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Sex researchers shed light on unpopular sex acts
Reuters ^ | 5/7/05 | Amy Kalin

Posted on 05/08/2005 3:09:58 PM PDT by wagglebee

SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - From bondage to "breath play" and zoophilia, it's not easy keeping up with society's fast-developing sexual trends.

That's why some of North America's top sexologists are hunkered down with academics and therapists at a Fisherman's Wharf hotel this weekend: to swap findings about everything from teens with underwear fetishes to transgender couples.

"These couples have problems that I didn't know how to deal with," said Olga Perez Stable Cox, president of the Western U.S. region of the Society for the Scientific Study of Sexuality. "You have to understand the culture, otherwise you're an outsider, and you don't get it."

The theme for the society's four-day conference is "Unstudied, Understudied And Underserved Sexual Communities." Presentations range from discussions from autoerotic asphyxiation, or "breath play," to zoophiles, or animal lovers, to more mainstream topics like sex motives of dating partners.

"Let me tell you, it was not easy finding these pictures," Hunter College professor Jose E. Nanin told his audience in a seminar about "specialized" sexual behavior among gay men.

Nanin's photos are more than an explicit how-to of exhibitionism and sadomasochism, he says; they are examples of safe alternatives to sexual intercourse that need to be de-stigmatized in order to fight diseases like HIV/AIDS.

Researchers say their greater goal is to help the medical community, the public and legislators figure out what behavior is merely out of the norm versus downright dangerous.

"As sex researchers, one of our concerns is distinguishing what can be harmful and what is not -- so that instead of being based on myth, public policy can be informed," said Charlene Muehlenhard, professor of psychology and women's studies at The University of Kansas.

When authorities caught a Midwestern U.S. teenage boy stealing girls' underwear, they immediately demonized his underwear fetish, Pennsylvania State University researcher Patricia Barthalow Kosch said. Many clinicians attribute the boy's crime more to broken family relations. The crime was theft, not his sexual fantasies, conference attendees said.

Teen sexuality draws sensational headlines, but suffers from a lack of academic study, researchers said.

Kim Openshaw, a psychology professor at Utah State University in Logan, Utah, who studies teenage sex offenders, said the limited amount of research so far has found that girls make up only 5 to 10 percent of all underage sex offenders.

The numbers are underreported, Openshaw says, because many people are reluctant to acknowledge the problem.

Victims of girl sex offenders tend to be in the immediate family circle. Most perpetrators are victims of family abuse. By contrast, boy sex offenders tend to be more macho, violent and attack outside of their immediate family.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: disorders; fetishes; homosexualagenda; perversion; psychology; sex; sexoffenders; sodomalert
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To: Loyalist
Amazing, isn't it, that they could conduct all this research with just one hand?

One hand with a glove?
102 posted on 05/08/2005 4:05:01 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: Lazamataz

I bet you could find several over at the DU


103 posted on 05/08/2005 4:05:18 PM PDT by apackof2 (Truth is absolute or absolutely nothing is True)
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To: LadyDoc

>>ah, but any cop can tell you that these things "escalate"...first he breaks into houses to get underware, but with time many of these men act on their fantasies. So you see kidnapping, rape and murder.

If he merely wanted ladies underware, he could easily buy it or shoplit it. <<

Exactly, the difference is consent - or more precisely, informed, adult, human, consent. As soon as you are talking about acts when everyone doesn't consent or anyone is underage or it involves animals, it becomes something the state has an an interest in preventing. You don't need a religious argument although you can certainly add that.

Paul from Atlanta


104 posted on 05/08/2005 4:06:00 PM PDT by paul_fromatlanta
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To: MadIvan
Taxpayers of course! A luncheon to discuss "unpopular sex practices", no problem. Taxpayers will foot the bill and never know it.

Good to see you MadIvan! Stick around!

