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Federalism, Up in Smoke?
NRO ^ | June 07, 2005 | Jonathan H. Adler

Posted on 06/07/2005 1:41:26 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: neverdem
After a few years of pushback on federal legislation that very specifically tries to regulate state stuff, SCOTUS starts rewarding overreaching federal regulation as long as it is sweeping in the way it is justified, interstate commerce-wise.

What message does that send?

21 posted on 06/07/2005 3:00:49 PM PDT by NutCrackerBoy
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To: neverdem

Federalism died along time ago.

This Nation has been on the downward slide for a long time, and the end is in sight.


22 posted on 06/07/2005 3:02:51 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: keat
This case was hopelessly dreadlocked for years.

Jah, bashy mon! Dat's a funny, a true. Me a go toke now.


23 posted on 06/07/2005 3:21:53 PM PDT by rdb3 (Yeah, but what's it spelled backwards?)
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To: neverdem
You're not alone. O'Connor regained some sanity. Scalia lost his. Kennedy is out to lunch as usual.

That pretty well sums it up for me, too.

So, why did we need an 18th Amendment prohibiting "intoxicating liquors" which must surely have some effect on interstate commerce, given the majority's line of reasoning? (And the 22nd Amendment repealing the 18th was also unnecessary, no?)

24 posted on 06/07/2005 3:44:56 PM PDT by nonsporting
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To: Dead Corpse; mugs99; blackie; tpaine; JohnHuang2; traviskicks; Texas Federalist; clee1; ...
The War on Drugs and Gun Control

Connecting the War on Guns & Drugs

The war on guns

Thank you for the reminder! This is also why we don't want a Second Amendment case before this SCOTUS.

25 posted on 06/07/2005 3:51:16 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem
"Such a regulation, she argued, was not a valid exercise of the federal commerce power."

Why did she argue this case as a commerce power issue?

Why did she not argue you the case as an Amendment IX right?

What a coincidence that it was 40 years ago today that the Supreme Court struck down a state law prohibiting the use of a contraceptive by a woman, a consenting opinion cited Amendment IX as the constitutional basis for the nullification.

What is the difference between a chemical for contraception or for pain? It is a personal, fundamental right and decision, "retained by the people," for free people to make for themselves, not for their government to make for them.

Yes, maybe it can be "regulated" for safety reasons, but it can not be "prohibited."

Remember it took a constitutional amendment to ban alcohol, why does it not take a constitutional amendment to ban marijuana?

The commerce clause power cannot violate the Bill of Rights, otherwise Congress could "regulate" the content of newspapers, which Amendment I clearly prohibits.

I cannot wait for Judges Owens and Rogers-Clark to start on the federal bench to start the reversal of these current decisions repugnant and at odds with the clear textual language of the constitution protecting our rights.

26 posted on 06/07/2005 3:58:18 PM PDT by tahiti
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To: nonsporting; Abram; Annie03; Baby Bear; bassmaner; Bernard; BJClinton; BlackbirdSST; blackeagle; ...
Well, the 18th Amendment was because...well, you know...because...

Freepatriot32's Libertarian Ping List

27 posted on 06/07/2005 4:02:20 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (<-- sick of faux-conservatives who want federal government intervention for 'conservative things.')
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To: neverdem

28 posted on 06/07/2005 4:23:58 PM PDT by El Conservador ("No blood for oil!"... Then don't drive, you moron!!!)
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To: Redcloak
Can someone explain to me how a substance grown, transported, and consumed entirely within the borders of the State of California is a Federal matter?

Because our Masters, The Supreme Court say so.
I'm really disgusted with Scalia. He doesn't deserve to be the chief justice.
29 posted on 06/07/2005 4:29:42 PM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: LibertarianInExile; All
Notice that all 3 dissenting justices were appointed by Republicans while both Clinton appointees concurred with the majority.

"If you support the war on drugs in its present form, then you're only paying lip-service to the defense of freedom, and you don't really grasp the concept of the sovereign individual human being."   and (on the "Cutie-Pie & Holmes" show):"Sean, you're afraid of freedom!"
"I told Bob Barr right here on the air that if I had a sick and dying loved one, and he stood in the way of my bringing some medical marijuana to her to relieve her pain, that I would personally kick his ass.  I don't know of anyone else who ever said that on the air to a prominent politician before." -- Neal Boortz, HERE

30 posted on 06/07/2005 4:53:45 PM PDT by FreeKeys ("You have to ask yourself, 'Who owns me? Do I own myself or am I just govt property?'"- Neal Boortz)
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To: Redcloak

Because the Feds say it is! Now quit picking on them.


31 posted on 06/07/2005 5:12:04 PM PDT by B4Ranch ( Report every illegal alien that you meet. Call 866-347-2423, Employers use 888-464-4218)
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To: rdb3
Make sure your painters don't smoke while they work!


32 posted on 06/07/2005 6:06:37 PM PDT by B4Ranch ( Report every illegal alien that you meet. Call 866-347-2423, Employers use 888-464-4218)
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the post. Interesting.


33 posted on 06/07/2005 6:15:13 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: Doctor Stochastic

>>But some of the sick people were using reefers.<<

Others used ice.


34 posted on 06/07/2005 6:23:04 PM PDT by B4Ranch ( Report every illegal alien that you meet. Call 866-347-2423, Employers use 888-464-4218)
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Whatever your opinion on this particular case, one thing is clear. The SC just gave full permission to Congress to open up a great big can of whoop-ass on the States.


35 posted on 06/07/2005 6:26:15 PM PDT by Wolfie
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To: thoughtomator

Honestly, haven't you seen these "alleged conservatives", some of them extremely prominent here, jettison their principles right and left the last four years? Perhaps I'm more cynical than you, but my only surprise is that there aren't more.


36 posted on 06/07/2005 6:36:46 PM PDT by jammer
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To: jammer

Yes I have consistently seen them oppose the mission statement of this site. I wouldn't use the word "jettison" because any claim most of them had to being constitutionalist in the first place was dubious at best.


37 posted on 06/07/2005 6:38:20 PM PDT by thoughtomator (The U.S. Constitution poses no serious threat to our form of government)
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To: Texas Federalist

Must agree. Thomas shows himself again as the shining light of this current court. Scalia allowed his personal distaste for the consumption of cannabis to sway his decision. He knew this decision stank, thus the separate opinion, which was bunch of crap, but more legally obtuse self-justifying crap than the frankly scary majority opinion.


38 posted on 06/07/2005 6:45:28 PM PDT by ExcelJockey
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To: B4Ranch
Looks like "Happy Air's" Flagship Aircraft.

Did Ken Kesey paint it ?
39 posted on 06/07/2005 6:47:10 PM PDT by Red Sea Swimmer (Tisha5765Bav)
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To: tahiti

"Why did she argue this case as a commerce power issue?
Why did she not argue you the case as an Amendment IX right?"

Silly tahiti, there is no such thing as the Ninth Amendment. All power is delegated to the federal government now, donchaknow. It's just a matter of how much it lets the states have! God forbid the states have any powers or rights--that'd be silly in a federalist system like ours. Oops, did I say federalist? I mean unitary!


40 posted on 06/07/2005 7:11:05 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (<-- sick of faux-conservatives who want federal government intervention for 'conservative things.')
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