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Predators & Pornography. A disturbing link.
NRO ^ | May 19, 2005, 8:15 a.m. | By Penny Nance

Posted on 05/19/2005 11:05:47 AM PDT by .cnI redruM

On February 2, 2003, when seven-year-old Danielle van Dam disappeared from her family home in the middle of the night, every mother’s nightmare was played out on national television for almost a month while authorities searched for the girl. When Danielle’s body was found at the end of that month, the police and prosecutors discovered a frightening story about a neighbor of Danielle’s who had computer files filled with child pornography and even a sickening cartoon video of the rape of a young girl.

According to a report by Robert Peters, president of Morality in Media, on the link between pornography and violent sex crimes, the prosecutor in the Danielle van Dam case said “The video represented [the defendant’s] sexual fantasies and inspired the abduction, rape, and murder of Danielle.” According to Raymond Pierce, a retired NYPD detective who worked on the sex-crimes squad for many years and is now a criminal-profiling consultant, about 80 percent of rapists and serial killers are heavy pornography users. I was a victim of an attempted rape by a disturbed man who turned out to be involved in pornography.

May is Victims of Pornography Month. Today Senator Sam Brownback (R., Kan.), Rep. Katherine Harris (R., Fla.), Rep. Joe Pitts (R., Pa.), and leaders from the values community will participate in a summit to explore the troubling connection between pornography and violence against women and children.

Florida attorney general Charlie Crist advises parents that “we must never lose sight of the fact that sexual predators make the online world a dangerous place for innocent children. Parents must be ever-vigilant to make sure their children are not exposed to images and messages that would have been unthinkable just a generation ago.” Crist warns that we cannot allow the Internet to be a “pipeline for pornography aimed at children.” But while parents can use available means to protect their children when they are in their own homes, there is a cultural climate surrounding our children that threatens them the way Danielle van Dam was threatened. Because of the availability of pornography online, there is no way of knowing what lurks in the hearts of our neighborhoods.

More needs to be done to evaluate the connection between violent predatory behavior and pornography, and to crack down on these violent predators. Police and law-enforcement officers across the country report brutal instances in which those addicted to pornography utilized its sadistic images on their female and child victims.

Just this past February, the New York Times reported a story about a teenage babysitter who had raped three young children he was watching in their homes. According to the Times, his pattern was to watch pornographic videos with the oldest of the children, a 12-year-old boy, and intimidate them all by torturing them with a knife and threats to their family members. Perhaps one of the most notorious serial killers, Ted Bundy, participated in an interview with Dr. James Dobson shortly before he was executed. In the interview, Bundy explained, “I’ve lived in prison for a long time now. And I’ve met a lot of men who were motivated to commit violence like me. And without exception, every one of them was deeply involved in pornography — without exception, without exception — deeply influenced and consumed by an addiction to pornography.”

Since 1956, the Supreme Court has made clear that the First Amendment does not protect obscene materials. If we know from the perpetrators themselves how obscenity contributes to violence against women and children, what can we do?

We need to fund more studies of the addiction to pornography and its effects on violent behavior. Parents can install filters on any computer used by children and keep the family computer in a central location, not in a child's bedroom or someplace where parents might not regularly see it. We need to demand tougher law enforcement on the state and federal level. The Bush administration is stepping up federal enforcement of obscenity laws. This is a good first step. Contact the U.S. attorney for your district and ask what they are doing to enforce the laws. We need tougher state penalties against both possession and distribution of child porn and passing any kind of pornographic material to kids. Experts indicate that pornography is often used by pedophiles to break down the resistance of child victims. Parents should check out their state’s penalties for child rape and make sure offenders are going to jail and staying there for these offenses. Florida, for example, just passed a tough new law after the tragedy involving Jessica Lunsford, whose killer was a recently released violent offender. We should pass legislation to address the threat to children on the Internet. This includes chat sites, websites, spam, and peer-to-peer networks. Peer-to-Peer networks are of particular concern because they are widely visited by kids and offer porn for free without any age verification.

