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Bill Cosby: African-Americans 'Not Holding Up Their End of the Deal'
ABC News ^ | 29 June 2005

Posted on 06/29/2005 7:30:23 PM PDT by Lando Lincoln

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To: AppyPappy

I'd kill any of my kids if they did that.


61 posted on 06/30/2005 5:48:58 AM PDT by biblewonk (If you don't get the bible, how can you be a Christian?)
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To: Lando Lincoln
FYI to those in the DC area: Bill Cosby will be appearing at the Calvert Marine Museum in Solomons Island, Calvert County, MD, Saturday, July 2 at 7:30.
62 posted on 06/30/2005 5:52:50 AM PDT by rabidralph
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To: adam_az

So his message is wrong because he's a liberal??

Go buy a clue.


63 posted on 06/30/2005 5:53:14 AM PDT by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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To: adam_az
WTF - Meanwhile he gave $1000 to Denise Majette in the 2004 election cycle.

I guess if he speaks personal responsibility, yet doesn't agree with you politically, he's still "eeevil," right? Hell, that attitude is no better than the Dems.

Besides. Majette lost. Though she was a moonbat, given the choice here, I'd much rather have had her in that 4th Congressional seat than what we ended up with: Cynthia "Jihad" McKinney...especially considering that with that district's present boundaries, a Republican doesn't have a snowball's chance of winning.

But back to Cosby. I don't care if he donates to John F'n Kerry. His message is one that needs to be heard. He can reach far more people than I can on a day-to-day basis. His voice adds to mine, and forces people to reexamine their personal responsibility.

I'll take that -- even from a Democrat -- over the traditional moonbat mantra any day of the week.

64 posted on 06/30/2005 5:55:29 AM PDT by mhking (The world needs a wake up call gentlemen...we're gonna phone it in.)
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To: kerryusama04
a bunch of white democrats who have locked the black folks up in the worst neighborhoods, taken their guns away, feeding them food stamps and welfare to keep them down, and condemning their children to schools that are more like a Gulag than any beach front property in Cuba.

I'm not "locked up" in anybody's "worst neighborhood." My neighbors are not "locked up" in anybody's "worst neighborhood." Much of black America is not "locked up" in anybody's "worst neighborhood."

The black middle class is far from "locked up."

However, they are receiving one side of the message. Cosby is helping deliver that other side.

65 posted on 06/30/2005 5:57:48 AM PDT by mhking (The world needs a wake up call gentlemen...we're gonna phone it in.)
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To: cookcounty
Hateful as the left is, I have to wonder if the allegations against him have a political base.

I'm certain that at least part of those allegations do have a political source. I get e-mails from people, and phone calls when I appear on radio shows, from people who get upset with me for "airing dirty laundry in public."

Cosby is getting the same thing.

66 posted on 06/30/2005 5:59:26 AM PDT by mhking (The world needs a wake up call gentlemen...we're gonna phone it in.)
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To: mhking

Living in a very poor community is all about survival. The whole day is dedicated to it. You don't fuss at kids for cussing or smoking or doing drugs unless you want a beating. When you leave that neighborhood and move to middle-class land, you forget that whole mindset. So it's easy to demand they "straighten up".

It's easy to blame the "leadership" but they are running a con game and they need the masses of poor to support the con.


67 posted on 06/30/2005 6:13:56 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: rave123

He and his family were raised Christian and did not believe in the tribalism associated with Africa. He came to college in America to better himself. His family was fairly wealthy in Africa and they would be poverty level by American standards.


68 posted on 06/30/2005 6:42:46 AM PDT by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: Lando Lincoln

Dr. Coz has the right message and is delivering it to the right people. Unfortunately, he is not as entertaining as crack, PlayStations, McDonalds, and hip hop. He will be forgotten the next week.


