Posted on 03/28/2005 5:12:30 PM PST by Maurice1962
WASHINGTON - She was a girl who laughed easily at her uncle's lame jokes. A girl so naive that she wrote to John Denver, asking him to come sing at her wedding, who went to Disney World for her honeymoon and believed that a good life meant that one day she'd be able to vacation there every year with her kids.
She was a girl who loved animals and worshiped cute television stars, paying homage to heartthrobs Starsky and Hutch by naming two gerbils after them. She daydreamed about working for a veterinarian when she grew up, or maybe just being a dog groomer.
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I support your views on the subject, except that "shacking up" is not what made him wrong. It is fundamentally wrong to starve her. It would also be fundamentally wrong to keep her alive against her will, if her will could be determined.
EXCELLENT Post!
My post was in response to the previous post: What would I want, what would I do in the Schindler's shoes.
Please do not twist my words.
I have read data that does not create the same timeline or suspicions your readings have created for you.
I do not believe Michael Schiavo is perfect, and I believe the Schindlers are extremely controlling. They have manipulated data to the extreme.
Your interpretations of what you've read is different from my interpretations.
Good thing we live in America, isn't it?
Some battles on earth cannot be won.
If I disagreed with the spouse, and he was the legal guardian, I would not make a spectacle of my child's situation.
I would put the matter in God's hands, and let go.
I've had a lot of experience in matters where I have had to let go and let God. It works better.
That was my thought, exactly.
Also, I can't believe Terri Schindler Schiavo is the complete and utter "naife" this article portrays her as. As if being surrounded by stuffed animals is some factor in her happiness! I will confess to having a very small stuffed animal of sentimental value with me when I had a rather traumatic hospital surgery a few years ago, but it's hardly the same thing methinks. And furthermore, the whole idea of all the flowers and piped-in music for her is totally creepy...it's the funeral before she's actually died!!
Sorry for the long post...I had to say something sometime despite the voluminous posts already here, but I mostly wanted to agree with your point about Michael Schiavo. I wonder how he feels about stuffed animals, for example?? And did they ever have any real pets, like a dog? That would seem relevent, except to Judge Greer and those abetting him by rubber-stamping his "rule-of-law" findings, no matter how flawed or compromised his conclusions and rulings may have been, and despite the indisputable fact that anyone in any state of health would die if all food and water were withheld.
Given the circumstances, I can't believe this all is just continuing to go forward. Why isn't there some terrific smart lawyer who could bring the right questions to the the right court/judge (even the Sherriff's department, maybe??) so the real "rule of law" could kick in?? How is it that a circuit judge has more power under Florida law than the governor? or the U.S. House??
/ venting/preaching to the choir
Good job. Thanks.
There must be a million comments here already, but you are absolutely right and I had to say so and agree...it's completely inexplicable to me that anyone's "right to be allowed to die" would include under any circumstances a pro-active and enforced order to die.
When things are out of your control, "letting God" IS the only way. And somehow, when you finally get to that point, the burden is lifted. It's like God's little reminder to us that we ARE NOT in control of His world.
Yes. Terri had two cats. Michael had them put to sleep in the early 90s. In deposition he claimed it was on the advice of her mother!
Admittedly, I find his claim almost impossible to believe, but if it is true, the hypocrisy is striking. It would mean he was willing to listen to Mary Schindler about what to do about the cats, but not about what to do about Terri.
But if Terri loved animals, why would he even have considered killing creatures that must have been precious to her? Surely she would not have wanted that. Why not find the cats a new home if he wasn't willing to take care of them? Sounds like a real loving guy, doesn't he?
Excellent post; thank you for a cogent "argument" and I totally agree with you.
Michael, you of all people should know this case inside and out.
Go research it some more. You are believing your own crap.
I agree that most battles on earth can't be won- but I think God expects us to fight against Satin all the time.
If you would give up your child like that, I respect your view. Really.
For myself, I'd kill the SOB before he harmed my daughter.
Perhaps, HONESTLY, you're just a better man than I.
God Bless You.
I don't think anyone is suggesting that a) Michael and Terri Schiavo will ever have children together, or b) that Michael Schiavo should not "move on" with his life, have children with a new wife, or (to quote you) a "shack-up" or whatever, and etc...
The thing is, why must Terri Schiavo as a disabled wife die when she only needs food and water like every other living creature to survive? There's no reason for it when her parents disagree vehemently with their son-in-law about their disabled daughter's care and treatment, and reasonable people can agree that the facts are not at all clear here.
Death is irreversible.
From the The Washington Post
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By 1989, Rhodes says, Terri and Michael were having marital problems. The Schindlers have suggested the same in recent years. The Schiavos dispute that claim. Still, both Rhodes and Michael Schiavo (in an interview with CNN) say that the couple had been trying to conceive a child. Terri went to see a gynecologist to address problems with an irregular menstrual cycle.We know now that there was a fight right before she collapsed! The pieces of the puzzle are coming together.The last time she spoke to Terri, Rhodes says, she had just gone to get her hair done. Terri was toying with going back to her natural color, so Rhodes called that Saturday to ask what she had decided. Terri, Rhodes says, was in tears; she and Michael had had a fight over the cost of the salon visit.
Early the next morning, in February 1990, Terri collapsed in the hallway in her house. Michael heard her fall, found her there. Link
I'm going to bed before I get mad. Good night.
Aside from the odd "fact" that this was on the alleged advice of Mrs. Schindler, childless people I think love their pets all the more...I've never heard of "therapy cats", but I know there are therapy dogs that go in hospitals and particularly nursing homes/rehab. facilities...I would think the care of her pets would be a primary issue with Terri for therapy, and if she was actually able to walk at one time early on (as I've read), it seems bringing the cats to the "hospital yard" and sneaking a way for her to see them would have been a very normal thing for a devoted spouse to do.
Even aside from that somewhat illogical scenario, putting the pet cats down seems awfully fatalistic unless it was coincidentally "their time" (both of them)...pet owners will know what I mean.
This case is being used as a test case by the pro-Euthanasia movement and Michael Schiavo has been a willing dupe. George Felos has a long record with that movement, and he was hired in part because hiring Geoffrey Feiger, a far better and media smart lawyer was too connected to Dr. Kevorkian.
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