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Schiavo Case Spurs More Christophobia
David Limbaugh ^ | March 30, 2005 | David Limbaugh

Posted on 04/02/2005 1:37:42 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe

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In Honor of Terri Schiavo

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21 posted on 04/02/2005 2:49:09 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (God rest Terri Schiavo. God save the rest of us.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Thank you for this post, Joe....
I have been looking for the right verbiage for it but we needed a writer to establish one. I am deeply appreciative of the word "Christophobic".
I really think that the real definition is anti-Christ because that is where the "rub" comes but this will do for now.
In the interest of being upright and upfront, however, I will continue to use anti-Christ where it is blatant because that is the source of the itch and the twitch.


22 posted on 04/02/2005 2:50:08 PM PST by Spirited (God, Bless America)
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To: tessalu
When Danforth was Missouri A.G. some decades ago he lived a few blocks away from a friend's home. While there was a city leash law in effect for dogs, Danforth's bird dog was often seen roaming around the neighborhood. Those could have been accidents but I've always wondered.

More recently was Danforth's apparent uncritical rubber stamp on the investigation results from his review of the Waco/Davidian disaster.

One has to wonder how politics might have been effected if Jerry Litton had not been killed in a campaign trip airplane crash. Most likely if he would have lived he would have become the Mo. senator, not Danforth.

At least Rev. Danforth did a good job for Reagan's memorial service.
23 posted on 04/02/2005 2:59:51 PM PST by Rex_Ruthless
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To: Tailgunner Joe
As an aside, "in my book" now has to be the number one phrase for all news/talk shows. I'm getting so sick of hearing "and in my book...", "if you'd read my book..."
24 posted on 04/02/2005 3:11:47 PM PST by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I didn't see the fight over saving Terris life as a religious one, I saw it as plain old common decency. And I do think globalism has the potential to cause a massive nuclear war if we are not careful and not rush into it like we are doing.


25 posted on 04/02/2005 3:16:31 PM PST by John Lenin
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Basically Christians are being demonized for defending the traditional mother/father unit that is one of the pillars of a healthy society, defending the Liberty and Life of every human being whether in womb, aged or handicapped, warning that excesses of any vice can be destructive, while pledging allegiance to a nation also recognizing that a man devised government is no without its flaws etc..

Really. Is it so hard to understand why people fear Christians? Even if you take the spiritual side out, Christians certainly are "inconvenient" to certain counter social and governmental agendas.

I'm not of a mood to be quiet in face of this bigotry, or persecution if one would rather? However my combative stance doesn't arise from shock or fear. I knew what I committed to when I became a Christian. So far...we haven't yet been put to death in this country for professing Christ. Others across the world cannot state the same. In this we are blessed.


26 posted on 04/02/2005 4:55:08 PM PST by Soul Seeker
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To: Spirited
Years ago I started using the term 'cristophobic' with liberals, mocking their term 'homophobic.' Whenever I was called "homophobe", I called back "cristophobe," afraid of God's authority.

The left get so spun up over that term that I've continued to use it. Protests included, "That's not really a word!" (but it's OK for them to make up terms? LOL--hypocrites!)

I like the newest "Christophobic" version even better. I even remember the pope (R.I.P.) saying "Christianophobia" a few months ago.

27 posted on 04/02/2005 5:34:58 PM PST by ViLaLuz
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To: Soul Seeker
"Really. Is it so hard to understand why people fear Christians? Even if you take the spiritual side out, Christians certainly are "inconvenient" to certain counter social and governmental agendas."

Very true. In addition, a big factor is that Christians rely on Peace through Jesus, rather than secular "peace," a false security based on appeasement.

Christians aren't part of that false unity , but united with one another as the Body of Christ.

28 posted on 04/02/2005 5:41:56 PM PST by ViLaLuz
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To: ViLaLuz

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Visit http://rememberedbyus.com/TerriSchiavo/
to light a candle and leave a personal message.

Thank you!

29 posted on 04/02/2005 5:45:53 PM PST by MikeReedKS (Create a FREE Internet Memorial Today at http://RememberedByUs.com)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

A rather Christophobic tone to his argument, coming from an Episcopalian minister..


