 210 agents for the U.S. borders with Canada and Mexico. Mr. Bush said he will "continue to push for reasonable, common-sense immigration policy." He has proposed legislation to grant guest-worker status to millions of illegal aliens already in the United States. The legislation has attracted scant support in Congress, where it is widely regarded as another amnesty that will encourage even more illegal immigration.
at least 75% of taxpaying citizens want our immigration laws enforced.
You know something? We're going to get attacked inside the CONUS. It will be found that the Rags came over the Southern frontier during a period in which we hadn't fully funded the ten thousand additional border agents we had promised Homeland Security. Not funding those border agents is stupid. Bush's support will drop like a rock. And he will deserve it.
Be Seeing You,
Chris
PC politics... illegaln immigrant=undocumented immigrant and all the doublespeak that goes along with it?
Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!
Excuse me, two thousand agents. Be Seeing You,
Chris
"President Bush yesterday said he opposes a civilian project to monitor illegal aliens crossing the border, characterizing them as "vigilantes."
Suppose I have a problem with trespassers on my property, I call the police and they do nothing.
Am I now a "vigilante" because I hire a private guard service?
The election is over, the "Latino" vote issue was unfounded. There is something more profound here than just illegals crossing the border.
Hillary is already positioning on this one. Her and drunk Ted are already releasing press statements. She knows full well that Bush's idiotic stance on immigration will undermine the GOP base. They won't vote for Hillary, but they will stay home in the upcoming election cycles.
Choosing not to participate in an obvious voting farce that could only result in losing one's liberty, seems extremely rational to me.
You have a good point - unfortunatley what would be the principles behind a party that could attract both democrats and republicans??? A moderate party that stands for nothing - pretty much what we have now. What we need is to start drawing conservatives to the Conservative party - this party actually believes and acts on the party principles.
I will try.
1. Bush had lots of good experiences with Mexicans coming into Texas. They stayed in the southern half of the state and took up a lot of farming and gardening jobs. they rarely formed gangs. So he does not have a negative impression. If they could be harnessed as a work force and source of low wage labor, without bankrupting welfare and education and medical care, Bush believes it would be a workable solution, hence his foreign worker plan. BTW most businesses south of Asn Antonio are bilingual as proof that the Texas situation is not harmful.
2. Bush is proping up social security with immigrants he believes will grow into good citizens. (see number 1). Since the US people are practicing a maintenance level of child bearing, we are open to more immigrants. By taking Mexicans, we are not opening ourselves up to Muslim immigrants as is happening in Europe. Of course Bush believes that in a few generations these Americans of Mexican descent will vote for Republicans even if they vote for Democrats first.
3.Bush (like the intellectuals on the left) sees a future where borders will become open. This could happen if Mexico voted to join the US as additional states, but likely in the far distant future the North and South American continents will become a new world open trade zone. Bush believes this would solve problems and since it is inevitable we can't stand in its way. By being open to it Bush hopes to avoid the rest of the left's future plan, that of world wide socialism. This is why he wants open trade as well.
4. Finally, if Bush comes down hard on illegal immigration his political opponents will twist this into a mean spirited Republican thing. (remember the left believes open borders are part of the world socialist movement and thus inevitable). He may be right about this, because when California passed prop 87 to deny school, welfare, and medical care to illegals, it resulted in a backlash that has left California a democratic stronghold to this day. The law was never put into effect as it was blocked by a democrat appointed judge. Perhaps Bush believes that the judiciary needs to be resolved before we take on the issue of illegal immigration.
Bush is bending in the direction of not seeing his immigration reform put into law. This because the US sentiment changed with 9-11 and we see that our institutions of medical and education are suffering because of the influx of immigrants as we speak.
Getting out the word helps quite a bit. But I agree, the Politicians and the MSM will do everything they can to hide it. What they will not be able to hide is what's going to happen on April 1,2005. This is going to be an eye opening event for most of America, and the death of most Politician's careers.
A million people a year isn't much for America which has 300 million people. Canada for example is letting in 250k for a population of 30 million.
I've seen graphs of how it brings down their average age, and brings up the the worker-dependent ratio even much more.
Into the future, like 30 years I dont' think most politicians think that far ahead. I would assume by that point they will be looking at automating away a large portion of the work. ---
Or even better if they can stop abortion, and rebuild the family, plus limit hte benefits going forward.. there wont' be an issue to worry about.
Absolutely.
Both parties are trying to win favor, for "votes."
So they vote too? Why who knew?
The parties think legal immigrants want illegals here.
None that I know of.
Who likes to have someone cut in front of him in ANY line?
If we are not being protected, then it's time to protect ourselves. That is what this country was founded on and that is what we are today. Amen.
What choice did you have? Kerry would have been even worse.
This seems to be a problem with only two solutions on the horizon - Sensenbrenner and Tancredo.
If President Bush continues on with this insanity, Republicans will be losing a lot of voters in the next election.
The Republican Party can change its position to reflect the will of the majority of Americans, or it can lose the Presidency in 2008. This "safety valve for potentiential Mexican Marxist revolutionaries" gambit is cynical and stupid.
Thank you for taking time to answer my well intended question with ample detail. Now I understand.
Your post is excellent! It sums up my feelings exactly.
I left the Republican plantation before the 2004 election and I'm so glad now that I did. I know my Constitution Party candidates didn't win, but at least I have the consolation of knowing I didn't vote for the sniveling little limp-wristed wimpy-boy Republicans in power today who supposedly embrace the rule of law. What a joke! Our Founding Fathers would be horrified if they could know what we have elected to represent us in this country!
"It is not a tough position to do the will of those who elected you - nor to protect this country as is his constitutional DUTY!
Bush has become a tyrant. Plain and simple."
Ya what he should do is properly defend the border.. and get out there informing the people why we need to raise immigration if he believes we need to. Or threaten to veto the crap out of his fellow Republicans pork barrel spending unless they go along with him..
What he is doing now is weak.
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