Gary Bauer Calls Senate Judicial Deal a 'Sell Out'

US Newswire ^ | 5/23/05 | Kristi Hamrick

[the Real fifi]

Sleep on it--I think it is better than you think.

[onyx]

Here's my take:


Extraordinary circumstances = pro life; pro gun ownership

extreme = a trail (however short) of conservative judicial opinions;

Acceptable attributes: pro abortion; gay rights and anti 2nd Amendment

[Altair333]

"1.If we got 3 out of 10 judges, it is a bad deal. If we end up with 6 or 7 of the 10 it will could be an ok deal."

We got at least 6. Reid was quoted as predicting that the 3 Michigan nominees to the sixth circuit would be easily approved. They've been stalled for years now by the blue slip exercised by Michigan's senators, so it's clear that these 3 Michigan nominees were an unspoken part of the deal.

So the 6th circuit court of appeals just became a strongly conservative court overnight.

[Natural Law]

No doubt about it. The RNC has received the last penny from me until they can demonstrate that party means something. I am holding the leadership to blame. Has anyone heard a single word from Mitch McConnell the Majority "Whip"? Somebody needs to whip his a$$ in the steps of the capitol building as an example.

[all_views]

keep in mind I am a liberal. You folks won on the filibuster. Not only do you have four judges in, but have the right to bring up the filibuster issue again.

Personally, I could care less about if they get rid of the filibuster itself, than I do about the dems selling
out by just passing on Priscilla Owen, Janice Rogers Brown, and William Pryor. Not even fighting for principle, win or lose says everything about the dems

you should celebrate, most of the liberals are not very happy by this deal

[Racehorse]

Oh, please---

ROFLMO

You need to reflect on this just a wee bit more.

The Reps got their candidates a vote; the Dems set a standard for "exceptional cirsumstances" which wipes out their litmus test; the Reps have the nuclear option and a good justification for using it if the Dems renege

The Repubs got a few of their candidates an up or down vote . . . maybe.  Others are left twisting in the wind..  Wait till the spinners spin just what constitutes exceptional circumstances.

Exceptional circumstances?  What is this standard you're talking about?

[hispanichoosier]

Thanks for posting the reactions on DU. Here's another:

This agreement is about a bunch of of senators wanting to avoid a showdown.

We can filibuster later; but if we do, they can go nuclear later.

Nothing has changed, except that they got their judges, and for now, the sky hasn't totally fallen in on us.

I'm angry, because I believe if it had come to a showdown, Frist would have lost OUTRIGHT.

[Altair333]

I should say the 3 Michigan nominees other than Saad- he's a loser in this deal, but if Bush moves quickly he can get another conservative nominee to take his place in short order.

We need to move FAST- and any conservative judges who have been thinking of retiring need to do so now so we can nominate their replacements and get them confirmed.

This will prove to be a pretty good deal if Bush plays his cards right.

[onyx]

Furthermore, Lindsay said tonight to Chris Matthews, that the cabal of 14 will get together whenever Bush submits a nominee... so that "they" can decide for the other 86.

Now, THAT'S a power grab, and now, what damn use is the Senate's Judiciary Committee?

[all_views]

funny, I feel the same way about the DNC, for exactly the same reasons

[Ahban]

John 2:15

"And He made a scrouge of cords, and drove them all out of the temple.....and poured out the coins of the moneychangers, and overturned their tables."

Revelations 14:20

"And the winepress was trodden outside the city, and blood came up out of the winepress, as deep as a horse's bridle, for a distance of about 200 miles."

[JLS]

I heard Reid say the Michigan Judges would get a vote, but then I think he backed off on Saad. But then one of the "Michigan" judges is from Ohio and that appeals court is in Cincy so the details are a bit muddled.

Still if we get six or seven, no further filibusters until a couple of more Dims go down in reelection battles, ie Nelson and Nelson, and the GOP either later changes the judicial filibuster rule or filibusters the first slightly leftist nominee of the next Dim president, then this is a deal I can live with. It is just that it will be a long time before we know for sure unless the Dims try to not live up to the deal this Congress and the GOP has the guts to call them on it.

[Noachian]

and the signatories of this agreement NEED TO BE MADE TO UNDERSTAND THEY HAVE PROMISED US TO SUPPORT SUCH A FILIBUSTER.

Have politicians ever been known to break a promise?

Republicans got nothing from this deal that they couldn't have gotten by cutting off the filibuster. This was no horse trade -- it was a give away.

[ZULU]

This is a Constitutional issue.

ANYONE who bargains away Constituional rights is a traitor.

[TeatimeTim]

21
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into
the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father
which is in heaven.
22
Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not
prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils?
and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23
And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart
from me, ye that work iniquity.

[all_views]

we are saying the same thing about the republicans on DU, in regard to "exceptional cirsumstances"

[montag813]

The alien speaks..."To Serve Man...it's a COOKBOOK!"

[clintonh8r]

Let's all just settle down a little and allow the electorate to continue to sort this all out.

We thought that's what we did last November.

[ZULU]

This is a Constitutional issue.

ANYONE who bargains away Constituional rights is a traitor.

[the Real fifi]

Even the NYT calls it a "modest victory for Bush" LOL