105 posted on 05/08/2005 4:06:52 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (I once opposed keelhauling but recently have come to my senses.)
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To: wagglebee; concordKIWI; ErnBatavia
Nanin's photos are more than an explicit how-to of exhibitionism and sadomasochism, he says; they are examples of safe alternatives to sexual intercourse that need to be de-stigmatized in order to fight diseases like HIV/AIDS.

,,, yeah, right.

106 posted on 05/08/2005 4:08:13 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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To: Lazamataz

As long as the calliope is playing Beethoven's Fifth Symphony, I don't see a problem. :)


107 posted on 05/08/2005 4:09:30 PM PDT by NorthWoody (Hey, politicians! Stand up, be men, do your jobs and close the borders while there's still time.)
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To: Frank_2001
"It's otherwise known as bestiality, and according to the article is a "safe" alternative to intercourse and therefore useful for fighting the spread of AIDS."

Great - not only do we have to worry about Mad Cow Disease, but Gay Cow Disease, too?

108 posted on 05/08/2005 4:10:13 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (L'chaim!)
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To: Lazamataz
"How come everyone claims I have these strange fetishes?"

Ummm.....could it be because you keep telling us about them?

109 posted on 05/08/2005 4:12:53 PM PDT by sweetliberty (Never argue with a fool. People might not know the difference.)
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To: Lazamataz
Still needs spinner rims.

Conquest and destruction are fine things but one must remain
mindful of popular opinion and appeal. Think of the youth.

If you happen to make Papal appearances with those crappy rims nobody will love you.

110 posted on 05/08/2005 4:13:46 PM PDT by humblegunner
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"It's otherwise known as bestiality, and according to the article is a "safe" alternative to intercourse and therefore useful for fighting the spread of AIDS."


What a foolish argument. Animals have their own diseases that they transmit and many can also be carriers for human diseases... Not to mention it's just plain wrong.


111 posted on 05/08/2005 4:16:56 PM PDT by paul_fromatlanta
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To: wagglebee
Olga Perez Stable Cox

You've got to be kidding me......

112 posted on 05/08/2005 4:17:20 PM PDT by ThreePuttinDude (The US needs to pull the feeding tube from the UN)
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To: MadIvan
The only thing I want to know is who is paying for all this.

Well said.

Incidentally, it is good that the effectiveness of a certain post-election opus was of limited duration.

113 posted on 05/08/2005 4:20:03 PM PDT by aposiopetic
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To: followerofchrist
"WHERE is PETA on this issue?"

Having sex with Loving the animals, of course.

114 posted on 05/08/2005 4:22:43 PM PDT by sweetliberty (Never argue with a fool. People might not know the difference.)
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To: Lazamataz
I'll cut any part of my body off for a chance at sex.

Not if it's the wrong one!

115 posted on 05/08/2005 4:22:44 PM PDT by pa mom
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To: Enterprise

I wondered the same thing--asked my hubby, "There are unpopular sex acts? Who knew?"

Ya learn something new everyday!


116 posted on 05/08/2005 4:23:46 PM PDT by SoVaDPJ
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To: Bernard

Reminds me of that CSI episode about folks who enjoyed dressing up in animal costumes. Furries, I believe they were called . . .


117 posted on 05/08/2005 4:24:09 PM PDT by pa mom
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To: Lazamataz
Strangely enough, I've not found a woman who shares this common fetish.

Believe me. It's the caliope music.

118 posted on 05/08/2005 4:26:42 PM PDT by gitmo (Thanks, Mel. I needed that.)
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To: samtheman
"Teen sexuality draws sensational headlines, but suffers from a lack of academic study, researchers said."

Am I the only remaining person in the known universe that still believes that teenagers have no business HAVING sex?

119 posted on 05/08/2005 4:26:52 PM PDT by sweetliberty (Never argue with a fool. People might not know the difference.)
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To: pa mom; Lazamataz
CSI episode about folks who enjoyed dressing up in animal costumes

More folks would like them if they had cool spinner rims.


