Never gonna happen
These feminists need to start their own church or maybe join the episcopalians. Don't want 'em in mine.
In case the NYTimes doesn't have a complete list of dissidents already!
1 Timothy 2:11-13
11A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. 12I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent. 13For Adam was formed first, then Eve.
No scriptural reason ?..Better look again !
Both Paul VI and John Paul II declared the matter closed.
Honestly, I don't think these people read the Bible.
1st Corinthians Chapter 14 and 1st Timothy both condem the ordination of women.
That's right. Until recently, women were priests in the catholic church, such as the Roman Catholic Church and the Eastern Orthodox Church.
It's just the modern reinterpretation of the Bible by these Johnny-come-lately theologians that created the male-only priesthood. It's time to go back to the biblical model of female priests.
[/end of sarcasm]
Of course. That started the night JPII died.
Why did God not choose a woman to die on the cross?
If women clegry in non Catholic faiths are any example, watch out. Liberalism reigns in those denominations even to the point that many of these women are pro abortion.
This would be real popular with the majority in Africa and South America. /sarcasm
There are no references to women as priests or bishops in the Bible or in any archaelogical find.
There are women who financially supported or endowed churches that are referenced in the Scriptures and in the archaeological record, but no record of women being ordained or appointed over churches.
In a Wrinkle In Time, Madeline L'Engle depicts a society which has confused "equality" with "sameness." It is a horror.
Won't happen.
The following groups are listed as dissenting groups in the area of women's ordination. They do NOT reporesent the Catholic Church!!
| Women-Church | Promotes women priests ("priestesses"). |
| Women's Ordination Conference (WOC) | WOC promotes women priests ("priestesses"). WOC is characterized by strong language denouncing "the patriarchal church" and the papacy of John Paul II. WOC leaders have suggested "new" sacraments that mark stages in a woman's life. Example: "Sacrament of Croning" at age fifty to herald the coming of "Wisdom." A recent WOC conference claimed ordination meant subordination; consequently, ordination needs to be Reconstructed. It is not unusual for WOC meetings to begin with an invocation to a pagan goddess, and may feature a pagan ritual meal. Member of Catholic Organizations for Renewal. |
| Women's Ordination Worldwide (WOW) | Promotes women priests ("priestesses"). |
| Women in Church Leadership (WICL) | Promotes women priests ("priestesses"). |
| Women's Alliance for Theology Ethics and Ritual (WATER) | Emphasis is on "inclusiveness," in liturgy and re-interpretation of the Scriptures to the radical feminist view. |
Unfortunately for the RC church, the best arguments for the all-male ministerial priesthood have not been gathered into a teaching document. Much better has been the effort of the Orthodox communities. For example, one argument comes from the persistent metaphor of the Church as the Bride of Christ and Christ as the Bridegroom (this image comes from many strands of the Gospel traditions, from Paul, and from Revelation at least). If one conceives the priest as the alter-Christus, as the Catholics and Orthodox do, then the maleness of the priest is required in order for this metaphor to continue to have meaning. And this metaphor is not a minor image in the New Testament: it is central, and speaks to the very meaning of the relationship between Christ and the believing community.
Well if men can become nuns????
(1) The Catholic Church of Czechoslovakia was not underground. It was a heavily monitored yet aboveground institution, just like the Church in Poland.
(2) Liberalization of Catholic practice and teaching was a goal of the state and there were many fake Catholics doing unorthodox things at the government's direction in the Eastern Bloc.
(3)Even if one is capable of being ordained, i.e. one is a man, he can only be legitimately ordained by a bishop. I don't recall Archbishop Tomacek authorizing any ordinations of women of women or performing any.
So this statement is clearly a lie, and actually may be several lies wrapped together.
These people (and the media) just don't get it. They seem to think that the rules were all made by Pope John Paul II, not the bible. I hope the next pope has the exact beliefs as Pope John Paul II.