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Five Female Marines Feared Dead
CBS/AP ^ | June 24, 2005

Posted on 06/24/2005 11:49:22 AM PDT by West Coast Conservative

A suicide car bomber slammed into a U.S. military convoy in Fallujah, killing two Marines, a Pentagon spokesman said Friday. Three Marines and a sailor were missing after the attack.

CBS News National Security Correspondent David Martin reports that five female Marines are said to be dead, according to officials. They are members of a supply unit who were being driven into Fallujah to assist in searching local women for hidden weapons when their vehicle, which was equipped with armor, was struck by the bomber.

Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman said another 13 Marines were wounded in the Thursday night attack and said some women were among the casualties.

The car bomber targeted troops assigned to the II Marine Expeditionary Force, an earlier military statement said. Fallujah, the Anbar province town 40 miles west of Baghdad, was the scene of a large-scale campaign in November by U.S. troops to rout militants.

An earlier report also had said six Marines were killed.

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: fallen; marines; michaelmoore; military; militarywomen; oif; wariniraq; waronterror; womenincombat
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To: mariabush

They may have no business there but there is no other choice....especially after several months of recruiting shortfalls.


41 posted on 06/24/2005 1:34:01 PM PDT by Austin Willard Wright
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To: Txsleuth
I know that I shouldn't feel any "different" that it is women instead of men Marines

How do you "know" that?

Are you a man?

Are you western civilization man?

Why do you feel compelled to "apologize" for having feelings that your forefathers did their best to ingrain in you?

42 posted on 06/24/2005 1:36:22 PM PDT by iconoclast
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To: Austin Willard Wright
They may have no business there but there is no other choice....especially after several months of recruiting shortfalls.

One can only hope none were mothers ... or grandmothers for that matter.

43 posted on 06/24/2005 1:40:32 PM PDT by iconoclast
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To: joesnuffy
"The financial sources and spiritual sources as well as man power and infrastructure sources..."

Those are a bit to the south of where we are now...

44 posted on 06/24/2005 1:42:33 PM PDT by lugsoul ("She talks and she laughs." - Tom DeLay)
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To: Javelina
"It shouldn't make you feel any worse than when one of our young, male Marines is killed."

Sorry, but it does. It is just the way many of us were raised. Chivalry sort of...in addition to despising those who promote lower or reduced standards to accomodate social engineering amongst those who fight wars.

45 posted on 06/24/2005 1:43:46 PM PDT by Meldrim
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To: Txsleuth
Anyone human being's life is precious - most especially to their loved ones. That being said, over 97% of combat deaths and injuries in Iraq are male. Historically, the number of American male combat deaths and casualties is 99.999%, approximately.

The Violence Against Women Act is coning up for billions in re-authorization funds, and males are excluded from the benefits. There is no Violence Against Male Act in America today and it shows (glaringly). VAWA routinely blames all males, yes, "all males" for violence. Isn't it ironic how America, through VAWA, blames "all males" for violence, but has historically, and still (by law), sends almost exclusively males to frontline combat?

Where is Martha Burke trying to level this playing field? Clearly, in Iraq women are getting closer and closer to the front lines, and we see the results. As I said in the opening all life is precious, but in America it appears that men's lives are treated as of lesser value than women's. Why? In a nation where women have had approximately 30,000,000,000 abortions in 30 years, women certainly aren't all that critical in keeping our population numbers up.

In America today we have a strong gender feminist movement, primarily Democrats, that works hard to promote women as being able to do anything a man can do. In the conservative camp, traditional minded women still cling to more traditonal roles of wife and Mother with all the accompanying male chivalry that goes with it. What we wind up with in our society (especially among many younger females) is an odd mix of the more liberated rights and expectations, accompanied by many of the old chivalrous priveleges and courtesies. Women's lives are in a stressful state of flux (change) in America today. Men are stressed out more than ever, trying to figure out the proper way to behave towards women in this climate of "morphing" female gender roles. Women and men struggle to understand what is the normal role for their lives.

If you don't like the more liberal aspects of what's happening than you can blame the tens of thousands of women's studies classes on our college campuses who have been advocating for all these liberal changes for women. They reside in the Liberal Sciences Departments. That's the source, along with the over 270 women's commission that John F. Kennedy laid the ground work for. The 1st women's commission came about during his administration. Currently, there are virtually no men's commission or men's studies programs anywhere in America.

Here is one site you will find advocating for more exposure of women in combat, Combat Ban (of womnen) Wrong Move, NOW President Says, May 12, 2005 Can you guess from looking around their web site which of the two main parties they are most closely associated with? Do you see anything about gender bigoted VAWA there?

...and here are two conservative women's sites where you will find other (differing) viewpoints:

#1 Mailbag: Those Abu Ghraib Women . Lynn Cheney was one of the founding members of the Independent Women's Forum (IWF).

