oil for $15.00 a barrel?

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=349511 ^

[r9etb]

Technological savvy could turn 600 million tons of turkey guts and other waste into 4 billion barrels of light Texas crude each year

Lessee... 4 billion barrels at 55 gallons/barrel * 8 lbs per gallon = 880 million tons.

So apparently we can get greater than 100% mass efficiency on this miracle process.....

[television is just wrong]

We have a delorean. Looking for a Mr. Fusion., (sarcasm)

[ruiner]

I hate to point out the obvious . . . but if oil sells for $50 a barrel, these guys can make it for $15, why not patent the process and just sell it for $49 a barrel. That one dollar differences is BILLIONS in profit.

[Greg_99]

An article on this was posted here a couple of years ago. At that time they were building the plant for the Turkey Ofal. It's wonderful to see this coming to fruition.

[U S Army EOD]

You beat me to the exact two names I was going to say something cute about. However since that technology is not active yet, there is still hope.

North Korea is becoming a problem. One problem that North Korea has got is not enough food since there appears to be wide spread canablism in the country. My solution is to send them both Ted Kennedy and Michael Moore in the form of a care package if they will give up their nuclear weapons. The North Koreans will be getting the best end of the deal.

[RSmithOpt]

You are almost correct if you run the numbers.....1 barrel of crude = 42 gallons.

[litehaus]

"This will happen shortly"

It already has.....Doncha remember the FISHER Carb for autos back in the fiftys? GM and Standard Oil "killed" it......LOL...............

[RightWhale]

if it really works as advertised

It does, especially the part about separating investors from their money.

[ShadowAce]

So apparently we can get greater than 100% mass efficiency on this miracle process.....

According to post #12:

Appel also had high hopes that he would get a $1-a-gallon biofuel tax credit for production costs, or about $42 per barrel.

That leads me to believe that a barrel isn't 55 gals. Also, I believe that oil is lighter than water (which is ~8 lbs/gal).

[joesnuffy]

Oilent Green Is People

[FreePaul]

A barrel of oil is forty two gallons. West Texas crude is considerably less that eight pounds per gallon, more in the six to seven range.

[Centurion2000]

Appel strides to a silver gray pressure tank that is 20 feet long, three feet wide, heavily insulated, and wrapped with electric heating coils. He raps on its side. "The chief difference in our process is that we make water a friend rather than an enemy," he says. "The other processes all tried to drive out water. We drive it in, inside this tank, with heat and pressure. We super-hydrate the material." Thus temperatures and pressures need only be modest, because water helps to convey heat into the feedstock. "We're talking about temperatures of 500 degrees Fahrenheit and pressures of about 600 pounds for most organic material—not at all extreme or energy intensive. And the cooking times are pretty short, usually about 15 minutes."

Once the organic soup is heated and partially depolymerized in the reactor vessel, phase two begins. "We quickly drop the slurry to a lower pressure," says Appel, pointing at a branching series of pipes. The rapid depressurization releases about 90 percent of the slurry's free water. Dehydration via depressurization is far cheaper in terms of energy consumed than is heating and boiling off the water, particularly because no heat is wasted. "We send the flashed-off water back up there," Appel says, pointing to a pipe that leads to the beginning of the process, "to heat the incoming stream."

The guy's a G-danged genius for thinking so far out of the box. Once it's explained it makes perfect sense.

[CedarDave]

I, too have read the original article before. It may be a year to several years old. What's the date on the miami.com article? Is it a recent one?

$80/barrel is a far cry from the $15/barrel touted in the original article.

[bvw]

"We will be able to make oil for $8 to $12 a barrel," says Paul Baskis, the inventor of the process. "We are going to be able to switch to a carbohydrate economy."

Somehow I doubt that number. About 35 gallons per barrel. A tenth of a ton. He may be assuming his feedstock is free or even taken for a profit . Once you have plants like these, competition with force feedstock price up. Hard to beat the price of pumped crude at the well-head.

[Always Right]

I've already solved this problem. My car runs efficiently on bald eagle heads.

I find freshly clubbed baby seals work a little better.

[Arkie2]

Like your tag line. You must have taught her well. Unfortunately, marksmanship is not what it used to be. Guns are evil doncha know.

[Ignatz]

While no one plans to put people into a thermal depolymerization machine,

Lib's will make it mandatory for babies and the handicapped, probably through some idiot judge somewhere.

[stinkerpot65]

I'm using spotted owls and baby seals. And my dolphin jerky goes great with a whooping crane shake.

[Centurion2000]

"If a 175-pound man fell into one end, he would come out the other end as 38 pounds of oil, 7 pounds of gas, and 7 pounds of minerals, as well as 123 pounds of sterilized water".

You mean we could run gas engines on democrats ? :)

[bvw]

But today, a barrel of the grade 2 to 6 diesel oil costs almost $80 to make, Appel said, while the company buying the experimental oil is paying only about $40 a barrel under its contract.

Appel and his colleagues had assumed turkey waste would cost nothing because they expected the federal government to put a ban on feeding animal waste to animals. They estimated that processing plants would pay them $24 a ton to take away the offal.

But that didn't happen, and Appel now is paying $52 a ton for animal waste, he said.

Oh, now I see. Thanks. That's more realistic. 80$ a barrel.