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Need help deciding on a tractor for a father's day gift (VANITY)
Self ^ | 6/8/05 | Self

Posted on 06/08/2005 5:59:41 AM PDT by TSgt

Forgive my vanity post, I never post them but I could use some advice and have assisted other Freepers with their vanity questions.

I'm buying my poor father a tractor for father's day so he doesn't die of heatstroke while push mowing his 1 acre lawn. I own a Craftsman twin cylinder 21HP tractor that I bought in 2001 and haven't had any problems with it other than replacing the deck but I’m hard on tractors.

I'm going to get one of 2 tractors and would like your opinion. If you were my father which one would you like to get for father's day?

Craftsman 19.0 hp 42 in. Deck Lawn Tractor Sears item #07127518000 Mfr. model #27518

Craftsman

OR

Cub Cadet 19HP* Kohler® Courage™ Single Cylinder Engine Model #: LT 1042

Cub Cadet

I can get either tractor for about $1,300.00

I prefer a twin engine tractor with more horsepower but don't believe he'll need it. He has a very flat 1 acre and isn't rough on tractors like I am so I believe either of these will do.

Any guidance or advice or personal opinions would greatly be appreciated.

Mike USAF


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; US: Ohio; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: chitchat; craftsman; ford8n; kohler; tractor
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1 posted on 06/08/2005 5:59:41 AM PDT by TSgt
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To: MikeWUSAF

Ask your wife which tractor she thinks is sexier, then go with the opposite one.


2 posted on 06/08/2005 6:01:09 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: MikeWUSAF

Not sure what John Deere tractors go for, but I have one that's been VERY dependable for the last 5 years.


3 posted on 06/08/2005 6:01:51 AM PDT by Victor (If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert." -David Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister)
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To: MikeWUSAF

I don't have any advice to offer since I know nothing about tractors, but that's a very nice present to give to your father.


4 posted on 06/08/2005 6:05:16 AM PDT by SilentServiceCPOWife (We are merely players, performers & portrayers, each another's audience outside the gilded cage)
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To: MikeWUSAF
Buy him a Carrera GT, and hook a tiller to the bumper...


5 posted on 06/08/2005 6:06:14 AM PDT by southernnorthcarolina (UNC Tar Heels: NCAA Basketball Champions 1957/1982/1993/2005)
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To: MikeWUSAF

My husband has a John Deere X595 that he uses for our 3-acre property. It's a diesel with a 62-inch mowing deck. It's very reliable and accommodates a lot of attachments, such as a cart, 3-bag bagging system, snow plow and spreader. A few weeks ago, we used it to right a 20 ft. plum tree that had fallen over in the yard. They are more expensive than the ones you are considering, but they will last a life time with proper care.


6 posted on 06/08/2005 6:11:44 AM PDT by piperpilot
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I know nothing about Cub Cadet, but I beat the crap out of my Craftsman Garden Tractor with the 20 hp Kohler(?) engine. This is my 6th season and all I did, besides change the oil, was replace the battery this year.


7 posted on 06/08/2005 6:13:54 AM PDT by stevio (Red-Blooded American Male)
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To: MikeWUSAF
They look about the same: Kohler engines (good), they both have hydrostatic trans (good) The CC also has a PTO for the deck, Sears doesn't.
Deck gauge on CC=13, Sears=12 - prob not a huge diff.

I bought a craftsman tractor recently b/c the new Deere lawn tractors used the same components; the sears was $400 less. I would also consider supportability. Don't but the Sears MA, but consider service options on the CC: haul it to a mower shop, on site support, etc. I would expect most shops carry CC parts if your pop is DIY guy.

Nearly equal IMO, it comes down to maintenance, and usability (look, feel, seat, ride, comfort) for me.

8 posted on 06/08/2005 6:14:27 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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I checked consumer reports. They rated lawn tractors last month, but didn't look at either of your models. For the money you're looking at, the hightest rated one is a Troy-Bilt 13AJ609G for $1400 (also sold as Yard Man 13AT605G for $1300). It's actually listed as a Consumer Reports "Best Buy." Another CR "Best Buy" is the Yard-Man 13AN791G for $995 (also sold as an MTD Pro 3AO791G for $999).

