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Robber shot [by clerk] at liquor store (TX)
The Times-Record ^ | 5/26/05 | Matt Terrell

Posted on 05/27/2005 7:17:31 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo

A clerk at Mike's Liquor on Kemp Boulevard shot a fleeing robber in the leg after chasing him into the street and being threatened with a stolen liquor bottle, Wichita Falls police said.

The suspect, with a bullet lodged above his knee, managed to keep running, dodge another bullet and escape the clerk, darting into a nearby neighborhood, Sgt. Van Dotson said. The wounded suspect was found at a home on Buchanan Street and arrested.

The incident started some time after 6:30 p.m., witnesses said. A man entered Mike's Liquor, picked up a bottle and ran out without paying, police said.

The clerk chased him into the middle of Buchanan wielding a .38-caliber revolver. Witnesses heard the clerk yelling at the suspect, telling him to put the bottle down or he'd shoot if he had to.

The suspect raised the bottle over his head in a threatening manner, several witnesses told police.

"He (the clerk) shot him once in the back of leg," Dotson said. "The bullet almost came out the front of the knee."

The suspect put the bottle down but kept running.

"He never hit the ground and just grabbed his leg," said Donald Brownlee, one of three employees at the Kemp Taco Mayo who watched the chase and shooting from the restaurant's windows. "That's all adrenaline there. I can't believe he kept running."

The clerk shot one more time but missed as the suspect ran through the Taco Mayo parking lot. Brownlee said he heard the bullet ricochet off a nearby building.

The suspect ran into the nearby neighborhood. Dotson said he walked up to a resident's house asking for medical attention. He said the residents there helped him and called an ambulance. He was transported to United Regional Health Care System's 11th Street campus for non-life- threatening injures.

"He must've really wanted that liquor," said Adam Sivils, another employee at the Taco Mayo. "I've never seen anything like that."

The suspect faces possible robbery charges, Dotson said. The clerk was not arrested, but his actions could be investigated by the district attorney's office.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Texas
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To: kempo
KEMPO for President 2008 !!!!!!!!
21 posted on 05/27/2005 9:18:46 AM PDT by KodakKing (Freedom isn't free. Just ask any soldier. www.anysoldier.com)
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To: andyk

In Texas you can shoot someone through your front door if you feel threatened. You can shoot someone that you think is stealing your NEIGHBOR'S property.

Don't mess with Texa(n)s.

Here is a link to Texas' penal code about this.

http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/cgi-bin/cqcgi?CQ_SESSION_KEY=WZZQEDMGVUCW&CQ_QUERY_HANDLE=124126&CQ_CUR_DOCUMENT=16&CQ_TLO_DOC_TEXT=YES


22 posted on 05/27/2005 9:27:41 AM PDT by alkaloid2 (Your favorite site is now www.theSuperGenius.com! You are commanded!)
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To: 1FASTGLOCK45; eastforker; Cooter; TEXASPROUD

My experience is that Texas grand juries can be very understanding.


23 posted on 05/27/2005 9:56:37 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: TEXASPROUD
I think the shooter is in for a heap of trouble, according to Texas Law.

I wondered about that. I know TX has outstanding gun rights laws, but this is beyond what seemed legal. IF this kind of shooting is OK, then look for lots more shootouts, in the name of robbery. Whether it is on not. All people need to do is shoot someone and say they were trying to rob them. Drug deals gone bad, etc.

24 posted on 05/27/2005 10:06:45 AM PDT by NRA2BFree (We*ve been sold out by spineless, gutless TRAITORS again!!!! They made a deal with the devil...)
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To: NRA2BFree
I wondered about that. I know TX has outstanding gun rights laws, but this is beyond what seemed legal. IF this kind of shooting is OK, then look for lots more shootouts, in the name of robbery.

No need to wonder about it. Read the actual statute in Chapter 9 of the Penal Code, linked in a post up a couple. Read especially sections 9.42 and 9.43. Deadly force is authorized even to protect a third person's property. No threat is necessary or even mentioned.

We don't cotton to thieves 'round these parts.

25 posted on 05/27/2005 10:15:50 AM PDT by weaponeer
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To: TEXASPROUD
I think the shooter is in for a heap of trouble, according to Texas Law.

How do you figure? Looks like he is pretty well covered by sec. 9.42 and 9.43 of the Penal Code. Did you ever read it?

Here in Lampasas County he wouldn't be billed. More likely the Grand Jury would buy him a beer.

26 posted on 05/27/2005 10:19:33 AM PDT by weaponeer
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To: TEXASPROUD
I think the shooter is in for a heap of trouble, according to Texas Law.

Not if I'm on the jury.

27 posted on 05/27/2005 10:48:09 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (BALLISTIC CATHARSIS: perforating uncooperative objects with chunks of lead)
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To: andyk

There's that new Hornady TAP stuff. Think I will give it a shot. Pun intended.


28 posted on 05/27/2005 10:49:10 AM PDT by Redcitizen (One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter)
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To: GladesGuru

What are the chances he grabbed a bottle of cheap-o vodka in a plastic container? LOL!


29 posted on 05/27/2005 10:52:26 AM PDT by kx9088
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To: Mr. Mojo

Lots of complaints about the ammo. Doesn't matter much with a knee hit. Most .38 should've blown right through the leg, but you can never know for sure.

Maybe he used wadcutters or something, but who knows.. Not enough info here.


30 posted on 05/27/2005 10:54:00 AM PDT by G32
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I think the clerk will get nailed, especially since the suspect was fleeing and was no longer a danger to the clerk at that moment in time, maybe in Tx will be different.

The fact that he did the robbery and put someone in harm should be enough.


31 posted on 05/27/2005 1:13:32 PM PDT by moog
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To: 1FASTGLOCK45
I think the clerk will get nailed, especially since the suspect was fleeing and was no longer a danger to the clerk at that moment in time, maybe in Tx will be different.

It is different in Texas. He can chase the bad guy as long as he keeps him in sight.

Most states, the ones that let citizens have guns, as soon as the perp turns to leave you can't do anything more.

32 posted on 05/27/2005 2:19:16 PM PDT by CPOSharky (You are born cold, wet, and hungry. Things get worse, then you die.)
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To: NRA2BFree
IF this kind of shooting is OK, then look for lots more shootouts, in the name of robbery. Whether it is on not. All people need to do is shoot someone and say they were trying to rob them. Drug deals gone bad, etc.

That strategy would be a very risky one to try to carry out. It would be best if the shooter had corroborating eyewitness testimony to the shooting from an individual or individuals not associated with him.

33 posted on 05/27/2005 2:40:20 PM PDT by judgeandjury
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To: judgeandjury
That strategy would be a very risky one to try to carry out. It would be best if the shooter had corroborating eyewitness testimony to the shooting from an individual or individuals not associated with him.

See post #25. It seems as though it's perfectly legal in Texas. LOL

34 posted on 05/27/2005 3:59:06 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (We*ve been sold out by spineless, gutless TRAITORS again!!!! They made a deal with the devil...)
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To: NRA2BFree
See post #25. It seems as though it's perfectly legal in Texas. LOL

Depends on a lot o things. I hold a Texas CCL, and there are a lot of variables. What the guy really has to worry about it is what was up range when he fired at the guy.

35 posted on 05/27/2005 4:14:41 PM PDT by Melas
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