120 posted on 05/08/2005 4:28:28 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: ashnam

I guarantee that most of this is not new. We just need to hear about it, apparently. I'm sure my bro-in-law's family has been friendly with sheep for years.

But again, we're all here, and the thread is growing fast. Thread about the filibuster can't even get 20 posts!


121 posted on 05/08/2005 4:29:06 PM PDT by pa mom
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To: Frank_2001

Great, no AIDS, but mange cases are going to go through the roof.


122 posted on 05/08/2005 4:29:58 PM PDT by pa mom
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To: wagglebee
Nanin's photos are more than an explicit how-to of exhibitionism and sadomasochism, he says; they are examples of safe alternatives to sexual intercourse that need to be de-stigmatized in order to fight diseases like HIV/AIDS.

That's the ticket. Making acceptable things like strangling your sex partner and having sex with sheep will fight diseases like HIV/AIDS. These researchers are brilliant.

Think of all the time, effort and money that was wasted in explaining to people that sodomizing each other, and sharing needles, will cause diseases like HIV/AIDS to spread. We've had it all wrong, what we really need to be doing is convincing people that it is acceptable to engage in even more bizarre behaviours.

123 posted on 05/08/2005 4:30:58 PM PDT by Entropy Squared (The Rush to Chaos)
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To: little jeremiah

ping


124 posted on 05/08/2005 4:31:25 PM PDT by darkangel82
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To: humblegunner

We'll have to get federal funding for that.


125 posted on 05/08/2005 4:31:56 PM PDT by pa mom
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To: Lazamataz

Maybe these rumors are the reason you weren't elected pope.
lol


126 posted on 05/08/2005 4:32:58 PM PDT by kalee
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To: Lazamataz

Definitey less strange than sounding is.


127 posted on 05/08/2005 4:33:01 PM PDT by stands2reason (It's 2005, and two wrongs still don't make a right.)
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To: wagglebee
zoophilia

I take it that this is the new, nonjudgmental term for bestiality.

128 posted on 05/08/2005 4:34:41 PM PDT by stands2reason (It's 2005, and two wrongs still don't make a right.)
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To: humblegunner

More folks would like them if they had cool spinner rims.


Stolen spinner rims. I'm tellin' Roger!

129 posted on 05/08/2005 4:36:46 PM PDT by Flyer (If I were 8 pixels tall I could fit in my tag line)
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To: Wolfie

Muddy Waters playing in the background would really make it work....

And blackberry jam in place of the marmalade.


130 posted on 05/08/2005 4:37:52 PM PDT by stands2reason (It's 2005, and two wrongs still don't make a right.)
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To: MadIvan
Glad to see that you're still here, MadI.
Please don't take anything personally.
131 posted on 05/08/2005 4:38:11 PM PDT by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
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To: wagglebee

I do believe the Bible speaks of characteristics of a degenerate society that's eliminated laws that became the fabric of society for millenia.


132 posted on 05/08/2005 4:38:33 PM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: Flyer
Well, he hosted 'em on Photobucket which I hipped him to.

I felt fairly justified!

133 posted on 05/08/2005 4:38:45 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: All

An older friend of mine recently retired as a law enforcement officer. He always liked telling about the five times he was called to stop a strange individual in one of our communities from having sex with three cows and two horses.

He even caught the man in the act and took a polaroid of it, but that didnt even stop him.

What stopped him was getting kicked by a horse.


134 posted on 05/08/2005 4:38:47 PM PDT by Armedanddangerous (September 11, 2001, never forget, and never forgive.)
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To: wagglebee

It's choking someone out while they climax.


135 posted on 05/08/2005 4:39:18 PM PDT by stands2reason (It's 2005, and two wrongs still don't make a right.)
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To: shaggy eel
That statement is classic transference and is a classic liberal tactic. AIDS was thought to be bad, but bestiality could be OK if you don't get AIDS. They had a different name for strange stuff, but you can't escape the message.
136 posted on 05/08/2005 4:39:23 PM PDT by Thebaddog (Dawgs off the coffee table.)
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To: wagglebee

....and who is paying for this scientific research?

