A REAL Proposal to Mend our "Leaky Borders"

04/10/05 | vanity

[CBart95]

A classic and totally meaningless, stupid reaction. You have plenty of company.
It's the "Let Someone else solve the problem-Approach". Meanwhile the Problem has Changed.
Over Ten Million Illegals Are Already Here! You Idiots!
(Even that number,as high as it is, may be low.)
None of these "silly solutions" would solve anything. Period.
There are no prisons,detainment centers, busses,stockyards,toilet paper,staff, anything...sufficient to "handle" or solve the PROBLEM.
While you were waiting for the terrorists to explode a nuclear device, they took advantage of our "loopholes'" and flooded our country with zillions of poor aliens and now their operatives are using our legal system to defeat and confabulate our bewildered government officials at every turn as they try mightily to "sweep this problem under the rug".
CHECKMATE!
Finding a whipping boy? Won't help. Bush? Fox? Nah!
Still want to dig trenches? Erect barbed wire fences? Sign a Proclamation?
The war is over. We lost. And you. (Yes you Bug Eyes)you lost it for us.

[dennisw]

Mexicans are immediately bussed back to Mexico 99% of the time. They do not contest deportation because this would mean they get fingerprinted and entered into a database. They go back and try again.

All others who cross our Mexican border are home free. They are detained a few hours or days then released and told they must come back for a hearing. They are also given legal permission to work while awaiting their hearing. Few show up for the hearing.

So if you come from some pit in Central America you are in like Flynn. Simply due to the logistics of sending you home by airplane. What are needed are much larger detention facilities and a much better organized system of flying illegal aliens home. Or possibly sending them home by ship.

[dennisw]

Start penalizing employers and half the illegals will self deport.

[dennisw]

Don't forget the illegal Central Americans. They are the next largest group of illegal alien invaders after the Mexicans

[MarkL]

Actually, Mark, Genefromjersey said his "home county", not "home country." Reading fast, eh? Or just typing fast? ;)

I'm a "Speed Freeper!" That means that you reply without actually reading the original post.

That way I make sure that the rest of you out there are paying attention!

BTW, my Mea Culpa is in post 29.

Mark

[csmusaret]

They run across I-10 every morning in El Paso.

[worst-case scenario]

I saw that! I must be a secondary Speed Freeper - I hit "reply" before I read the whole thread! My bad.

[Dr.Zoidberg]

You mistakenly believe the federal government has any desire of stemming the flood of illegals flowing into this country. A position that has been proved false on many occasions.

Until there is another act of super-terror that can be linked directly to the open borders, there will be no action. There will be none then unless the citizens react with sufficient outrage to frighten the federals into thinking their jobs aren't safe.

The Minutemen have come closer to securing the border (yes, a short section, but more than was being secured) than either political party has been, or will be willing to do until we force them. All the greatest plans in the world won't do a thing until we take our alleged leaders by the throat and shake some sense into them.

Power rests in sufficient numbers of outraged and motivated citizens standing up and saying "This Ends Now!" That's the only way to secure the borders. Until then, the No Borders traitors will continue to control the floodgates

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

"They run across I-10 every morning in El Paso."

Er... eh... Peace and love. FReegards....

[Sarajevo]

Like this???

[zeaal]

What about the prison tent camp the Sheriff in AZ put up a few years ago ... now, that did not seem to be a very pleasant place to hang out.

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

"They do not contest deportation because this would mean they get fingerprinted and entered into a database."

For crying out loud!!!!! We don't even fingerprint all of them? What a joke! DNA, fingerprints, photographs, and we could even have ankle bracelet-enforced detention jobs for them. For goodness sake.

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

Tents might work if you have ankle bracelets. But they don't provide much protection. God knows what the more thuggish types would do to the ones who came to work. They should be shackled for their own safety, I guess. But the left would complain about marks on the wrists. That's how wimpy America has gotten.

Sad FReegards....

[lifelongsoldier]

Your idea won't work. It makes too much sense. So those in power will automatically reject it. It is a good idea, though, and I would love to see it done. When I was under forty I thought of the same thing. Ship them back posthaste and bill the Mexican government for the costs of catching them and returning them. We could take it out of the foreign aid each year.

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

I'm becoming cynical about the Mexican economy. Perhaps we should let it go it's own way, without any propping up. Then after the commies take over and get unpopular, we oust the commies. It would be painful. Many would die. But if they drag down the USA, who will be their sugar daddy then?

[lifelongsoldier]

Like your ideas too, but we need to eliminate the "Club Fed" concept and confine them at hard labor. Much less appealing. Most of those jackasses would welcome a few years at "Club Fed".

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

"Ship them back posthaste and bill the Mexican government for the costs of catching them and returning them. We could take it out of the foreign aid each year."

Now there's an idea! And ship them to the southernmost point of Mexico, AFTER getting DNA, mug shots, and fingerprints-- which we normally don't do right now.

[Nowhere Man]

Create a DMZ like between the Koreas and fill it with mines. Put four heavily guarded entry points between the two countries: one in California, one in Arizona, and two in Texas (Brownsville and Laredo).

You sound like what my father proposed, ironically, he was stationed on the DMZ between the Koreas back around 1955/56 at Camp Casey. We were talking about this and for "craps and giggles," I suggested dumping nuclear waste there too, my father upstaged my joke and he added, "at least at night, they'll glow and you can see them." B-) We also liked the idea of a moat loaded with sharks, electric eels and of course alligators. We had a good time with that one. B-D

I actually like Glenn Beck's idea where you take a three sided fence, face the open side to Mexico but when they cross, they will not be able to enter the US or at least go any further since the three sides prevent them so, so the other thing they can do is go back south. I know if I tried to break into most countries illegally, I know and would be expect to be detained and flown/driven back unless the guards were nursing a bad case of acid reflux and I end up getting shot.

[dennisw]

For crying out loud!!!!! We don't even fingerprint all of them? What a joke! DNA, fingerprints, photographs, and we could even have ankle bracelet-enforced detention jobs for them. For goodness sake.

I spoke too soon. The BP *might* fingerprint them but they are not entered into the Justice system in the sense that if they contest immediate deportation (which is rare) and lose they can be sent to prison if nabbed a second time crossing over.

[Condor51]

***let me tell you what every third-grader knows. First, EOs apply only to the Executive Branch of the federal govt.***

Then you must have skipped 3rd grade as the following EO's for example are (or were) law and do not pertain exclusively to the Executive Branch of the Federal Government.

Executive Order 12566 (Safety belt use requirements for Federal employees).
Executive Order 12561 (Delegating certain functions of the President relating to Federal civilian employee and contractor travel expenses).
Lastly and this is an easy one, Executive Order 12564 (Drug-Free Federal Workplace)

As to the Treasury and 'impounded' funds.
For one, if the 'sanctuary zones' like NYC, Chicago and LA were declared illegal - which they are in fact to begin with but more importantly enforced by the Federal Government, withholding funds would not be illegal. Countless 'strings' are attached to federal funding to cities and programs. Issuance or withholding funding as a condition of compliance with Federal Law, regulation and or statute pertaining to said funding is a 'no brainer' (that is, unless one skipped 3rd grade).

BTW, you might want to read about an EO issued by RR that redefined 'Federalism' and how Clinton was going to 'slightly' revise it. That is until Congress found out the contents and went into an uproar. BJ's EO would have given him unheard powers as POTUS. For instance he could have declared Marshal Law at the snap of a finger. Thankfully do to Congress he never signed it.