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Predators & Pornography. A disturbing link.
NRO ^ | May 19, 2005, 8:15 a.m. | By Penny Nance

Posted on 05/19/2005 11:05:47 AM PDT by .cnI redruM

On February 2, 2003, when seven-year-old Danielle van Dam disappeared from her family home in the middle of the night, every mother’s nightmare was played out on national television for almost a month while authorities searched for the girl. When Danielle’s body was found at the end of that month, the police and prosecutors discovered a frightening story about a neighbor of Danielle’s who had computer files filled with child pornography and even a sickening cartoon video of the rape of a young girl.

According to a report by Robert Peters, president of Morality in Media, on the link between pornography and violent sex crimes, the prosecutor in the Danielle van Dam case said “The video represented [the defendant’s] sexual fantasies and inspired the abduction, rape, and murder of Danielle.” According to Raymond Pierce, a retired NYPD detective who worked on the sex-crimes squad for many years and is now a criminal-profiling consultant, about 80 percent of rapists and serial killers are heavy pornography users. I was a victim of an attempted rape by a disturbed man who turned out to be involved in pornography.

May is Victims of Pornography Month. Today Senator Sam Brownback (R., Kan.), Rep. Katherine Harris (R., Fla.), Rep. Joe Pitts (R., Pa.), and leaders from the values community will participate in a summit to explore the troubling connection between pornography and violence against women and children.

Florida attorney general Charlie Crist advises parents that “we must never lose sight of the fact that sexual predators make the online world a dangerous place for innocent children. Parents must be ever-vigilant to make sure their children are not exposed to images and messages that would have been unthinkable just a generation ago.” Crist warns that we cannot allow the Internet to be a “pipeline for pornography aimed at children.” But while parents can use available means to protect their children when they are in their own homes, there is a cultural climate surrounding our children that threatens them the way Danielle van Dam was threatened. Because of the availability of pornography online, there is no way of knowing what lurks in the hearts of our neighborhoods.

More needs to be done to evaluate the connection between violent predatory behavior and pornography, and to crack down on these violent predators. Police and law-enforcement officers across the country report brutal instances in which those addicted to pornography utilized its sadistic images on their female and child victims.

Just this past February, the New York Times reported a story about a teenage babysitter who had raped three young children he was watching in their homes. According to the Times, his pattern was to watch pornographic videos with the oldest of the children, a 12-year-old boy, and intimidate them all by torturing them with a knife and threats to their family members. Perhaps one of the most notorious serial killers, Ted Bundy, participated in an interview with Dr. James Dobson shortly before he was executed. In the interview, Bundy explained, “I’ve lived in prison for a long time now. And I’ve met a lot of men who were motivated to commit violence like me. And without exception, every one of them was deeply involved in pornography — without exception, without exception — deeply influenced and consumed by an addiction to pornography.”

Since 1956, the Supreme Court has made clear that the First Amendment does not protect obscene materials. If we know from the perpetrators themselves how obscenity contributes to violence against women and children, what can we do?

We need to fund more studies of the addiction to pornography and its effects on violent behavior. Parents can install filters on any computer used by children and keep the family computer in a central location, not in a child's bedroom or someplace where parents might not regularly see it. We need to demand tougher law enforcement on the state and federal level. The Bush administration is stepping up federal enforcement of obscenity laws. This is a good first step. Contact the U.S. attorney for your district and ask what they are doing to enforce the laws. We need tougher state penalties against both possession and distribution of child porn and passing any kind of pornographic material to kids. Experts indicate that pornography is often used by pedophiles to break down the resistance of child victims. Parents should check out their state’s penalties for child rape and make sure offenders are going to jail and staying there for these offenses. Florida, for example, just passed a tough new law after the tragedy involving Jessica Lunsford, whose killer was a recently released violent offender. We should pass legislation to address the threat to children on the Internet. This includes chat sites, websites, spam, and peer-to-peer networks. Peer-to-Peer networks are of particular concern because they are widely visited by kids and offer porn for free without any age verification.