69 posted on 06/30/2005 6:48:08 AM PDT by Mr. Nobody
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To: mhking

I appreciate what you said, but I think it's silly for him to preach personal responsibility and then support candidates that want to expand the socialist nanny state, and support the very programs that encourage and dare say I *cause* the lack of responsibility he's preaching about!


70 posted on 06/30/2005 6:50:33 AM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: An.American.Expatriate

"So his message is wrong because he's a liberal?? Go buy a clue."

Ahem.

See my immediately prev post on this thread, and then you can apologize.


71 posted on 06/30/2005 6:51:43 AM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: Lando Lincoln
Martin asked Cosby if his own failures of judgment disqualify him from speaking about others.


Even the truly evil Clinton has been correct about some things.
72 posted on 06/30/2005 6:52:34 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: Fido969

Read up a couple msgs. In a nutshell, he preaches personal responsibility and then supports politicians who promote the nanny state mentality that causes the problems that concern him!


73 posted on 06/30/2005 6:58:04 AM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: adam_az

No apologies. But thanks for confirming what I thought.


74 posted on 06/30/2005 7:01:09 AM PDT by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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To: AppyPappy

I've heard clips of his speech. It is true that he does at some point address the lower-economic blacks specifically, but his overall message is definitely to the black community as a whole.

ALL of us should be paying attention.


75 posted on 06/30/2005 7:19:56 AM PDT by GOP_Proud (...stumbling across Bill Bennett on the radio is like bumping into Socrates at Starbucks.-K.Parker)
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To: mhking
The black middle class is far from "locked up."

True indeed. Who is Cosby's audience? He's going to the inner cities - not the suburbs. What's your take on the situation I described? The most oppressed people in our county are undeniably inner city black folks and I am tired of conservatives getting the blame.

Perhaps I should have used more adjectives in my original post. Next time I will say "inner-city black folks who are not mhking nor affiliated with same."

Ask youself who do the Dem's go shooting with when they are running for president? It's always the only two white democrats to ever shop at a Cabella's in a field in Iowa, isn't it?

And who is standing up for the black folks to take back their cities? None other than a white republican woman from Texas named K. Bailey Hutchinson who has introduced legislation to restore the Second amendment to Washington DC thus empowering black folks.

76 posted on 06/30/2005 7:22:36 AM PDT by kerryusama04 (How do you make a Republican a conservative? Put him in the minority...)
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To: kerryusama04

Gun control is a very small element of the problems of the Underclasses. There is certainly no shortage of guns in their communities and the same problems are destroying them in rural Mississippi where there is no gun control problem as in Chicago.

Trying to pretend Out of Wedlock births has something to do with gun control is nothing but idiocy. Or an attempt to make those of us who support the RTKABA look like loons.


77 posted on 06/30/2005 7:30:26 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: coconutt2000

You arent' goofy enough to believe that fewer anti-gun laws would mean fewer sluts popping out illegitimate babies now are you? There is NO relation between the biggest problem of the Black community and gun laws.


78 posted on 06/30/2005 7:33:35 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: kerryusama04

Apparently you know as little about gun laws in Chicago as you do sociological phenomena.


79 posted on 06/30/2005 7:35:13 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Gun control is racist. Going all the way back to when Pharao took the swords away from the Jews to enslave them. Then when Hitler took the guns away from the Jews to exterminate them. Then when the sore losers in the Civil War started prohibiting blacks from owning guns or learning to fence. Contact the NRAILA on the "racist roots of gun control" and they will likely send you the same two pieces of literature they sent to me 5 years ago - before I was even a member. These articles were written by gun history scholars that undeniably traced gun control to racism. I would be happy to send you copies but I do not have them in electronic format.

NRA members and legal gun owners tend to be good citizens all around. Out of wedlock births and such cannot directly be contributed to gun control. The gun control is part of a systematic program of oppression and forced dependency on the government. Socialism always leads to oppression.

80 posted on 06/30/2005 7:43:29 AM PDT by kerryusama04 (How do you make a Republican a conservative? Put him in the minority...)
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