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The African cardinal tipped to succeed the Pope
Sify.com ^ | 04/03/05 | staff

Posted on 04/03/2005 12:34:54 PM PDT by Perdogg

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To: areafiftyone

I think we'll all be suprised as to the actual choice.......but the Austrian is a centrist.


41 posted on 04/03/2005 1:55:26 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: OldFriend; Aunt Polgara; Perdogg

News Quote of The Day
April 1, 2005
Catholic League President William Donohue discusses with Imus the future of the Papacy.

Imus: "You mentioned the next Pope. What will the Catholics worldwide be looking for, or what will the Cardinals who are going to select the next Pope be looking for? "

William Donohue: "Well don't forget, you have 119 Cardinals devoted and there are 119 that are under the age of eighty. This Pope has appointed more than 95% of them, I like that. The fact of the matter is, I think... I don't know who the next Pope is going to be, but I tell you what, he's not going to be fifty-eight. My guess is you'll probably get some guy maybe around seventy. The reason I say that is, I think they are going to have to rethink the direction in which they want to go. Obviously the next Pope will be stylistically different from this Pope. This is the media Pope, the world traveler. In terms of changing..."

Imus: "Will he be Italian?"

William Donohue: "He will probably be an Irishman..."

Imus: "Really?"

William Donohue: "(Laughing) No I'm kidding. The way the Americans handle the sex scandal they are not exactly... well they are probably in last place. I don't know whether he is going to be Italian or not, but I tell you I think they are going to take some time to rethink some things. Quite frankly everybody says he's a Conservative Pope and what not. I mean, what exactly do they expect him to do? He's not going to change, most of the teachings of the church have been pretty well set. You could change things on celibacy and dealing with Deacons I suppose... if somebody wants to take that on. As far as changing the church's teachings on sexuality, everybody wants a free-for-all Hugh Hefner's type of world. You're not going to get it from the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church talks about restraint in a world where restraint is a dirty word. That's not going to change. The next guy who is committed is not going to be a poster boy for Hugh Hefner."


42 posted on 04/03/2005 1:55:42 PM PDT by leadpenny
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To: Squantos

Should be an interesting next couple of weeks! The media is going to be going nuts speculating!


43 posted on 04/03/2005 1:57:01 PM PDT by areafiftyone (The Democrat's Mind: The Hamster's dead but the wheel's still spinning!)
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To: omega4412
It sounds as if Cardinal Arinze is as strong a proponent of traditional values as the Nigerian Anglican bishops are.

And when you take the Anglican/RC schism away from its European home, it may, God willing, be healed.

44 posted on 04/03/2005 1:58:45 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God)
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To: OldFriend
Liberals want someone who is not judgemental.

So basically, they nothing as a sin. Just a different lifestyle choice.

45 posted on 04/03/2005 1:59:30 PM PDT by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: Wally_Kalbacken
I wish him the best if he's voted in....but I hope we aren't getting another Kofi.
46 posted on 04/03/2005 2:00:45 PM PDT by JimVT (Oh, the days of the Kerry dancing, Oh, the ring of the piper's tune)
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To: expatguy
The left would prefer to think there is no higher power. No judging what they did in life.

They fool themselves for the most part.

I pity them.

47 posted on 04/03/2005 2:05:31 PM PDT by OldFriend ( MAJ. TAMMY DUCKWORTH .......AWE INSPIRING)
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To: Tacis
There are 137 million Nigerians, and the literacy rate is 68%, so there are at least 37 million Nigerians who have never sent internet spam. As long as Arinze is in the 37 million, I have nothing against him. We have no way of knowing at this point how well he would do as pope.

27 years ago no one (except perhaps a few Poles) ever thought Karol Wojtyla would become pope. The next pope may well be someone who is not being talked about now.

48 posted on 04/03/2005 2:12:22 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Perdogg

I just think that the cardinals will choose a younger person to helm the Church.