I have online access to Consumer Reports so FReepmail me if you need further info

9 posted on 06/08/2005 6:16:15 AM PDT by The G Man (The Red States ... the world's only hope for survival.)
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There can be a considerable difference between machines as to the driver's seat, comfort, positioning, etc..if the price is the same..take him to both dealers, let HIM drive them both...see which one he likes..


10 posted on 06/08/2005 6:18:14 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: SilentServiceCPOWife

John Deere. Mine is 20 years old. Change the oil, sharpen the blades.

One thing to note, both Cub Cadet and John Deere have two line s of equipment. The inexpensive line carried by the big box home improvement stores like Home Depot and Lowes. There is a higher quality line carried by the factory dealers.

Cub Cadet has a nice zero turn lawn mower for about $1,400.

Make sure the engine has a cast iron sleeve and it should last years.


11 posted on 06/08/2005 6:20:30 AM PDT by IamConservative (To worry is to misuse your imagination.)
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To: IamConservative
Make sure the engine has a cast iron sleeve and it should last years.

Second that, and will add pressure lubrication to the list. The best engines out there currently seem to be the Briggs Vanguard line and the Kawasakis. Some of the Briggs engines have cast iron sleeves, but are splash lubricated. Easy way to tell if it's a pressure lube system is to check to see if it has an oil filter.

12 posted on 06/08/2005 6:25:35 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: MikeWUSAF
I dunno Mike. For $1300, you could hire one of these guys to mow your dad's lawn every week during the summer for the next twelve or thirteen years. I mean, unless dad really enjoys mowing the lawn, which some people do.

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I'd check the warranty before you buy him a new lawnmower, I'm not sure any of the models listed are guaranteed for that long. So unless dad just likes to "do it himself", think about getting him a Mexican!

13 posted on 06/08/2005 6:26:55 AM PDT by Kenton ("Life is tough, and it's really tough when you're stupid" - Damon Runyon)
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Both sound like a little overkill for the intended application, but are a damn fine gift. Want to adopt me as your dad? I would love a John Deere L110, hydrostatic drive with a bagger.

Seriously, a coworker has the similar model Sears tractor and has had persistent trouble with the transmission. No one else I know of has had a similar problem.

Like others have said, it's basically an apples to apples comparison, so comfort for your dad and service ease would be deciding factors.


14 posted on 06/08/2005 6:29:56 AM PDT by Fierce Allegiance (This is not your granddaddy's America...)
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There's not $10 difference in the two mowers. I have a Craftsman 18hp that is pretty much the same one you have listed - the one you have listed is just the new version. I have not had a lot of trouble out of it - other than blowing fuses for no apparent reason, and awfully short battery life. Deck belt is not very long lasting, Deck engagement cable broke last month - part has been on order for two weeks.... still waiting.

I actually am pretty hard on the mower.

If the same price - I personally would buy the Cub if presented with the same choice. Some nice features on the Cub that the Craftsman doesn't have. I don't know that the 13 guage vs. 12 guage (12 is thicker) will make much difference unless your dad is going to mow rocks! The deck cleaning system on the Cub also sound convenient.

What nice gift for your Father, either way!


15 posted on 06/08/2005 6:30:30 AM PDT by TheBattman (Islam (and liberals)- the cult of Satan)
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To: MikeWUSAF

If you really love him get him something with green paint (john deere)


16 posted on 06/08/2005 6:32:05 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple
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To: IamConservative

Same here! We own a 20 year old John Deere 210 as well as a 17 year old Honda self propelled mower! They both run great! My husband prefers the Honda, the Deere is too big for mowing the hills on the side of the house. Can't beat either one for dependability!


17 posted on 06/08/2005 6:32:40 AM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland ("Consensus seems to be the process of abandoning all beliefs, principles, values and policies")
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To: MikeWUSAF

http://www.lawnmowerdealers.net/


18 posted on 06/08/2005 6:36:13 AM PDT by rabidralph
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"I prefer a twin engine tractor with more horsepower but don't believe he'll need it."

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I'm sure he would appreciate a V-twin.

19 posted on 06/08/2005 6:36:39 AM PDT by WideGlide (That light at the end of the tunnel might be a muzzle flash.)
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To: MikeWUSAF

http://www.dixiechopper.com/


20 posted on 06/08/2005 6:38:50 AM PDT by rabidralph
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