Posted on 07/01/2005 9:55:00 AM PDT by Rhadaghast
May 11, 2005 Host: Vic Eliason Topic: False Doctrine Guest: David DiCanio Description: Dr. David DiCanio is Pastor of Columbine Free Presbyterian Church in Columbine, Colorado, and is involved in Christian Media, which produces television-style documentaries on religious trends and movements. Vic Eliason presents two audio cuts. One features Robert Schuller being interviewed by Dr. David DiCanio after giving a keynote address at the 2004 National Association of Evangelicals meeting. The other cut features Robert Schuller interviewing Billy Graham. The two discuss their views concerning how people are saved.
Dr. DiCanio interacts with callers to discuss the opinions expressed by Schuller and Graham and the current move of some leaders in Christianity to preach a gospel that teaches salvation apart from a conscious, biblical awareness of Christ as the only way to God.
Contact Info: info@thechristianmedia.com www.thechristianmedia.com
Rare recordings of great preachers of the past are posted by Dr. DiCanio's church at
http://www.sermonaudio.com/columbine Listen: RealAudio Windows Media
I just read the link, thanks.
"She's learning the language" (of fundamentalism) from a pastor in the Assembly of God church. I wonder who will be the interpreter.
Sweet Caroline, who do you think God wants to condemn to hell? God loves us all, he is a loving God. He is also a just God and a merciful God.
It is Gods desire that we should all be saved. So why doesn't he just save us all. He sent his only son to die for us, to shed his blood and redeem us from our sin. In his justice, he requires that we do one thing...accept Jesus and his sacrifice.
If God saves all except the sinful and wicked....then it would be by our good works that we are saved. The Bible clearly states that it is not by works, but by grace.
I hate to say this...but God does not save us all...if he did we would all be. We would all be saved automatically (like you so wish the aborted babies to be.)
I don't know the answer, I'm just giving you a different perspective on this. I honestly hope your right, but I fear your not.
LOL! Hillary is hoping the US Voter will be the interpreter.
So much for the idea that God is just.
This does not sound right. I have a copy of one of Billy Graham's books published in 1978. And the plan of salvation is clearly presented. I also know folks who have worked with the Billy Graham crusades for over 30 years translating who are on our missions committee and work at the same ministry I do.
Also, Christ will not come again until He is preached to all the nations.
Most Christians want Christ to come again!
God loves everyone including the Muslims. That is why God sent His Son to die for the Muslims and and my sin.
Because Christ told the Christians to go and spread the word.
Also, Christ will not come again until every nation has heard of Christ.
The missionaries are working on getting to every people group, and I believe they are anticipating this happening in our lifetime.
We've had missionaries speak at our church about bringing the Gospel to the different people groups of the world, and I wish I had copies of some of their slides. It was very interesting.
There are a lot of people's groups who have not heard, especially in the Muslim world, China, and India. It's not nations as we see them on a map, but the different people's groups.
Different missionary groups are working together to preach to all of these unreached groups. It is millions and millions of people still.
I think you stated that beautifully.
You can believe it or not, I choose to believe him.
"BELIEVE AND RECIEVE", is that not what he said!
What's your problem with Robert Schuler? The Hour of Power has always been a positive prorgam to me.
Defending Billy Graham, whose 50 year ministry frankly speaks for itself and needs no defending, against the sniping of pipsqueak wannabee theologians is obviously an exercise in futility. I said it earlier, more diplomatically, but let me say it more emphatically: None of you naysayers measure up to his ministry and accomplishments, and no twisting of his words can depreciate from his contributions to the world, especially to the lost.
I doubt he's saved.
We have no direct scriptural citation to back up our traditional view of an "age of accountability" before which one could die and go to Heaven though having not of their willful action put their faith in Christ.
However, we have a very strong case that this traditional view is true based on elements of God's character that we find in scripture as pertaining to treatment of the poor, the widows and orphans. We are given a view to the merciful and compassionate heart of God; this God who so loved that He gave His only Son. We see Jesus' treatment of children and his comments about them in Matthew 18, Mark 10 and Luke 18.
http://bible.gospelcom.net/passage/?search=matthew%2018:2-6;%20Mark%2010:12-17;%20Luke%2018:13-20;&version=9;
We read Jesus' teaching "as ye have done it unto the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me" in Matthew 25.
We read Isaiah 40:11 and the picture speaks volumes of a tender and merciful shepherd.
In all of these and elsewhere we gather a deep sense of God's mercy, and we couple that mercy with His justice and we believe that He, therefore, gathers to Himself any that die in a condition such that they have had no chance to choose faith, whether by reason of age or incapacity. We consider that this is consistent with justice and mercy taken together with the scriptural portrayals of His tenderness.
We cannot by any specific passage state that this is biblically the case, but I think we can confidently assert from what spcripture reveals and the Holy Spirit testifies concerning the matter that our traditional view is the right view.
Peter's denial: "before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me thrice".
Wow...that is a pretty strong allegation there.
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