[Bob Mc]

It's not just leftist liberals who want to thrust more government control on us. Plenty of people who consider themselves "conservatives" (even religious conservatives), are supporting such Nanny state ideas.

[SheLion]

It's not just leftist liberals who want to thrust more government control on us. Plenty of people who consider themselves "conservatives" (even religious conservatives), are supporting such Nanny state ideas.

Oh yes!  We see it more everyday.  The RINO lawmakers sticking it to us.  It's gotten way out of hand!

It's not just leftist liberals who want to thrust more government control on us. Plenty of people who consider themselves "conservatives" (even religious conservatives), are supporting such Nanny state ideas.

Oh yes!  We see it more everyday.  The RINO lawmakers sticking it to us.  It's gotten way out of hand!

[The Foolkiller]

It's not just leftist liberals who want to thrust more government control on us. Plenty of people who consider themselves "conservatives" (even religious conservatives), are supporting such Nanny state ideas.

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All you have to do to realize that is to read some of the posts at FR. I remember years ago-when the now-defunct National Smokers Alliance was first starting to grow (before the tobacco companies sold us out, too). A guy was taking signatures on a petition outside a store in Toledo. My friend & I signed it, then were finishing our cigarettes, when an older couple approached the entrance. They were wearing campaign buttons for several of the local Republican candidates for various offices, and had money falling out their asses. You could just tell. Probably in their mid-60's, dressed to the teeth. Also noticed they had an anti-abortion bumper sticker on their car. The guy explained to them the purpose of the petition was to fight tax increases & bans directed against smokers. They then began to deride the guy, and said no way would they sign something like that. The guy said: "Don't you believe in freedom, Sir?" His reply: "Not where smokers are concerned." They then went inside. I'm sure he's long dead by now, but I'll never forget that statement as long as I live. Can't. See pretty much the same statement here quite a bit.

[mabelkitty]

Just because one identifies themselves as religious or Christian doesn't necessarily make them so.

The religious institutions are beginning to rot from within and the sheep (meant in the theological sense) refuse to acknowledge it.