As Rep. Katherine Harris has pointed out, "Pornography displays human beings as objects, obliterating the wall between an individual's sick fantasies and the compulsion to act upon them. Often, the monsters who hurt women and children start with this malignant desensitizer." We need to all work together to find better ways to protect women and children against this violence.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: amencorner; artorsmut; daniellevandam; mim; needlebutts; porn; violence
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To: El Conservador
Blaming porn on sexual crimes is like blaming weapons for wars.

Culture has a huge effect on behavior. If those in a society were immersed with the message that life must be taken for every preceived insult the society would be much more violent than one immersed with the message that it is better to overlook insults.

481 posted on 05/19/2005 7:19:36 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: XR7

I'd take it more seriously if it didn't have that whopping $99 sign up fee. These jokers could care less about you or your addiction, it's your hundred bucks that interests them.


482 posted on 05/19/2005 7:34:09 PM PDT by Melas
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To: cyborg

I have no idea. I would think it would be the young lonely guys.


483 posted on 05/19/2005 7:50:16 PM PDT by Melas
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To: Asphalt
A small amount of alcohol has been said to be healthy. Your body needs some fat, gambling is stupid but it merely makes you lose money, tobacco is a seperate argument along with crack and all that.

Big Macs fit in the same boat. They have broken up marriages as well. The same can be said of sporting events and twinkees.

The bottom line is that your questions aren't really that illuminating (no offense) as American's tend not to ban things just because the aren't "useful". In fact, we tend to take pleasure in "useless" pursuits - collecting baseball cards, tinkering with cars, etc.

484 posted on 05/19/2005 7:59:41 PM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: gregwest

Well done.


485 posted on 05/19/2005 8:03:44 PM PDT by skr (May God bless those in harm's way and confound those who would do the harming)
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To: thompsonsjkc; odoso; animoveritas; St. Johann Tetzel; DaveTesla; mercygrace; ...

Moral Absolutes Ping.

I bet you can all figure out my POV on pornography - especially involving children (supposedly outlawed, but the SCOTUS for some psychotic reason allows it if the images of children aren't "real"), or violence, etc.

Freedom of speech has limits. And actions have reactions. Child pornographers should be executed. Those who indulge in child porn should be publicly beaten, maybe several days in a row. Child molesters? Executed after the first offense.

Let me know if you want on/off this pinglist.


486 posted on 05/19/2005 8:31:20 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it.)
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To: Publius Valerius
My only point is that people who claim to take a moral Christian high ground really don't have much ground to stand on--especially when you consider Matthew 7:1--"judge not that you be not judged."

The Jesuits did you a bad turn. I'm a product of 8 years of Jesuit education myself, and but for the Grace of God, I would have been spouting the same piffle as you have.

Show me where Christ said, "Tolerate the deviant and the sexaually immoral. Encourage them in their vice and tell them that it's fine and healthy to like porn." No, that's not what he taught at all, is it. Instead, he said:

"You have heard that it was said to the ancients, 'Thou shalt not commit adultery.' But I say to you that anyone who so much as looks with lust at a woman has already committed adultery with her in is heart. So if thy right eye is an occasion of sin to thee, pluck it out and cast it from thee; for it is better for thee that one of thy members should perish than that thy whole body should be thrown into hell. And if thy right hand is an occasion of sin to thee, cut it off and cast it from thee; for it is better that one of thy members should be lost than that thy whole body should go into hell." Matthew 5:27-30

I had to find that scriptural verse myself. I don't think I ever heard a Jesuit reference it.
487 posted on 05/19/2005 8:58:16 PM PDT by Antoninus (Benedictus qui venit in nomine Domini, Hosanna in excelsis!)
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To: Publius Valerius
I also don't think Jesus is saying that we can't have laws to protect society, but I think he says we should make moral judgments about the actions of others--that is for God to decide.

