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1 posted on 04/06/2005 7:33:35 AM PDT by Valin
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To: Valin

OOORRRR You COULD click on sourCe.


2 posted on 04/06/2005 7:35:02 AM PDT by Valin (The Problem with Reality is the lack of background music)
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To: Valin
>It's a Flat World, After All


3 posted on 04/06/2005 7:37:10 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: Valin
it's time to wake up and prepare ourselves for this flat world, because others already are

And, if those very same "others" were jumping off bridges.......

4 posted on 04/06/2005 7:37:51 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it.)
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To: Valin

"In 1492 Christopher Columbus set sail for India, going west. He had the Nina, the Pinta and the Santa Maria. He never did find India, but he called the people he met ''Indians'' "

Good thing he wasn't trying to find Turkey.


5 posted on 04/06/2005 7:42:41 AM PDT by Lokibob (All typos and spelling errors are mine and copyrighted!!!!)
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To: Valin

V,
This is all just globalization, in this case of labor. It has nothing to do with being flat, round, or any other shape. I think Friedman's point is interesting enough on its own, without having to belabor the flat Earth metaphor, which is weak from the start.

I heard him on Al Franken yesterday. He sounded fine, then went off on a big tirade about how the government should pay for every American to go to college or trade school, same as high school for previous generations.

Mr. Friedman, I guess, is unfamiliar with Pell Grants, the GI Bill, and Stafford loans.


6 posted on 04/06/2005 7:46:34 AM PDT by Gefreiter (When seconds count, the police are minutes away.)
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To: Valin

Thanks for a great post. This is the new reality; we are all moving onto the 'flatland' whether we like it or not. The question then becomes - what are the best possible choices for our children vocationally as we watch our wealth and opportunity move to new places.


8 posted on 04/06/2005 7:52:28 AM PDT by Amalie (FREEDOM had NEVER been another word for nothing left to lose...)
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To: Valin

I collaborate with "offshore" partners on projects all the time. I like it. They work harder than the idiots in my own department, and have more talent too.


10 posted on 04/06/2005 7:58:24 AM PDT by Huck (Unauthorized mp3 file sharing is THEFT.)
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To: Valin

Friedman is using it for a joke, of course, but the idea that anyone of consequence in 1492 thought the world was flat is a myth; everyone with a scrap of education knew the world was round.


12 posted on 04/06/2005 8:01:42 AM PDT by Strategerist
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'The world is round,' is NOT what Columbus reported back to the royals! This is a historical myth invented by Washington Irving in his biography of Columbus. What the true debate was about was how LARGE the globe was and in THAT Columbus was actually proven incorrect! It was quite a bit smaller than he had reckoned. However, in God's grace he was saved from dying at sea by a continent he didn't know existed. And that is the rest of the story!


17 posted on 04/06/2005 8:19:29 AM PDT by Madam Theophilus
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Ping!
19 posted on 04/06/2005 8:33:12 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (last updated my FreeRepublic profile on Friday, March 25, 2005.)
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To: Valin

As much as they try to kill him, Von Clausewitz will not die. They have been trying to kill him ever since the early 1900s. He gets in the way of turning the whole world into a shopping mall with no borders. How inconvenient ...

Freakman, a liberal globalist utopian par excellance, it today's leading hater of Von Clausewitz.


20 posted on 04/06/2005 8:40:52 AM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Valin
Even if the metaphor is stretched (flat?) the point is worth keeping in mind for anyone interested in the quality of our education, and our workforce. Bill Gates is right that our high schools are atrocious. U.S. fourth graders rock the world-- twelth graders are middling at best. So what happened in the middle? The sheer fact of being in a developed, wired, rich country will not be enough to guarantee a livelihood when folks other places can do the same job, and perhaps better. So, as the (wacky) Tom Peters used to say, you have to become Brand You. Our education system should push higher level skills and more importantly, flexibility, ability to adapt to changing situations, creativity, and finding solutions to problems (not just getting the answers in the back of the text book). Some folks have already adapted to this system or achieved that kind of education on their own. I think this is a fundamental divide in how folks who generally like the free market see outsourcing and (skilled) immigration. Those who have jobs that require them specifically feel like "let it rip!" Those who have jobs others could do approach both concepts with more wariness.
23 posted on 04/06/2005 9:07:41 AM PDT by laurav
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To: Valin

Tom Friedman shows sheer ignorance of history, which isn't surprising, since he seems to be ignorant about almost everything else.

Earth to Friedman: Nobody in the middle ages or the Renaissance with any kind of education thought that the world was flat. The ancient Greeks figured out that it was round, the the Ptolemaic model, which everyone accepted until the time of Copernicus and Tycho Brahe, had a spherical earth at the center of the solar system.

It's perfectly clear in Dante's Commedia. Dante goes down through the center of a spherical earth, through hell, and out the other side, emerging on the island of Purgatory opposite Italy.

The only quarrel Columbus had with this common knowledge was that he suffered from the delusion that the sphere of the earth was much smaller than commonly thought, and therefore that it would be easy to sail around it. That's why he thought he had arrived in Asia when he hit America.

The rest of this column is also nonsense. Here we are, back to "The Lexus and the Olive Tree," with technology transforming the world. If only everyone had technology, there would be no more war. Ha. Who can look at the history of the past thousand years and even begin to imagine that the advancement of science will, in itself, put an end to war?


26 posted on 04/06/2005 11:28:30 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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