Some things better left unknown.
The alphabet soup of GLTQQ/BLT is getting soupier, and yukkier I might add.


137 posted on 05/08/2005 4:40:05 PM PDT by Cincinna (BEWARE HILLARY and her HINO)
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To: wagglebee
"Zoophilia" is very perverse bestiality.

As opposed to the other kind of bestiality?

138 posted on 05/08/2005 4:40:17 PM PDT by SoVaDPJ
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To: SoVaDPJ

"As opposed to the other kind of bestiality?"

Well said.


139 posted on 05/08/2005 4:40:51 PM PDT by GOPRaleigh (Results may vary.)
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To: SoVaDPJ

Yeah, I realized after I wrote it that it was somewhat redundant.


140 posted on 05/08/2005 4:42:23 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: darkangel82

Argh, I thought I pung it out... I'll double check. It's so freaking unsavory.


141 posted on 05/08/2005 4:43:25 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it.)
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To: wagglebee

Not if you really love the sheep . . .


142 posted on 05/08/2005 4:43:30 PM PDT by pa mom
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To: Lazamataz

I can't believe they didn't pick you. Does this mean you'll run for antipope? I hear the position is still open. :-)


143 posted on 05/08/2005 4:45:17 PM PDT by stands2reason (It's 2005, and two wrongs still don't make a right.)
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To: paul_fromatlanta
Animals have their own diseases that they transmit

Syphillis is one. Comes from sheep.

144 posted on 05/08/2005 4:45:47 PM PDT by SoVaDPJ
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To: wagglebee

>>That's why some of North America's top sexologists are hunkered down with academics and therapists at a Fisherman's Wharf hotel this weekend: to swap findings about everything from teens with underwear fetishes to transgender couples.<<

Nope, that's not why. I think this bunch of nutty lefties go off on pictures of and a discussion about weird acts. An orgy of porn disguised as a study.


145 posted on 05/08/2005 4:45:55 PM PDT by melancholy (Quiz: Name ONE country, other than the USA, that doesn't control its borders.)
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To: wagglebee
. . ."specialized" sexual behavior among gay men.

Specialized sexual behavior among homosexual men? Considering their "normal" sexual behavior, the notion buggers the imagination.

146 posted on 05/08/2005 4:46:36 PM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: thompsonsjkc; odoso; animoveritas; St. Johann Tetzel; DaveTesla; mercygrace; ...

Moral Absolutes Ping.

I almost don't want to ping this out, it's so extremely distasteful....Blechh. But, doing my duty regardless of personal feelings, here it is. Gotta know what the sick freaks and leftists (but I repeat myself) are up to. Know thine enemy, it is really necessary.

BTW, the pic of the girl and little goats (#29) is really cute; having been around goats here and there I've got a soft spot for baby goats. And in a very normal way, I might add!

Let me know if you want on/off this pinglist.


147 posted on 05/08/2005 4:50:27 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it.)
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To: little jeremiah

Glanced at the article again and noticed that this - meeting? or whatever is people by ACADEMICS and THERAPISTS.

Avoid them like the very plague.


148 posted on 05/08/2005 4:51:24 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it.)
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To: wagglebee

Sex researchers? I want to know how one gets a Ph.D. in sex research and can someone please tell me which universitites offer this course of study? Thanks in advance. I knew I would find something to get me back into the classroom in retirement....


149 posted on 05/08/2005 4:51:32 PM PDT by hardworking (-O-U)
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To: hardworking

Have a friend getting one in sex therapy from Drexel in Philadelphia. Her husband gets quite a few comments!


150 posted on 05/08/2005 4:53:37 PM PDT by pa mom
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