Really? Then what do you suppose St. Paul was saying here:

"I wrote to you in the letter not to associate with the immoral--not meaning, of course, the immoral of this world, or the covetous, or the greedy, or idolaters; otherwise, you would have to leave the world. But now I write to you not to associate with one who is called a brother, if he is immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or evil-tongued, or a drunkard, or greedy; with such a one not even to take food. For what have I to do with judging those outside? Is it not those inside whom you judge? For those outside God will judge. 'Expel the wicked man from your midst.'" 1 Corinthians, 5:9-13.
488 posted on 05/19/2005 9:13:38 PM PDT by Antoninus (Benedictus qui venit in nomine Domini, Hosanna in excelsis!)
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To: JeffAtlanta
That wasn't Rome in decline. It was Rome at its highest point.

Tiberius and his "minnows" are Rome at its highest point for you? Please. Deviants like Tiberius, Caligula, Nero (who castrated and married a boy, btw), Elagaballus, etc. were able to exist at all because of the hundreds of years of worth of capital Roman discipline and militarism had been able to store up. Once that capital was ennervated and depleted by vice that permeated practically all of Roman society, they became like the Eastern potentates--dependant on money and mercenaries to cling to an ever-shrinking empire.

In the US, we're currently living off of the capital of our heroic ancestors. That's why a Commodus-like figure like Bill Clinton could be president and the nation still survive. However, we've got to renew our dedication to true manliness and virtue. Porn is not part of that agenda. I for one never met a "gentleman" at a gentleman's club.
489 posted on 05/19/2005 9:25:03 PM PDT by Antoninus (Benedictus qui venit in nomine Domini, Hosanna in excelsis!)
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To: JeffAtlanta
You were wrong as the time of Augustus and Tiberius was Rome's highest point.

If you're an imperialist, you may view it that way. I'm sure the historians of the British Empire did. If you're a true small "r" republican, you see it as the sad and final destruction of Rome's ancient republican institutions and freedoms.

Actually, your statement is the height of irony and here's why:

Let me ask you. If in 2008, Howard Dean (just to pick a name) was elected president for life, assumed to himself all the powers of the executive, judicial, and legislative branches and turned Congress into a rubber stamp, had his political enemies proscribed and killed and their property seized, and started promulgating moral laws (like the Lex Julia for instance which demanded that all bachelors get married and have children) would you call it the highest point in American history?
490 posted on 05/19/2005 9:33:17 PM PDT by Antoninus (Benedictus qui venit in nomine Domini, Hosanna in excelsis!)
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To: Modernman
I believe any laws that regulate the private consensual sexual acts of adults are unconstitutional.

That's funny. In your opinion, then, from the time the Constitution was written until the Cultural Revolution 1960s, we lived with laws that were patently unconstitutional. You're too much.
491 posted on 05/19/2005 9:40:04 PM PDT by Antoninus (Benedictus qui venit in nomine Domini, Hosanna in excelsis!)
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To: JeffAtlanta
So any guy that has ever masturbated has had a homosexual experience?

Pretty much. What is homosexual sex but mutual masturbation anyway? Just trading one man's hand for another. Pretty sick if you ask me.
492 posted on 05/19/2005 9:42:02 PM PDT by Antoninus (Benedictus qui venit in nomine Domini, Hosanna in excelsis!)
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To: Melas
Freedom isn't about doing what's best for the collective. That's communism. If liberty isn't the lynchpin that the American experiment was built on, I don't know what is.

"Freedom" isn't the ability to do anything you want when you want with whomever you want. That's license. Societies built on license don't last very long. Societies built on political freedom and moral virtue (see the Founding Fathers, Alexis de Tocqueville, etc.) not only persist, but succeed in spreading happiness and opportunity to the greatest portion of its people.

