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Robber shot [by clerk] at liquor store (TX)
The Times-Record ^ | 5/26/05 | Matt Terrell

Posted on 05/27/2005 7:17:31 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo

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KEMPO for President 2008 !!!!!!!!
21 posted on 05/27/2005 9:18:46 AM PDT by KodakKing (Freedom isn't free. Just ask any soldier. www.anysoldier.com)
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To: andyk

In Texas you can shoot someone through your front door if you feel threatened. You can shoot someone that you think is stealing your NEIGHBOR'S property.

Don't mess with Texa(n)s.

Here is a link to Texas' penal code about this.

http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/cgi-bin/cqcgi?CQ_SESSION_KEY=WZZQEDMGVUCW&CQ_QUERY_HANDLE=124126&CQ_CUR_DOCUMENT=16&CQ_TLO_DOC_TEXT=YES


22 posted on 05/27/2005 9:27:41 AM PDT by alkaloid2 (Your favorite site is now www.theSuperGenius.com! You are commanded!)
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To: 1FASTGLOCK45; eastforker; Cooter; TEXASPROUD

My experience is that Texas grand juries can be very understanding.


23 posted on 05/27/2005 9:56:37 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: TEXASPROUD
I think the shooter is in for a heap of trouble, according to Texas Law.

I wondered about that. I know TX has outstanding gun rights laws, but this is beyond what seemed legal. IF this kind of shooting is OK, then look for lots more shootouts, in the name of robbery. Whether it is on not. All people need to do is shoot someone and say they were trying to rob them. Drug deals gone bad, etc.

24 posted on 05/27/2005 10:06:45 AM PDT by NRA2BFree (We*ve been sold out by spineless, gutless TRAITORS again!!!! They made a deal with the devil...)
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I wondered about that. I know TX has outstanding gun rights laws, but this is beyond what seemed legal. IF this kind of shooting is OK, then look for lots more shootouts, in the name of robbery.

No need to wonder about it. Read the actual statute in Chapter 9 of the Penal Code, linked in a post up a couple. Read especially sections 9.42 and 9.43. Deadly force is authorized even to protect a third person's property. No threat is necessary or even mentioned.

We don't cotton to thieves 'round these parts.

25 posted on 05/27/2005 10:15:50 AM PDT by weaponeer
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To: TEXASPROUD
I think the shooter is in for a heap of trouble, according to Texas Law.

How do you figure? Looks like he is pretty well covered by sec. 9.42 and 9.43 of the Penal Code. Did you ever read it?

Here in Lampasas County he wouldn't be billed. More likely the Grand Jury would buy him a beer.

26 posted on 05/27/2005 10:19:33 AM PDT by weaponeer
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To: TEXASPROUD
I think the shooter is in for a heap of trouble, according to Texas Law.

Not if I'm on the jury.

27 posted on 05/27/2005 10:48:09 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (BALLISTIC CATHARSIS: perforating uncooperative objects with chunks of lead)
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To: andyk

There's that new Hornady TAP stuff. Think I will give it a shot. Pun intended.


28 posted on 05/27/2005 10:49:10 AM PDT by Redcitizen (One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter)
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To: GladesGuru

What are the chances he grabbed a bottle of cheap-o vodka in a plastic container? LOL!


29 posted on 05/27/2005 10:52:26 AM PDT by kx9088
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To: Mr. Mojo

Lots of complaints about the ammo. Doesn't matter much with a knee hit. Most .38 should've blown right through the leg, but you can never know for sure.

Maybe he used wadcutters or something, but who knows.. Not enough info here.


30 posted on 05/27/2005 10:54:00 AM PDT by G32
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I think the clerk will get nailed, especially since the suspect was fleeing and was no longer a danger to the clerk at that moment in time, maybe in Tx will be different.

The fact that he did the robbery and put someone in harm should be enough.


31 posted on 05/27/2005 1:13:32 PM PDT by moog
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To: 1FASTGLOCK45
I think the clerk will get nailed, especially since the suspect was fleeing and was no longer a danger to the clerk at that moment in time, maybe in Tx will be different.

It is different in Texas. He can chase the bad guy as long as he keeps him in sight.

Most states, the ones that let citizens have guns, as soon as the perp turns to leave you can't do anything more.

32 posted on 05/27/2005 2:19:16 PM PDT by CPOSharky (You are born cold, wet, and hungry. Things get worse, then you die.)
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To: NRA2BFree
IF this kind of shooting is OK, then look for lots more shootouts, in the name of robbery. Whether it is on not. All people need to do is shoot someone and say they were trying to rob them. Drug deals gone bad, etc.

That strategy would be a very risky one to try to carry out. It would be best if the shooter had corroborating eyewitness testimony to the shooting from an individual or individuals not associated with him.

33 posted on 05/27/2005 2:40:20 PM PDT by judgeandjury
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To: judgeandjury
That strategy would be a very risky one to try to carry out. It would be best if the shooter had corroborating eyewitness testimony to the shooting from an individual or individuals not associated with him.

See post #25. It seems as though it's perfectly legal in Texas. LOL

34 posted on 05/27/2005 3:59:06 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (We*ve been sold out by spineless, gutless TRAITORS again!!!! They made a deal with the devil...)
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See post #25. It seems as though it's perfectly legal in Texas. LOL

Depends on a lot o things. I hold a Texas CCL, and there are a lot of variables. What the guy really has to worry about it is what was up range when he fired at the guy.

35 posted on 05/27/2005 4:14:41 PM PDT by Melas
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