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Stout says no to ROTC discrimination (Wi.)
Stoutonia Online ^ | 5/23/2005 | Lindsey Schuldt

Posted on 05/22/2005 10:19:19 PM PDT by quietolong

Stout says no to ROTC discrimination

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By Lindsey Schuldt
News Editor

Recently the Army Reserve Officers' Training Corps (ROTC) was proposed to come to the University of Wisconsin-Stout campus. On Monday, May 9, Chancellor Sorensen sent out an e-mail to all UW-Stout staff informing them that he had decided against the ROTC program on our campus.

"I have decided not to move forward with the invitation," said Sorensen. "I do not think, in good conscience, we can invite an organization to campus that discriminates against anyone because of sexual orientation."

The ROTC program has a "Don't Ask, Don't Tell, Don't Pursue" policy that disallows anyone not of heterosexual orientation to participate in their programs.

"The ‘Don't Ask, Don't Tell' policy basically says if you are openly gay in the ROTC, you will get kicked out," said Adam Duffenbach, a senior majoring in service management and the president of the Student Senate Association (SSA).

Sorensen took many different factors into mind when making his decision. He had advice from the Chancellor's Advisory Council as well as votes from SSA, the faculty senate and the academic staff senate.

Both the SSA and the faculty senate voted in favor of the ROTC program. The only senate that voted against the program was the academic staff senate, which had an overwhelming 10 to 2 vote.

"The academic staff senators, in consultation with their constituents, had come to the agreement that the policy of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" does not support UW-Stout's principle of understanding and accepting differences, particularly with regard to the [homosexual] community," said Viola Jones, chair of the academic staff senate.

The main factor in the Chancellor and academic staff senate's decisions were the conflicts between the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy and Plan 2008.

"The program would be bad for the university because it contradicts the plan of 2008, which embraces diversity from all angles, including sexual orientation," said Duffenbach. "It'd be like the university lying to itself."

Sorensen apparently felt the same way as the academic staff senate.

"At a time when we are promoting diversity and tolerance, ROTC would send quite a different message, stating in effect that we say one thing but practice another," said Sorensen.

Once ROTC is on campus, it is very difficult to remove it.

In Madison, less than a month ago, the students met with the UW-System Chancellor, John Wiley, and requested that the ROTC program be removed from the University of Wisconsin-Madison. They were denied because the Board of Regents had previously refused to repeal the program in 1989.

In 2003, MIT had to revise its nondescrimination policy and refer to ROTC as an exception because of their "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy. ROTC said it was not its problem that MIT had to change policy.

"‘Don't Ask, Don't Tell,' I'm not interested in one's sexual preference, and I'm not going to ask about it," said Army Lt. Col. Brian L. Baker, who ran the ROTC program at the time.

Out at Stout, the gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender organization on campus, is thrilled with the news.

"I commend Chancellor Sorensen for his effort to promote diversity and equality," said Danielle Wojcik, an art education graduate of UW-Stout.

"He didn't bend down for any organization or group," said Wojcik. "Had he, he would have been silencing people and not allowing individuals to be themselves."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: rotc
Anyone for a FReep some time soon? Menomonie starting to get blue.
1 posted on 05/22/2005 10:19:19 PM PDT by quietolong
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To: quietolong
He didn't bend down for any organization or group," said Wojcik. "Had he, he would have been silencing people and not allowing individuals to be themselves."

No, he didn't. But he sure did bend over for a particular group, as most liberals do.

2 posted on 05/22/2005 10:30:51 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (In God We Trust. All Others We Monitor.)
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To: quietolong

Stout: The easy way out.

I'm glad the head of a joke of a university can do something to make himself feel important.


3 posted on 05/22/2005 10:33:40 PM PDT by flashbunny
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To: quietolong
[the gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender organization]



Did you know that it's fun to say the name of this group out loud, five times in a row?


Really. Try it. It's fun. I'm not kidding.
4 posted on 05/22/2005 10:36:33 PM PDT by spinestein
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To: flashbunny

Stout may be a small U. But it gives degrees in things that you can go out in the real world and get a job with.
Several Professors have deer heads mounted in there offfices that they took with a bow. I would like to see that in some big name Us.

Stout for the most part is a good school.


5 posted on 05/22/2005 10:52:09 PM PDT by quietolong
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To: flashbunny

UW-Stout link
http://www.uwstout.edu/


6 posted on 05/22/2005 11:00:45 PM PDT by quietolong
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To: spinestein

I always like the abbreviation GLBT because it sounds like a kind of sandwich.


7 posted on 05/22/2005 11:02:28 PM PDT by flashbunny
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To: quietolong

"He didn't bend down for any organization or group," said Wojcik. "Had he, he would have been silencing people and not allowing individuals to be themselves."

Ah, but isn't that what it's all about? I rest my case.

8 posted on 05/22/2005 11:41:04 PM PDT by sinanju
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To: sinanju

I'd like some kid to challenge that in court, saying an institute of education should not discriminate against potential military careers. There are plenty of students who would like to make the military a career as an officer and by not allowing the ROTC program takes away from the learning process.


9 posted on 05/23/2005 12:39:10 AM PDT by ONETWOONE (onetwoone)
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To: quietolong
an art education graduate

Betcha that was a grueling cirriculum.

10 posted on 05/23/2005 12:57:26 AM PDT by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: flashbunny
I always like the abbreviation GLBT because it sounds like a kind of sandwich.

It sounds to me like a designer date-rape drug.

11 posted on 05/23/2005 2:45:45 AM PDT by Erasmus ("The best-laid men gang oft a-gley." --Robt. Burns)
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To: flashbunny
As a Stout student, I can tell you it ain't the easy way out. Nay, we say "When in doubt, go to Stout."

Stout isn't a joke of a university; I honestly believe we have a joke of a chancellor, that's all.

12 posted on 05/23/2005 4:57:44 AM PDT by rzeznikj at stout (My Tagline! Where the heck is it?)
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To: quietolong

GRRRRRRR! We have the same problem in the Portland schools.


13 posted on 05/23/2005 7:33:58 AM PDT by SAMWolf (Why isn't "palindrome" spelled "palindromeemordnilap"?)
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To: flashbunny

LOL!


14 posted on 05/23/2005 9:56:57 AM PDT by spinestein
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To: quietolong

Just one more thing parents need to take into account before sending sons and daughters to this liberal sink hole. If you will funnel the ideas and teachings so that your students get a biased left leaning socialistic viewpoint, then people who want to raise their kids in a capitalist environment should not attend.

My son applied this rule and did not apply to any of the UC campuses in CA. Same here.


15 posted on 05/23/2005 10:01:16 AM PDT by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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To: flashbunny
I always like the abbreviation GLBT because it sounds like a kind of sandwich.

A really bad kind of sandwich...

16 posted on 05/23/2005 10:41:32 AM PDT by BlueMondaySkipper (The quickest way of ending a war is to lose it. - George Orwell)
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To: flashbunny

Stout Stout the easy way out. If you can't make it there, go to Eau Claire.

Even Berkeley East aka UW-Madison has ROTC. Sheesh.


17 posted on 05/23/2005 10:46:44 AM PDT by Kryptonite (Pope Benedict XVI - The Rat Zinger!)
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To: xsrdx

Hey. Stout has a well know art student

He’s known across the country

:-)


18 posted on 05/25/2005 12:36:55 AM PDT by quietolong
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