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Why do they hate us? (Why Any Sane Person Hates Liberal Journalists)
Aljazeera ^ | 30 May 2005 | Sandy Shanks

Posted on 05/30/2005 4:49:03 PM PDT by Cornpone

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To: AmericanArchConservative
This clown can't even give a proper quote. Two seconds on Google got: "Those who ignore the past are condemned to repeat it." Santayana
Is my memory bad, or didn't the Israelis take their country away from the British (then called Aden) at gunpoint? Seems to me that was when Moishe Dyan lost his eye. Wasn't there a movie about that conflict? Something called "EXODUS" ?
21 posted on 05/30/2005 5:44:50 PM PDT by AntiBurr ("You cannot play the song of freedom on an instrument of oppression"--S.J. Lec)
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To: Cornpone
Whenever the terror apologists want to justify their atrocities, they reach deep into the pages of history to find [drum roll] The Crusades! However, the Third Crusade ended somewhere in the 13th Century.

You don't have to look nearly that far back to find evidence of Muslim atrocities. Sept. 11, 2001 will suffice.

22 posted on 05/30/2005 6:03:59 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: Cornpone

This article couldn't be stightly biased could it? Not from Al Jezeera, the most honest and forthright news organization on the planet?


23 posted on 05/30/2005 6:10:14 PM PDT by vpintheak (Liberal = The antithesis of Freedom and Patriotism)
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To: Cornpone

Sandy needs to ask a more pertinent question.

The question should be: "Why don't they give a rat's behind?"


24 posted on 05/30/2005 6:37:54 PM PDT by OpusatFR (I live in a swamp and reuse, recycle, refurbish, grow my own, ride a bike and vote gop)
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To: Cornpone

"Once again, history becomes a casualty. Never in the history of mankind has democracy flourished at the point of a gun."

1. Germany.
2. Japan.

"Sandy Shanks" sounds like a good candidate for one of Jay Leno's "Jaywalking" segments.


25 posted on 05/30/2005 7:00:27 PM PDT by Ruadh (Liberty is not a means to a political end. It is itself the highest political end. — LORD ACTON)
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They hate us because they hate Jesus. These deluded sad souls live a life of hatred, much like the hatred spawn of many of the liberal idealogies. They, the Fundamental Islamists wish the Christians and the Jews to be dead, and are fed lies of Hatred from a young age. Christianity and Judiaism are about love and I wish the Light to come to the Middle east and lay aside the great lier that pretends to be the prophet of God.


26 posted on 05/30/2005 7:03:06 PM PDT by Jbuza
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To: Valin

>> You will starve to death if you are not able to sell your oil!<<

With all due respect to both you and Friedman, crude oil is fungible. This simple truth means that any oil pumped by the Saudis competes in the world market for price and availablity. To cut off their funding, their oil wells must be plugged. Anything less and they get money for oil.

This fact is ignored by advocates in the US of "reducing dependency on foreign oil". Either those advocates are ignorant or they have another agenda. I suspect a little of both because their plans always seem to include higher taxes and reduced liberty.

Indeed, an editorial in the recent National Review, "Alternative-Fuel Nonsense", outlines plans by a group called Set America Free to help US drivers conserve by setting the price of gasoline at $4.00/gallon.

And just who will get the use of this Social Security-like river of tax revenue to use on their own pet projects was not made clear.

(ref: http://www.nationalreview.com/nrof_comment/reynolds200505270855.asp)

From the editorial:

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But the process of replacing older vehicles with ethanol-fueled plug-in hybrids would move with glacial slowness, and would not shrink global oil demand enough to collapse oil prices. That is why Friedman proposes to further decrease demand by raising U.S. taxes high enough to keep gasoline above $4 a gallon regardless of the price of crude. In practice, this would simply mean that we would pay much more for gasoline so other nations could pay less.

Even if world oil did fall back to $18 a barrel, as Friedman would like, there would be no incentive for Asia or Europe to economize on oil use at all, nor for anyone to supply or demand expensive alternatives. Besides, the price of oil was below $18 nearly all the time from February 1986 to June 1999 — falling as low as $11 at the end of 1998 and remaining below $20 through the end of 2001. Yet cheap oil did nothing to promote economic or political liberty in Algeria, Iran, or anywhere else. This theory has been tested — and it failed completely.
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And the theory that changing oil purchases from states sponsoring radical Islamists will change their interest in funding their jihad against the infidel has been equally tested and is an equal failure.

