ACLU Now Defends Polygamy, Further Eroding Traditional Marriage

Agape Press ^ | 6/24/05 | James L. Lambert

[dsc]

"So end no-fault divorce."

Good idea.

"That has nothing to do with polygamy."

It does in that both legitimize a man shuffling one woman aside for another. (What it allows women to do is a separate subject.)

"In both cases, the extent of the penalty to the male is a fine."

No, in a healthy society such a man is refused a divorce.

"But in a polygamous society, that would seem not to be the case, dad would still be living with the kids and subject to their daily demands."

Ain't no way a man is meeting the needs of 18 kids by three different wives as well as he can meet the needs of six kids by one wife.

"I don't know whether a 'healthy monogamous society' is worth defending, if what we live in is one of those."

Of course we don't. We live in a society with no legal institution of marriage. We live in a society of instantly dissoluble temporary co-habitation contracts. If anyone is really married in our society, that is a matter of a covenant between them and God, and not a matter of anything that could be called a legal marriage.

"And what is this 'buy-a-wife' crap? When did society start selling its women again?"

If we go to polygamy, can that be far behind?

[UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide]

The girl with the eyes is HOT!

[MortMan]

Why, thank you!

[tsomer]

I guess the point is that seemingly arbitrary standards become traditions. Some traditions advance society, some impede it. Measure the achievements of societies that conform to monotheistic standards against those that don't.

I agree that setting the standards on alcohol use are too stringent, and that they undermine the law. But liberals argued for these after they'd dismantled other strictures.

As far as who gets their nookie, and when, and with how many, I consider it irrelevant. What I oppose is the dismantling of the legal concept of marriage as an arrangement between one man and one woman, which is basically construed to protect their children and manage the distribution of property.

That is, from when we had property. Now you want to see arbitrary? Stick around...

[GOPJ]

Thanks for the ping.

[LearnsFromMistakes]

Some people are born liking cats...

Sorry, liking cats is deviant behavior.

[byablue]

In fact, some women would probably find it comforting that there are other women in the household to chat with.

LOL That's why God made telephones. Be honest, you're engaging in pure projection - it is the husband who would find it comforting for his wife to have someone else in the household to chat with, relieving him of the burdensome chore of listening to someone other than himself. Don't get me wrong, I love my husband but I truly believe men have a lead wall between their skull and their brain. :)

[GOPJ]

I'm a dog person...

Sorry, liking cats is deviant behavior.

[papertyger]

relieving him of the burdensome chore of listening to someone other than himself.

Naah. It's just listening to her that's a burden. I mean how many micro-facets of someone else's existence can you be interested in if you don't need to trade off for listening to your own micro-facets?

[byablue]

If a society led by men seems odd, that is only because modern men have not been brought up to lead, but have instead been brainwashed to share leadership with women.

To a point, I agree with that statement. However, men cannot absolve themselves of complicity when to a great extent centuries of their "leadership" focused on their own self-interests and categorized women as possessions, which is a glaring characteristic of polygamy - you can have as many wives as you can "financially afford." Frankly, if men object to the attitudes and actions of women today, they have only themselves to blame. It is simply the result of centuries of mistreatment, in many cases abominably using God as the justification - treated as property, a non-person under the law, traded like cattle, executed for a baby's gender, persecuted and murdered for being victims of rape and, currently in the news, cases like Mukhtaran, given as settlement of legal disputes. I am a Christian but there are times when I see religious men preach "love thy neighbor as thyself" but fail to comprehend the application of that to even one wife. Yet, they are quick as a cat to jump on a perverse interpretation of "head of the household" because that justifies, in their own minds, their self-centered "leadership."

That same concept of leadership existed between King George and the colonists, which prompted a Revolution.

[byablue]

trade off for listening to your own micro-facets?

ROFL - men have multiple facets??????????

[jos65]

What exactly does ACLU mean?
Is it their domain to protect our property rights?

[Truthsayer20]

It's sad how some "conservatives" seem to be perfectly willing to against 2000 years of Western social tradition. Monogamous marriage is the institution which made Western civilization possible.

[Truthsayer20]

But I do believe the birthrate is much higher in so-called retrograde societies than in our "advanced" society, which has a birthrate below replacement level.

And so the "retrograde" society seems more vital.

I remember you specifically railing against overpopulation on FR. And now all of a sudden YOU are complaining about low birthrates?

[byablue]

What exactly does ACLU mean?

Anti-American Constitutional Liberties Underminers
But their members want the public to believe they are the American Civil Liberties Union.