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LIVE Senate Filibuster Thread ~ Day 4
C-span ^ | 5-23-05 | US Senate

Posted on 05/23/2005 8:14:11 AM PDT by OXENinFLA

Senate Debate on Nominations Today the Senate resumes debate on the nomination of Texas Supreme Court Justice Priscilla Owen to the Fifth Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals. The Senate will conduct its first roll call vote of the week at 5:30pm. Follow the C-SPAN networks & C-SPAN Radio for the debate on Senate rules & judicial nominations. MON., 11:30AM ET, C-SPAN2

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ORDERS FOR MONDAY, MAY 23, 2005 -- (Senate - May 20, 2005)

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Mr. CORNYN. I ask unanimous consent that when the Senate completes its business today, it stand in adjournment until 11:30 a.m. on Monday, May 23. I further ask that following the prayer and pledge, the morning hour be deemed expired, the Journal of proceedings be approved to date, the time for the two leaders be reserved, and that the Senate then return to executive session and resume consideration of the nomination of Priscilla Owen to the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals, provided that the time from 12 noon until 1 p.m. be under the control of the majority leader or his designee and, at 1 p.m., the Democratic leader or his designee be recognized; provided that floor time then rotate between the two leaders or their designees every 60 minutes until 4 p.m., at which time the majority leader or his designee be recognized until 4:45 p.m., to be followed by the Democrat leader or his designee from 4:45 p.m. until 5:30 p.m.

The PRESIDENT pro tempore. Without objection, it is so ordered.

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PROGRAM -- (Senate - May 20, 2005)

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Mr. CORNYN. Mr. President, on Monday, the Senate will resume consideration of the nomination of Priscilla Owen to serve as a circuit judge on the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals. Monday will be the fourth consecutive day the Senate considers the Owen nomination.

Over the past 3 days, a number of Members, on both sides of the aisle, have come to the floor to speak on the nomination. We have conducted over 25 hours of debate, and we will continue on Monday. Moments ago, we filed a cloture motion on the nomination, and that will ripen on Tuesday of next week.

On behalf of the majority leader, I remind my colleagues the leader has announced our next rollcall vote will occur Monday afternoon at 5:30. That vote will be on a motion to instruct the Sergeant at Arms to request Senators' attendance. Senator Frist will have more to say about next week's session on Monday.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: 109th; 23may2005; constitutionaloption; democratnukereaction; execfilibusterbuster; filibuster; reidsnuclearreaction; ussenate
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To: Txsleuth
This compromise still includes the definition "extraordinary circumstances" that which still up to each senator to decide the definition. Now if a Rat doesn't like the nominees shoes, does that constitute "extraordinary circumstances"? It could be a sign of religion?
2,221 posted on 05/23/2005 7:35:19 PM PDT by tobyhill (The war on terrorism is not for the weak!)
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To: tobyhill

Hope Lindsey Grahm has a host of challengers next go-around


2,222 posted on 05/23/2005 7:36:08 PM PDT by madison46 (Would Dems in 1904 be running on ideas from 1835? That's what they do now.)
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To: zook
I guess I'm a fact because you're full of shit.

That kind of language isn't necessary here. If you can't make your point without it, then it isn't that strong to begin with.

2,223 posted on 05/23/2005 7:37:33 PM PDT by You Dirty Rats (Forget Blackwell for Governor! Blackwell for Senate '06!)
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To: Soul Seeker

There are some that are thinking that we are overreacting, but when you have made as many calls and sent as many e-mails as you and I and a lot more have that have been on the threads the last four days...

But I think we have earned the right to feel let down and I dare say, we probably don't feel near as bad as Sen. Frist does right now-- he manuevered this whole day, calling for an all night session, positioning the last four days and calling for the cloture...coming right down to fish or cut bait time, and

John MCCain, comes riding in, doesn't even have the class to talk to you first, announces a compromise and takes all of glory for being COMPROMISE MAN!!!!


2,224 posted on 05/23/2005 7:38:02 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: Soul Seeker

Absolutely ... he's toast! Can you imagine how Frist feels?? Working like a dog, faithful to his principles and his mission .. only to have a turncoat from HIS OWN SIDE totally betray him and make a mockery of all his good and decent efforts? He must be disconsolate .. along with Bush .. although I think Bush is completely furious... actually spitting mad. I do believe this has set Frist's course as the Republican candidate in '008 .. CONSERVATIVES DON'T FORGET!


2,225 posted on 05/23/2005 7:38:17 PM PDT by STARWISE (Is your voice being heard in Washington? You get the govt. you deserve.U.S. CONGRESS: 1-877-762-8762)
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To: guinnessman

McCain could never win the presidency as a Republican. Too many Republicans woudl stay home--why vote for a RAT in a RepublicRAT's uniform?

McCain would switch parties and run as a RAT--that would be his only chance.