If the US did not import a drop of oil from any source, does anyone rationally believe that the Islamists will stop trying to achieve the reward of a jihadist by destroying the country they call the Great Satan?

ROFL! Indeed, if we go back to the afternoon of 9/11/2001 and recall the reasons the Islamists themselves gave for that attack, they listed four:

1) Western culture was eroding the appeal of Islam to Arab youth;

2) US support of Israel;

3) US troops on "holy soil", meaning US military bases in Saudi Arabia;

4) Western hegimony precluded the Islamic world from taking its rightful place as a world power.

Not a single mention of the ever-popular "poverty" or "dispair" that so easily rolls off the tongue of the MSM as reasons for "hatred".

Osama Bin Laden himself tells us this in his 1996 "Declaration of War Against the Americans Occupying the Land of the Two Holy Places." This fatwa is printed for everyone to read at www.mideastweb.org/osamabinladen1.htm.

see also:
http://www.gcc.edu/news/faculty/editorials/vantil_binladen_8_3_04.htm

Where this author sums up bin Laden's fatwa and the reason he "hates" the west and the US in particular:

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To sum up: Bin Laden is at war with the United States because it intruded into the holy land and later invaded sacred Iraq. These actions, condemned in the Qur’an he says, were sufficient cause for him to take up arms against the United States.
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It has nothing to do with anything other than who the US is. It is either them or us. Bin Laden and those who follow him have sworn it. Only the useful idots in the West try to deny it.


27 posted on 05/30/2005 8:03:11 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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Shanks is basically an anti semite it appears...one of those Ritter fans - a loser and ignorant about the history of islamic terror. An atrocious writer too.

The money angle should not overlooked either.


28 posted on 05/30/2005 9:12:59 PM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: Cornpone

Agreed. This guys view of history includes blinders.


30 posted on 05/31/2005 12:35:24 AM PDT by Bob J (RIGHTALK.com...a conservative alternative to NPR!)
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To: Cornpone; Salem; SJackson; Alouette; IAF ThunderPilot; Yehuda; Nachum; malakhi; Bombardier; ...

Cornpone's summary of this article is great! Well done, Cornpone!

Mr. Shanks may have a personal problem in that he clearly is not getting enough bran in his diet and his thinking mechanism is clogged!



31 posted on 05/31/2005 7:06:14 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (tired of all the shucking and jiving)
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32 posted on 05/31/2005 7:35:29 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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Re: "Crusades: After the Seljuk Turks took control of the eastern Mediterranean lands (now known as Palestine) and Mesopotamia (Iraq), Pope Urban II launched the First Crusade to gain control of the Holy Land in 1096. The Western army created four colonies, including one in Jerusalem. Using the euphemism, crusaders, European armies continued their pious invasions of the Middle East (applying the modern term), the last major incursion, the Fourth Crusade, taking place in 1204, at which time the "crusaders" plundered Constantinople (Istanbul). The vast majority of Americans are clueless regarding the past of faraway lands, as well as their own. The Seljuk Turks were followed by the Mongol empire (1219 to 1500), and the Mongols were replaced by the Ottoman Turks during the 1500s. At the height of the Ottoman empire, 1566, their control over Arab lands stretched from Mesopotamia through the Holy Land into North Africa from Egypt to Tunisia."

Once again BM (Big Media) gets it wrong. No mention of the Islamic hords invading CHRISTIAN Egypt, all of CHRISTIAN North Africa, CHRISTIAN Iberian Peninsula (Spain and Portugal for those of you in Rio Linda) all the way to Tours France (the middle of present day France folks). All this by 703 (or is it 730?) No it all started with that dad-burn Pope nearly 400 years later.

No mention of the Turks sacking of Vienna in mid 1500's. No it was all Western and Christian aggression that is the root of the problem. //sarcasm off//

It seems this jerk has even less of an understanding of history than many so what is he complaining about?
33 posted on 05/31/2005 1:46:11 PM PDT by Mark in the Old South (Sister Lucia of Fatima pray for us)
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