As Rep. Katherine Harris has pointed out, "Pornography displays human beings as objects, obliterating the wall between an individual's sick fantasies and the compulsion to act upon them. Often, the monsters who hurt women and children start with this malignant desensitizer." We need to all work together to find better ways to protect women and children against this violence.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: amencorner; artorsmut; daniellevandam; mim; needlebutts; porn; violence
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To: MarkL

You raise a good point about porn often being boring, not stimulating to the reader or viewer. For me, it's embarrassing to watch with anyone else, including the Mrs. Alone, a few minutes of looking at pix and I'm making little overtures to her. No go? Let it go, it'll come up again (wink, wink).
There's more than one point to be made in this discussion. I was thinking it got late in the thread before someone said let's distinguish between legal adult porn and illegal child porn.
How does looking at Sharon Stone naked make a person want to do the paperboy? Doesn't seem to make sense.
To answer another poster: 18 years old is the dividing line and courts and legislatures and town governments have the authority to set the rules.
Historically, societies have had trouble distinguishing art and porn. Courts rule. They may not get it right but at least there is a legal answer. The Pieta is art but what of Mapplethorpe? I thought it was porn and child porn but people paid their way into big art galleries to see it.
Other than the Internet, U.S. society seems to have found a balance it can live with but the web poses problems never before seen.


201 posted on 05/19/2005 12:50:54 PM PDT by jjmcgo
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To: JeffAtlanta

Are you saying there's anything wrong with Alaskan fishing boats? :)


202 posted on 05/19/2005 12:51:08 PM PDT by Fierce Allegiance (This is not your granddaddy's America...)
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To: .cnI redruM
The media culture today is saturated with sexual innuendo, sexual suggestions, sexual lyrics, sexual images and sexual violence. Everyday activities are portrayed with constant sexual overtones. This constant titilation has those who view it having to decide how to respond. Some can absorb it and walk away, others need more or some way to remove the expectations that have been building in their minds and bodies. Easy access to pornography makes going the next step pretty easy today. Ask any librarian about the kind of things she finds in the computer booths. But just as we all could go to the museum every day and look at art objects, that is not all that life is about. And just because it is there doesn't mean we must participate. We need to put our sexuality back into context. Protect our children from these 'art objects(??)' is as important as protecting them from all the other things that hurt them. I'm amazed that we don't have more acting out when you see all the sexual images(tv, music, videos, clothing, billboards...) and hear all the sexual lyrics presented to our young children and teens everyday. Sexuality is the lure being used to destroy many lives. How much 'art' can we stand before it destroys us?
203 posted on 05/19/2005 12:51:50 PM PDT by grame (mom of 4, mom-in-law of 4, grammy to 9 precious gifts from God)
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To: JeffAtlanta

Not that's what YOU said. Look at your post again.


204 posted on 05/19/2005 12:52:00 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: frogjerk
Do you mean in a "free" society people decide and vote on what laws should be appropriate and just?

Nope.

In a "free society", government gets involved when another person's rights are being violated.

The model you suggest is three wolves and a sheep deciding (and voting !) on what's for dinner.

205 posted on 05/19/2005 12:52:28 PM PDT by jimt
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To: AppyPappy
Are you saying that a VS commercial can influence people to commit sexual crime?

Actually, I thought that was exactly what you were saying... Weren't you the one drawing the conclusion that "pornography" causes sexual predation, and that porn is advertising?

Mark

206 posted on 05/19/2005 12:52:56 PM PDT by MarkL (I've got a fever, and the only prescription is MORE COWBELL!!!)
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To: Fierce Allegiance; cyborg
Are you saying there's anything wrong with Alaskan fishing boats? :)

LOL - I saw on the discovery channel where it was ranked the most dangerous job in the world - I think that somewhere around 30% die each year. For some reason, cyborg, refuses to answer if she would like her husband to have that job. After all, according to her logic, if there is a job out there that you wouldn't want your child doing then it should be illegal.

207 posted on 05/19/2005 12:53:45 PM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: Antoninus

See your hypocrisy? It's okay to publish pictures of women's attributes that make you horny (breasts, pubic hair, butts) but not pictures that might make women horny (erections).
With you, it really comes down to my way or the highway, doesn't it?


208 posted on 05/19/2005 12:53:49 PM PDT by jjmcgo
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To: GOPJ; Dead Corpse
You're an idiot, a sickie, or someone oblivious to the concept of statistical probabilities

Dead Corpse is none of what you describe.

now, a little refresher on the Rules here on FR:

Please: NO profanity, NO personal attacks, NO racism or violence in posts.

get it? got it? good.