49 posted on 04/03/2005 2:12:32 PM PDT by thegreatbeast (Quid lucrum istic mihi est?)
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To: areafiftyone

In the past, some countries would meddle in papal elections, even claim the right to veto a candidate they didn't like. I don't think anything good ever came out of that practice.


50 posted on 04/03/2005 2:17:46 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: omega4412; Kolokotronis
It sounds as if Cardinal Arinze is as strong a proponent of traditional values as the Nigerian Anglican bishops are.
51 posted on 04/03/2005 2:19:54 PM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || Iran Azadi || Where are we going, and why are we in this handbasket?)
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To: CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
Outfit almost looks like what's worn by my local MacDonalds servers.

Sure does from that angle. My prayers for the traditionalist African Cardinal, the selection process, and any other worthy candidates.

52 posted on 04/03/2005 2:21:19 PM PDT by steve86
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To: omega4412

Cardinal Arinze is hated and feared by the gay liberal feminist crowd as much as are the Anglican bishops from Nigeria, and for exactly the same reason: he is a rock solid traditionalist who sees strict adherence to classical church teachings as the only salvation for his African flocks. He tells people to sin no more, and to follow the Church's teachings about marriage, sex, and fidelity.

This drives the liberals nuts: watch them turn into racists as they denounce the African clerisy for being `simpleminded', `unable to grasp the nuances and subtleties of the modern world', etc.

It would seem that an African Pope would be the apotheosis of liberal aspirations to `diversity'. Think Clarence Thomas has it rough? Watch as the liberals hurl venom at this cardinal from a small Nigerian village.


53 posted on 04/03/2005 2:26:55 PM PDT by elcid1970
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To: Antoninus
That said, I pray...

God's will and prayer, concepts lost on the blaspheming masses.

54 posted on 04/03/2005 2:28:24 PM PDT by delacoert (imperat animus corpori, et paretur statim: imperat animus sibi, et resistitur. -AUGUSTINI)
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To: sionnsar

+Arinze would be a great pope. Unfortunately, he that enters the conclave a pope usually leaves it a cardinal.


55 posted on 04/03/2005 2:37:46 PM PDT by Kolokotronis ("Set a guard over my mouth, O Lord; keep watch over the door of my lips!" (Psalm 141:3))
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To: Perdogg
My money's on this guy.


56 posted on 04/03/2005 2:43:19 PM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: oldbrowser

Ingebretsen told Cox News. "[But] it's a graduation; why he decided to do the pro-family thing no one seems to know."


Odd, and queer, and quite peculiar - a "gay" academic can't understand how a Bishop could deviate from the Leftist line while speaking at graduation. Could it be related to the fact that he "decided to do the pro-family thing" because he is a Bishop?


57 posted on 04/03/2005 3:40:37 PM PDT by GladesGuru
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To: Ff--150
2001. And 2002 ;o)

Ff--150 wrong? Not from what I know!

58 posted on 04/03/2005 5:01:26 PM PDT by 4CJ (Good-bye Henry LeeII. Rest well my FRiend. Good-bye Terri. We'll miss you both.)
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To: raccoonradio
Novello! Is he still alive?
59 posted on 04/03/2005 5:13:56 PM PDT by solitas (So what if I support a platform that has fewer flaws than yours? 'Mystic' dual 500 G4's, OSX.3.7)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Berosus

The correct guess is beyond anyone at this point, but the always-lovely Time magazine (koff koff) said that Cardinal Ratzinger is the front runner. I'll post the news search link in the next message, ping you now, and give everyone some relevant FR links:

Conclave Choosing Pope to Face New Issues ~~ AP ~~ April 3, 2005
Las Vegas Sun | April 03, 2005 at 13:31:12 PDT
BRIAN MURPHY ASSOCIATED PRESS
Posted on 04/03/2005 1:46:10 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1376668/posts

Who Will The Next Pope Be? (Not "who will be the next Pope")
Tanniker Smith
Posted on 04/03/2005 6:01:07 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1376766/posts


60 posted on 04/03/2005 7:31:54 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (last updated my FreeRepublic profile on Friday, March 25, 2005.)
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