[DaveyB]

... There were no "millions of martyrs," except in the fevered brains of Protestant polemicists....

Let's see there was the Waldensians (sp?), the lollards, the Huguenots, the Lutherans (over 100,000 in the first year alone), let's not forget the battles with Sweeden after King Adolphus was killed then there is the puritans and the covenanters and that is just a couple hundred years in Europe. If we include Africa and South America not to mention the battles with Eastern Orthodox... well maybe just a couple of million.

... or dissociating themselves from those forefathers entirely ...
Your right it was damn foolish of Wycliffe to let himself be dug up and burned like that - that what you get after all for translating the Bible and Luther should never of stopped Tetzel after all indulgences are the best fund raiser since bingo.

Morn for your pope... just don't expect me to

[what's up]

I'm with you DaveyB. Thanks for expressing it so well.

Plus I REALLY don't appreciate the Pope's lack of support in the Iraq war. A BIG mark against him IMO.

[what's up]

Luther should never of stopped Tetzel after all indulgences are the best fund raiser since bingo

Hehehehehehehe!

[Aussie Dasher]

Pope John Paul II was responsible for all that?

Please, wait until at least next week before you dance on this great man's grave!

[TexConfederate1861]

I'm with you, brother. Eastern Orthodox have no love for Latins or the Pope either one. We remember the Latins and how they sacked Constantinople.

[frgoff]

Luther should never of stopped Tetzel

Luther didn't have a problem with indulgences. He had a problem with the corruption of the doctrine.

Luther only came to his realization on sola fide, sola scriptura, etc. when he decided he wanted to start his own church, realized he had no authority, and so created some doctrines that would let him claim authority.

I am neither Catholic nor Protestant.

[Quixotical]

BooYeeeooow

That was a nice response