The link between Schiavo case and Hitler's rise

Olive Tree Ministries ^ | 3-21-2005 | Jan Markell

[monkeywrench]

hitler started the euthanasia movement. It's legitimizing itself here, now.

[MACVSOG68]

A diagnosis of PVS means a doctor did not find any sign of cognition. Three doctors, hired by Michael, didn't find any because they didn't look very hard (looking seriously for signs of congition requires more than an hour exam, but none of Michael's "doctors" spent even that long). Two doctors hired by the Schindlers spent longer describing Terri, and were able to describe specific signs of cognition that they found

Completely irrelevant to the subject of the thread. Unlike you, I am not a medical specialist is this area. So I will defer to your judgement on Terri's PVS diagnosis. The basic issue, though, is the evidence supporting her decision (or not) to not continue with tubal feeding. And it hardly equates to a Nazi purge.

[MACVSOG68]

Do you dispute that ancient Roman law and courts allowed hearsay as evidence, on which an execution could be ordered? Do you dispute that hearsay was used in this trial as the basis for issuing a death warrant?

No. But then, this is not a criminal case, and Terri Schiavo is not the modern day equivalent of Jesus Christ.

[MTOrlando]

No. But then, this is not a criminal case, and Terri Schiavo is not the modern day equivalent of Jesus Christ.

No need to draw religion into it. The Roman courts put a heck of a lot of people to death besides Him.

The only reason it's a civil case rather than a criminal one is that Terri Schiavo committed no crime for which she should be rightfully executed.

[MACVSOG68]

No need to draw religion into it. The Roman courts put a heck of a lot of people to death besides Him

The threads on this this morning have cast Terri Schiavo as either a victim of a 21st century holocaust or the modern equivalent of Christ. My only point is that all of that is BS, and Terri Schiavo's case stands on its own merits.

[expatguy]

You seem disturbed by the comparisms - why?

[MACVSOG68]

You seem disturbed by the comparisms - why?

Any comparison that is intended to place Terri Schiavo on a plateau with some of the most horrendous crimes in history leads me to question either the motivations or the sanity of the poster. Get past post no. 3 and you will probably see more of my logic.

[Hank Rearden]

And I bet everyone who killed during that reign had at some point in their lives eaten carrots too.

Yep, it's the carrots.

And I love carrots. Especially the little, peeled baby carrots at Safeway.

I love eating babies. Carrot babies. Now that's a scary thing to ponder. Keep an eye on me and people like me. Safeway surveillance might prevent the death of more carrot babies.

[k2blader]

*LOL*!!!

[k2blader]

It's not just about this one human being, Terri Shiavo; it's about what's being *done* to her.

If the Nazis had euthanized only one disabled person, would it have been okay?

[MTOrlando]

Any comparison that is intended to place Terri Schiavo on a plateau with some of the most horrendous crimes in history leads me to question either the motivations or the sanity of the poster.

If you were there when the first German court ruled that it was legal to kill the very first mentally handicapped child who's life was taken by the Nazis, would you have realized that you were watching the first of millions of murders masquerading as law?

Or would you have considered it to be merely an isolated incident not worthy of drastic action by opposing elements of the government?

Like it or not, that's what we are witnessing here. Terri Schiavo will not be the last person executed by judicial tyrants if the executive branch does not take action. She will be merely the first.

[MACVSOG68]

hitler started the euthanasia movement. It's legitimizing itself here, now.

Not so, The word itself comes from the Greek, and it has been practiced for thousands of years. Hitler had little imagination and almost everything he did, heinous though it was, was not original in concept or application. But in any case, the issue with Terri is simply one of whether or not she had given her pre-consent. It simply does not belong in the category of genocide.

[Ibredd]

Our Solders who go fight evil around the world and look what they have to come home to.

[monkeywrench]

It is the beginning of a new level of assisted suicide, whether you see it or not. It will be made legal., and this is a giant step in that direction.

[NorCalRepub]

LOL......just got home from the gym and see you have taken to heart our little discussion from last night....throwing yourself in the fire both feet first.....these people don't realize you for the most part are on their side but draw the line at comparisons to Hitler (a DU strategy like you say) and other forms of state sponsered terror.....this crowd just can't see the difference........but I'm proud of you sticking to the facts and trying to beat down the fires of insanity....

[Earthdweller]

Yes just watch our nation fall. There will be a lot more Michael’s coming out of the wood work soon now that it's close to being shown to everyone across the country that it is legal for an estranged husband to decide on his disabled wife's fate....

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[Earthdweller]

Terri Schiavo Before dehydration

God Bless you Terri in your hour of death

Let everyone who said your beautiful smile was fake be haunted by it for the rest of their days.

[MACVSOG68]

It is the beginning of a new level of assisted suicide, whether you see it or not. It will be made legal., and this is a giant step in that direction.

You are probably right, which may explain the motives of some on this thread. The fear of assisted suicide as a legal option may be more of a concern than Terri's plight.

[whenigettime]

"They're here."

Yep - scary.

The education of the masses for the last 40 years is finally seeing fruition. They are getting their goal and the desired end of public education. Remember - Hitler started with educating children to view Jews as infidels and useless in their textbooks.

Watch the pendulum swing to the left, and watch the Soc. Sec. and Medicare problem die (literally).

Hold on tight, I think we're in for a ride and we'll need each other more than ever before.

[whenigettime]

Thanks for posting that beautiful photo of someone that I consider a sister. What a sweetie - and to think she's suffering terribly right now is extremely difficult.

I pray for a peaceful walk into the Savior's arms.