30 posted on 04/02/2005 6:37:54 PM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: KittyKares

There are basic moral issues that the Christian conservatives are more vocal about. However these moral values are not the sole provence on Christians. The value of life is enshrined in Christian theology, However it also valued among other religions, such as Judaism and Buddhist and Hindu. I am not an expert on religion. Even atheists or secularists can agree on the value of life. Some put more emphasis on the quality of life. Christins are not the only ones that think gay marriage and abortion are wrong.
I don't think that the Republican Party is hostage to the Christian right. It is only that there are shared basic values.

Values are incorporated in law and religion. Early law was done through religion. Islamic Sharia law is an example of this. I don't sgree with Sharia law but can understand that it has greater force if posited through religious dogma.

Without basic shared moral values civilizations can not exist. Thou shall not kill, steal, defame etc. are necessary for people to reside together. To fight to maintain those values is a fight for survival of our society. Since we are a Republic, when the people see that we are straying from these core values they are correct to agitate for change or to prevent perversion and degeneracy from becoming the norm.


31 posted on 04/02/2005 9:40:33 PM PST by Rhiannon
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To: ViLaLuz

You were way ahead of the rest of us.

I thought Christianophobia was a bit unwieldy but this is melodic. It is sorely needed even on FR, unfortunatley.


32 posted on 04/02/2005 9:48:07 PM PST by Spirited (God, Bless America)
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To: Rhiannon

Well said!


33 posted on 04/03/2005 9:03:39 AM PDT by KittyKares
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To: KittyKares

Thanks.
I dont ascribed to the notion that these values are only Christian. Most of all American have internalized the same basic values. Just that people have been deluded by their own desires not to continue to exist when kept alive by machines. Then these personal desires are projected onto a person who can not verbalize her own desire. Those who are fervent Christians value life period. Others want a better life.
My father had a stroke, lost his mobility and later his sight. He was a very active person. However his attiude was that his was thankful for his life , even if it was diminished. He never got depressed. This made an impact that even with physical losses that life was worth living.
He died when he choked on some barbecue meat and his heart failed.My brother said that he could not get to him in time to force the food out and he had congestive heart problem so his margin was less. However he died eating food which was one of his own pleasures. So I can console myself that he had a good death. He never wanted to die hooked up to machine. We did extreme measures on previous health problems but he was able to come back to some degree of enjoyment. He hated being in rehab homes. We later figured that he got more physical therapy by my brother taking him out every day to store and restaurants.


34 posted on 04/03/2005 6:18:19 PM PDT by Rhiannon
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To: Rhiannon

I am sorry your father passed away.

I admire your father's attitude that life is worth living even if in a deteriorating body.

I wonder sometimes if our society is so obsessed with perfection that it makes people feel worthless if they don’t meet that standard. As a result, Americans who are still whole in body cannot fathom existing in a disabled state.

I always remember how one radio talk show host (Dennis Prager) related how he was in India and met a man with no legs. His friends would cart him around with them in a wheelbarrow, and he was never made to feel like he didn’t belong. He was just plain Mishra (or whomever) who happened to have no legs. I thought that was lovely. I wish we were more like that.


35 posted on 04/03/2005 6:36:44 PM PDT by KittyKares
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Today, former Missouri Senator and friend of the family, John Danforth,

David, Rush,

Get better friends.

36 posted on 04/03/2005 6:39:49 PM PDT by don-o (Stop Freeploading. Do the right thing and become a Monthly Donor.)
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To: Rhiannon

Interesting comments.


37 posted on 05/05/2005 6:02:29 PM PDT by risk
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To: risk
Thanks,

It is just those of us who are healthy can't imagine life can be good if we lose mobility or get disabled. However that perspective changes when a person is in that condition. As a species we are designed to survive. That instinct is very strong. I can understand the disabled feeling that the Schiavo case can have fatal consequences for them. Especially by all those people that thought it was better for Terri to die.
38 posted on 05/09/2005 9:10:10 PM PDT by Rhiannon
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To: Rhiannon

Aside from the important value we should place on any life, I simply could not trust Mr. Schiavo to be honest regarding his wife, and no matter what she had said to him during a flippant conversation, without a will. I think we should have relied on her parents to make the final decision.


39 posted on 05/10/2005 9:35:05 PM PDT by risk
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