#2 Turning Women Into Cannon Fodder. The Concerned Women for America CWA is a Christian based women's group. I belong to both the CWA and the IWF, but am a man. I hope I haven't angered too many poeple with this frank assessment of the "confusing gender climate" in America today. Again, lastly, all human life is precious in God's eyes, and thereby mine. Sincerely, R.

46 posted on 06/24/2005 1:43:57 PM PDT by MensRightsActivist
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To: Shermy
Looks like Fallujah has relapsed.

Not to mention Afghanistan.

Uncle Remus' Tar Baby comes to mind.

47 posted on 06/24/2005 1:44:17 PM PDT by iconoclast
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To: Austin Willard Wright

Not for the Marines!!!!


48 posted on 06/24/2005 1:44:35 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek ('We voted like we prayed")
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To: leadpenny

I agree!!!!!!


49 posted on 06/24/2005 1:45:12 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek ('We voted like we prayed")
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To: leadpenny
"They are just taking a slot if they have to stay stateside"

The Israeli's manage it quite effectively, with conscription. It would be interesting to see how much they accomodate Islamic sensibilities when it comes to areas like this.

50 posted on 06/24/2005 1:45:59 PM PDT by Meldrim
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To: West Coast Conservative

How does this make you feel durbin? Are you happy now?


51 posted on 06/24/2005 1:50:51 PM PDT by cubreporter (I trust Rush. He has done more for this country than any of us will ever know! :))
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To: Meldrim

Yes, and if we ever go to a draft, the gals should be called up equal to their current slice (%).


52 posted on 06/24/2005 1:54:26 PM PDT by leadpenny
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To: Salvey
I have said from the start of this, that the only way you defeat your enemy is to remove his will to fight. This is what occurred after WWII, the Germans and Japanese were so damn tired of the hardships imposed on them via the destruction of cities and the related infrastructure they were "pacified"
This crap about not being at war with the civilian population is BS. The only thing these animals respect is shear power...why do you think they never ventured to overthrow Saddam?
Cause he was a bigger bad ass than they were
We better start being bad asses, and stop "Arresting" these scum and summarily executing them in the streets

PS:My philosophy is expressed in my tag line, as if you couldn't guess

53 posted on 06/24/2005 1:54:46 PM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: leadpenny

Why not call them up according to their current ability percentage, that is of total available personnel?


54 posted on 06/24/2005 1:56:04 PM PDT by Meldrim
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To: lugsoul
Seems I've heard it referred to lately as the "safest city in Iraq."

Patience. Patience.

They're in the last throes of defeat.

55 posted on 06/24/2005 1:58:56 PM PDT by iconoclast
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To: leadpenny

Lead has there been any updates....are there still missing troops?


56 posted on 06/24/2005 1:59:31 PM PDT by Dog
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To: Fido969
"Someone might want to ask Dick Durbin how many Nazi women were killed in fighting because the Nazis were sensitive to the cultures of the people they destroyed."

The truth is that Nazi Germany was a very chivalrous culture towards German women, albeit horrifically inhumane in many, many other ways to others. Not only were women excluded from "all" combat roles, they were even excluded from working in the war factories. After the war the Nazis concluded that women would have been a major asset working in the war factories.

Nazi Germany very actively promoted Motherhood, and even gave a medal to woman having over a certain number of children. They also had very nice birthing centers for women to go and have their "Arian children."

Of course the Nazis used captured slave labor in their factories, and we are all familiar with the many, many other atrocities of the Nazi regime. Likewise, many women and children were killed in Germany, because the stubborn resistance of the failing Nazi regime brought the horrors of war to the German homeland and the civilian population.

Isn't it ironic how Democrat Dick Durbin calls others Nazis, yet his party is primarily responsible for one of biggest holocausts (abortion) in the history of the world, and right here in America.

IMHO, Carl Rove was far to kind in his assessment of what I see, that can only accurately be described as Nazi-crats.

57 posted on 06/24/2005 2:03:21 PM PDT by MensRightsActivist
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To: Meldrim

What ever works. There just needs to be a benchmark for the numbers of women drafted if and when that time comes.


58 posted on 06/24/2005 2:03:37 PM PDT by leadpenny
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To: Dog

Don't know. I've got C-SPAN on and haven't looked for my remote in a while.


59 posted on 06/24/2005 2:05:08 PM PDT by leadpenny
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To: leadpenny
I pulled this off of Rantburg....Just heard the military arrested a "journalist" at the scene. The criminal was filming the attack, and had apparently been given advance notice.

Heard anything about this journalist being arrested at the scene?

60 posted on 06/24/2005 2:06:42 PM PDT by Dog
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