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I'm beginning to suspect the white slave trade in this.

Aruba isn't that big, and is so tourist friendly that hiding an act like this is difficult.

1 posted on 06/06/2005 4:17:14 PM PDT by Lokibob
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To: Lokibob
I'm beginning to suspect the white slave trade in this.

From the first day she was missing, and I saw her picture, I figured one of two things happened. She was either on her way to the middle east, or she was dead. I sure hope I'm wrong.
2 posted on 06/06/2005 4:19:25 PM PDT by andyk (Go Matt Kenseth!)
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To: Lokibob
here's to all the nice American moms and dads that raise their children to be so 'color blind' to the point of not being able to exercise due caution when due caution is called for.
Especially curious from an Alabaman .
4 posted on 06/06/2005 5:42:03 PM PDT by injin
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To: Lokibob

Local TV here (AK) reporting an FBI dive team has been called in.


6 posted on 06/06/2005 6:09:31 PM PDT by ASOC (Clever tagline goes here:)
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To: Lokibob
I'm beginning to suspect the white slave trade in this.

That's exactly what I've thought. She's been drugged and smuggled to who knows where. It's not that uncommon, it happens in the US as well. They end up in snuf films, or "Shanghied" to a foreign country--missing persons when no body shows up, it even happens with children. There's lots of smugglers in Aruba, too.

7 posted on 06/06/2005 6:11:44 PM PDT by FrdmLvr
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I was out of town and lost a bit of information on this story. Was the girl not missed until time to get on the plane to go back home? Did she not have a room mate who would have noticed that she was not in the room in the morning? She left with three guys and was supposedly returned to the hotel by two different men?


8 posted on 06/06/2005 6:45:12 PM PDT by mel
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There are far too many things which are not connecting in this story. For one thing this girl is not the type to go have consensual sex with three men. Today I found a letter from a mother of one the girls mother who was there when Natalie left. The letter follows below.

http://bb.visitaruba.com/showthread.php?t=2244&page=2&pp=25

Elaine,

That is the part that is confusing to me, too. The newspaper report is different from what I heard from my daughter.

My daughter ACTUALLY WITNESSED Natalee right outside the entrance to Carlos & Charlie's at around 1:00 a.m. Monday morning. (The paper says she left at 1:30.) My daughter was leaving the bar with two friends, and they were right behind another group. She called to Natalee and asked if she wanted to walk with them (I forget now if my daughter was headed to the hotel or the bar across the street; I think the latter). Natalee cheerfully said no, she would catch up to the group right ahead and walk with them (implying she would be along in a few moments). My daughter had no idea she would not see Natalee again.

This part my daughter didn't see, but was told by her friends: That Natalie passed them on the road a short while later, and that she was a passenger in a taxi with another person. She clearly did not know she was in danger; she leaned out the window and shouted something like "Aruba!!! WOOHOO!" Still having a wonderful time.

I have read and heard other versions since then -- that she was actually seen getting in a car with three men; that she was alone with the guy in his car; that it was a grey car; that it has been impounded by the police. I don't know which is the accurate account.

The kids she passed assumed she was headed back to the hotel complex. No one thought there was any danger; obviously Natalee did not think so either.

That's the only bit I know was witnessed by my daughter or her other friends. But it is agreed that the guy misrepresented himself, and that she got in willingly. Also, I assume everyone in the bar had been drinking, but none of those who passed Natalee had the impression that Natalee was falling-down-drunk or anything like that. I mean to say, probably she had been drinking and wasn't exercising good judgement, but she wasn't bad off enough to cause concern, or someone with the group would have taken her back to the hotel. There were chaperones there, the kids were of legal drinking age, and no one realized there was any danger.

I'll post if I hear any more news, and now that the media is covering this, I'll very much appreciate reading anything that you guys find out.

Thanks, all!
9 posted on 06/06/2005 6:55:27 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: Lokibob
Police spokesman Edwin Comemencia said that authorities have not ruled out the possibility that other people are involved.
20 posted on 06/06/2005 8:56:12 PM PDT by MarMema
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``We want to keep Aruba's name good.

Forgive me for my ignorance, but were/what the Hell is Aruba? Furthermore I was told this is a place where one can have a good time and get laid to boot!

It is that true?

21 posted on 06/06/2005 8:59:16 PM PDT by danmar ("No person is so grand or wise or perfect as to be the master of another person." Karl Hess)
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>Aruba isn't that big, and is so tourist friendly that hiding an act like this is difficult

My brother and his
wife take trips around the globe.
Recently, they both

told me that their sense
is that any where that's near
Venezuela

is a place no one
from America should be.
It's hard to believe

parents of school kids
would allow their children to
visit such a place.

(Although, I would guess,
parents in today's world
wouldn't have a clue

that Aruba is
close to Columbia and
Venezuela.)

33 posted on 06/07/2005 7:48:24 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba

Monday Search Failed To Uncover Clues To Holloway's Disappearance

ORANJESTAD, Aruba -- Another family said they know exactly what the parents of Natalee Holloway, the Alabama teenager who has been missing in Aruba since last week, are going through. They've been dealing with the same nightmare for seven years.

The Bradleys, of Virginia, went on a cruise in 1998 and Aruba was one of the stops. That's where their daughter disappeared.

Iva Bradley said her 23-year-old daughter, Amy, befriended three men who worked on the cruise ship and they wanted to take her to a bar in Aruba.

"They said they wanted to take her to a bar on Aruba that was called Carlos and Charlie's," said Bradley. "She made a face and said 'I wouldn't get off the ship with any of those guys anyway. That's creepy.'"...

Link to Full Article

Hmmmmmm....incident from seven years ago...and there is a tie-in with the same "Carlos and Charlie's" bar. Sounds like more than a coincidence to me.

44 posted on 06/07/2005 1:42:05 PM PDT by all4one (www.missingkids.com)
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