By your definition of freedom, we lived under tyranny for the first 180 years of this nation's existence. Funny, but that's exactly the kind of opinion I got from my dope-smoking 60's retread professor in Western-Civ class in college....
493 posted on 05/19/2005 9:52:57 PM PDT by Antoninus (Benedictus qui venit in nomine Domini, Hosanna in excelsis!)
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To: cyborg
Well cyborg your son never would as he is not dependent on you to assist him in all of his care needs.

It is what you don't need to know.

And should never need to either.

BTW my son is now more into his Catholic Faith after sticking his left foot into the world 5 years ago.
That I am very grateful for.
494 posted on 05/19/2005 10:38:02 PM PDT by oceanperch ( Labrador Lover!)
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To: Antoninus
Tiberius and his "minnows" are Rome at its highest point for you?

As a world power, yes. That is what is meant when someone says "nation X was at its peak" or "country Y is in decline". It's a function of military might and world influence. For example, Germany as a world power was at its peak under Hilter.

If you had followed the thread, the original poster proclaimed that sexual relations with children was a modern phenononom. I pointed out that it wasn't and used Tiberius as an example from 2000 years ago. Rather than admitting that she was wrong, she tried to dismiss the example by saying that Rome was in decline. Even if true, how does that matter? The fact is that adult sexual relations with children has existed for a LONG time.

495 posted on 05/19/2005 11:07:23 PM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: Antoninus
Perhaps you should actually go back and reread 413 and 421, before you spew more nonsense about doing anything you want with whomever you want, as you obviously think I was saying. I said no such thing.

License is of course a bad thing. As I'm fond of saying, the very definition of civilization is predicated on sacrificing some personal freedoms for the security of community. However, I have a hunch that you and I would disagree wildly on where those lines are drawn. I have a hunch from what I'm reading here that you're really no different than the garden variety liberal when it comes down to recruiting government to impose your views by force.

As for the bit about living under tyrany for the first 180, years, I wouldn't have chosen those words. But...I would say enthusiastically that we've improved as we went along. The first 80 or so of those years were marked by slavery, which is surely a form of tyrany. The next 60 or so were marked by the exclusion of women from political life....so please, spare me the "we were perfect from the beginning" speech. We weren't.

496 posted on 05/19/2005 11:16:06 PM PDT by Melas
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To: Antoninus
What is homosexual sex but mutual masturbation anyway? Just trading one man's hand for another. Pretty sick if you ask me.

Huh? Ask your husband if he has ever masturbated. Ask your priest too. Any guy that says that he hasn't is either lying or never went through puberty. You are basically saying that 99.9999% of the male population has had a homosexual experience.

This is the kind of thinking that scares people when it comes to theocons. Unfortunately, the general public thinks that theocons speak for all conservatives. If any presidential or senate candidate ever talked like this, he would get about 20% of the vote. Alan Keyes' message was a much watered down version of the above and he got 27% in a state that Bush got 45%.

This kind of thinking will never be in power as people would rather live under a socialist government than a theocracy. The only thing that keeps people voting for the democrats is their fear of the theocons. Remove the theocons from the GOP and democratic party dies.

497 posted on 05/19/2005 11:21:13 PM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: Antoninus
In your opinion, then, from the time the Constitution was written until the Cultural Revolution 1960s, we lived with laws that were patently unconstitutional.

Many things that were considered constitutional in the past would not be today through either amendments and SCOTUS decisions.

498 posted on 05/19/2005 11:37:48 PM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: Bird Jenkins
For an anti-porn thread, there sure is a lot of jerking off going on here.

That's funny because it's true. Good one.
499 posted on 05/20/2005 2:59:23 AM PDT by Blowtorch
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To: Wolfie
Funny how "conservatives" embrace "root causes" when it suits them. But mention a link between povery and crime, and suddenly its the individual, not the situation.

Great analogy and good point-and an honest observation too. Things we do and are involved with affect us more than we realize. No man is an island, not even one alone on a computer.
500 posted on 05/20/2005 3:10:24 AM PDT by Blowtorch
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