2,226 posted on 05/23/2005 7:39:16 PM PDT by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (John Kerry--three fake Purple Hearts. George Bush--one real heart of gold.)
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To: RobFromGa

And you would believe DeWine and Graham now, why???


2,227 posted on 05/23/2005 7:39:21 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: RobFromGa
They might, but they will be cutting their own throats.

After everything they have been saying on the Senate Floor and in pressers .. Do you really think they care?

They know the only way they can control this country is through the courts .. it's all they have left and they will fight till the bitter end to keep the courts

The Democrats need to do what they say or the moderate Republicans will not appreciate being made to look like fools.

The Dems keep making the pubbies look like fools and yet nothing is done about it ...

Do I have to remind you how Rockefeller and other Dems made a fool of Pat Robertson with those Senate Intell Memos??

Oh .. let us also not forget the Judaical Memos that were leak also

2,228 posted on 05/23/2005 7:39:49 PM PDT by Mo1 (Hey GOP ---- Not one Dime till Republicans grow a Spine !!)
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To: Common Tator

Sounds good. Congrats on the new mando.


2,229 posted on 05/23/2005 7:40:01 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (Up or Down on Janice Brown! AND Priscilla Owen!)
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To: madison46
Grahm is one of the Rinos I saw this w/e on the TV circuit that stated that if the subjective wording "extraordinary circumstances" wasn't eliminated from the language he would go nuclear. Well that was one nuclear dud.
2,230 posted on 05/23/2005 7:40:24 PM PDT by tobyhill (The war on terrorism is not for the weak!)
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To: Soul Seeker

And don't forget the Veteran vote---he may be a veteran, like Kerry was, but he called the Swifties, frauds...


2,231 posted on 05/23/2005 7:40:32 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: guinnessman

Interesting:

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a38b1b0dd63af.htm


2,232 posted on 05/23/2005 7:41:49 PM PDT by Fudd Fan (red, red voter in a blue, blue state)
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To: Soul Seeker
Let's put it this way: If the choice in the primaries is Frist or McCain, who do you think has the edge after tonight?

IMHO, McCain eliminated his already pitiful chance to get the Republican nomination. He's made too many enemies.

2,233 posted on 05/23/2005 7:42:54 PM PDT by You Dirty Rats (Forget Blackwell for Governor! Blackwell for Senate '06!)
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To: tobyhill

There are more RINOs as Senate Republicans than there are true conservatives as Senate Republicans.

The Republican'ts are clones of the RATs.


2,234 posted on 05/23/2005 7:43:56 PM PDT by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (John Kerry--three fake Purple Hearts. George Bush--one real heart of gold.)
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To: Txsleuth; STARWISE

IF McCain did this to cut down Frist as a potential '08 candidate?

Then Frist instantaneously becomes my front runner. I will take Frist and ride him to the top of the chain just to create a massive backlash in that RINO's face for this betrayal.

People talk about a Hillary backlash haven't even begun to see the backlash forming against that power hungry fool.


2,235 posted on 05/23/2005 7:44:21 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: Txsleuth

I just e-mailed McCain and told him I will always respect the way he served our country, but as for now I am disappointed and I would never support him for President!


2,236 posted on 05/23/2005 7:44:38 PM PDT by defconw ( Vote Up or Down on Janice Brown!)
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To: You Dirty Rats

I just swithed to c-span 2 to see if the Senate was done for today--and they were showing the press conference again, and the shot of all of those compromisers was a very wimpy looking lot....

I don't think there was enough testosterone in the men to produce enough sperm for one baby--and the women, well, they reminded me of Cinderellas ugly stepsisters...


2,237 posted on 05/23/2005 7:45:57 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: You Dirty Rats

I want to know if Mccain did this to sabotage Frist in '08. I didn't have any favorite, but If he did, I'm becoming the most vocal Frist supporter he's ever had for '08.


2,238 posted on 05/23/2005 7:46:02 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: STARWISE
Can you imagine how Frist feels??

As one who has done a fair amount of negotiating, I assume Frist would have figured this scenario as a likely outcome of his efforts.

This senate debate as been likened to a war. When leading up to a war, you make a threat that is believable while also pursuing other means to a remedy. A good negotiator knows that when he uses power, he creates the atmosphere for compromise, so long as the parties are rational.

We have observed the gathering of two armies poised to fight for the castle. One army withdrew today, undefeated. Can the fight again? Yes. Will they? Probably not.

2,239 posted on 05/23/2005 7:46:45 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Deo et Patria
If the GOP does pull the nuclear option off, I wonder whether Bill Frist will be getting any apologies from the FReepers who bashed him incessantly throughout this ordeal? In my opinion, Frist has shown a lot of backbone throughout this process, in the face of tremendous pressure from the obstructionist libs and the MSM. He deserves to be commended (and apologized to) if he can finish this off.

I guess those bashers won't be eating any crow tonite.

2,240 posted on 05/23/2005 7:48:37 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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