209 posted on 05/19/2005 12:53:51 PM PDT by King Prout (blast and char it among fetid buzzard guts!)
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To: MarkL
Weren't you the one drawing the conclusion that "pornography" causes sexual predation

No, you have me mistaken with someone else. I was arguing that media can influence people behaviors.

210 posted on 05/19/2005 12:54:17 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: MarkL

good point.


211 posted on 05/19/2005 12:54:58 PM PDT by King Prout (blast and char it among fetid buzzard guts!)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
Your problem starts there. You have a completely subjective opinion.

Perhaps. But I'd prefer to be found guilty of thinking than not thinking.

How do you know that? Maybe Playboy porn is already too much for men to take? Or maybe not?

Perhaps. Playboy is the porn equivalent of a beer, whereas Hustler is the porn equivalent of crack-cocaine. Beer does damage, but it is considered an acceptable risk. Crack is not.

Such as gynecological textbooks? Should only gynecologists see them?

Oh please. Find me a gynecologist who is also a porn addict. Being a gyno has the exact opposite effect from everything I've heard...

I wrote: The auto-sexual pleasure some derive from it is far outweighed by the damage it inflicts on society at large.

You wrote: And you got this from what? How about the damage that arbitrary bans based on personal taste and getting into other people's business does to personal liberty and free expression?

Where did I get it? Practically verbatim from the US Supreme Court. See post 149. This is how Americans thought prior to the Cultural Revolution of the 1960s.

Current Communist Goals, ca. 1964

24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

They sure did a great job brainwashing a lot of you folks...
212 posted on 05/19/2005 12:55:07 PM PDT by Antoninus (Benedictus qui venit in nomine Domini, Hosanna in excelsis!)
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To: Fierce Allegiance

Deep sea fishing is the most dangerous job in terms of fatalities. I wouldn't want my son or daughter working as one.


213 posted on 05/19/2005 12:55:07 PM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: .cnI redruM

Tricky subject as to whether or not porn encourages sexual predators. I believe it does, just like alcohol abuse can lead to alcoholism. Trying to ban the stuff would be a waste of time trying to enforce and get around all the legal wrangling. I'll go ahead and admit to watching porn on occasion, but it would be nice if it wasn't so prevalent in our society. But just assuming that it were even remotely possible to ban the stuff, our best bets would be to leave along legally (except for the child porn), and use social control to demonize it and keep it from being socially acceptable.


214 posted on 05/19/2005 12:55:29 PM PDT by Free and Armed
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To: AppyPappy
Not that's what YOU said. Look at your post again.

huh? You and your fellow theocons are the ones that are stating that pornography causes people to do violent things. I personally don't think that VS is pornography, but many theocons in these threads do.

215 posted on 05/19/2005 12:55:52 PM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
What does sex with my spouse have to do with porn? Most folks dont need the little blue pills, they dont need porn either. I dont see it as natural or normal. I do see it as a sickness however. Call me a theocon call me what ever you want, but this is all about self and brings NO glory to God what so ever. I know that all of you God hating "conservatives" or "libertarians" just want to have your fun, but the One in heaven knows whats best for us and that crap aint it.
216 posted on 05/19/2005 12:57:08 PM PDT by TheGunny
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To: jimt; frogjerk

that's democracy for you.

a free republican state would be a heavily-armed sheep politely disagreeing with the consensus vote.

the Founders deliberately shunned "democracy" in favor of republicanism.


217 posted on 05/19/2005 12:57:11 PM PDT by King Prout (blast and char it among fetid buzzard guts!)
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To: jimt
In a "free society", government gets involved when another person's rights are being violated.

Check out the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence. The Founding Fathers of this great nation believed that the people's rights derived from God and were not "created" by man.

It would be crazy to think that they would create a society where rights derived by God would be so easily manipulated into justifying acts against Him.

218 posted on 05/19/2005 12:57:11 PM PDT by frogjerk
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To: MarkL
Not at all... You made a statement, specifically that you (collectively) are working to build the "Kingdom of God." I was directly responding to your statement. Here, I'll quote you again:

Not sure who you're quoting there, but it ain't me, friend.
219 posted on 05/19/2005 12:57:18 PM PDT by Antoninus (Benedictus qui venit in nomine Domini, Hosanna in excelsis!)
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To: Antoninus
If your watching of football and taking a golf vacation causes your wife extreme emotional distress, you might want to think about it...

Not what I asked. That's a personal decision.
I asked if they should be banned.
220 posted on 05/19/2005 12:57:30 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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