Posted on 05/10/2005 10:20:58 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan
Well, this certainly looks like a juicy USSC challenge.
"History and fact doesn't matter to most in government anymore."
True, and a good thing the founders put the 2nd in to ensure that can be changed when necessary.
>>This will mean the waverers will turn ....<<
Never waive your rights when you should be waving the Flag!
Join the NRA while we can still vote through the ballot box instead of the ammo box.
And if you are already a member, please put the initials in your tagline. Thank you.
About 1/2 through my life membership dues. (Easy pay life)
Well, even the enumerated rights don't really mean "what the words say."
After all, the SCOTUS ruled that "Congress shall make no law" doesn't really mean that "Congress shall make no law."
Mark
Where have you been? We all know that rights are bestowed upon us by our government, which we all serve! That way, government can do what it will, whenever it suits our masters!
What government gives, government can take away.
Mark
Great but did you notice how few of the Freepers on the banglist aren't members? I can understand Freepers on other threads but if someone is going to an "expert" at something, wouldn't you think they would support it so they could continue?
It's laughable where they complain they have to throw the mailings away while others are writing the checks.
bttt
Against whom? If you are suggesting a toe to toe running gun battle by a few patriots against government forces...I think that's suicidal. They will use the "big gun," the radio, to call in helicopters and any other supporting arms as required. Look at the current battle in western Iraq between very well armed Islamic fighters and the USMC as an example.
The bolt action rifle which maximizes range and is used for ONE SHOT at least gives a patriot a chance to escape the soon-arriving Quick Reaction Force.
Oleg Volk is a national treasure!
The NRA should give him their highest award for his RKBA artwork.
1/3 on the computer and 2/3 still in my brain.
Sigh.
This is an extremely interesting and important case, for IMHO, (no I'm not a lawyer, but I'm a client of one, and mrsgwmore works in the justice system ;-) this case could be the one "biggie" that makes it to SCOTUS.
We RKBA activists have been waiting a long time for a test case that the Supremes would touch, and this looks like it might be a good one. The only problem I see, at this point, is the appeal after appeal before it actually gets there (Similar to Terri Schiavo) with the outcome already preordained by the tame Judgenfuherer. Both NY and NJ are totally controlled by liberal gun grabbers, who would like nothing better than to confiscate all one's firearms, and a wrong move at this point, with a wrong decision could be disastrous.
That being said, we are back to the stinking "State's Rights BS all over again, and what trumps what. IMHO, I believe, (and what patriot and conservative doesn't) that the 2A, is totally unambiguous in it's wording, and all the BS concerning commas, "well-regulated" etc/. os simply verbiage of the time in which the amendment was first written, and still holds true today.
There has been plenty of precedent in case law for striking down nuisance lawsuits against firaarm manufacturers for injuries inflicted by criminal use of their lawfully manufactured, highly regulated product. I see no difference here, The only change is that the suit was in the Peoples Demokratik Republik of New York, with it's Politikal Kommisars Xlintoon and Schumer, we all KNOW where they stand.
Patton, allow me to join in, like you, I also am the holder of a "Far More Than TS". and although now retired, disabled, still want to join in this scrap. Let me know what I can do to help out, I'.m here 24/7...
Since I reside "somewhere in a red zone deep in a secret location in the blue state of PA, at least I still have some rights here, but those could be gone at a moment's notice. We can't ever cease our vigilance, for even one microsecond.
Again, thanks much for the pings, this was an extremely important post, and worth reading and book-marking.
Keep the Faith for Freedom!!
Greg
Excellent and cogent analysis by PzGr43 above. That is just how the statists will try to do it.
B-U-M-P!
~ Blue Jays ~
If dan, tonk or you know who is representing him - I have some cash hidden away for a rainy day...
NY! what a load if malarky!
This is the same state that confiscated weapons from law abiding citizens.
They essentially said turn them in or move out of state!
Freakin tyrants. What part of "shall not be infringed" dont they understand?
Thanks for the ping!
Then I think you're more than covered.
LOL...
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