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Apophis and Us (NY Times Editorial staff forgets to take Trazodone)
The New York Times ^ | August 4, 2005

Posted on 08/03/2005 11:59:48 PM PDT by presidio9

While the shuttle is in space and our attention is tilted upward, it's worth thinking about what else is up there, especially an asteroid named 99942 Apophis. When this object - a little more than a thousand feet across - was first discovered last year, astronomers estimated that it had a distant chance of striking Earth in 2029. After closer observation, it seems likely that this asteroid will still pass very near our planet, but without striking it. There is still a possibility, however, that as it swings by it may hit a gravitational "keyhole," shifting its orbit far enough to make it strike Earth in 2036.

Beyond the question of whether Apophis deserves to be added to our regular list of doomsday worries, there's the practical matter of whether we can do anything about it. Hollywood heroics - trying to blast it out of the sky - might do more harm than good. NASA scientists think they have the technology to safely give it a nudge that might shift the orbit a few thousand feet. The trick is figuring out exactly when the asteroid will be in the exact place where such a modest bump would be effective.

One possibility is to put a radio beacon on the asteroid, as if it were a member of a wolf pack in Yellowstone. That would let astronomers refine their predictions of the asteroid's potential orbit when it next approaches Earth, in 2012-2013. Given NASA's recent success in firing a probe at the comet Temple I, planting a beacon on an asteroid seems doable.

You don't need to be a science-fiction writer to see a curious convergence here - the approach of a possibly Earthbound asteroid and the emergence of the scientific and technological capacity to cope with it. That, of course,

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: apophis; catastrophism; plannine; wereallgonnadie
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1 posted on 08/03/2005 11:59:48 PM PDT by presidio9
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The trick is figuring out exactly when the asteroid will be in the exact place where such a modest bump would be effective.

I wonder if the author of this piece ever heard of Deep Impact? You know...the rendezvous and intentional collision with a moving comet on July 4th, 2005?

It's not a "trick." It's called rocket science.

2 posted on 08/04/2005 12:06:04 AM PDT by Prime Choice (Thanks to the Leftists, yesterday's deviants are today's "alternate lifestyles.")
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radio beacon?? whats wrong with telescopes?? do they expect an asteroid to run around changing course unpredictably??


3 posted on 08/04/2005 12:14:19 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL

I particularly liked the radio beacon thing. It gave the column just enough sci-fi cache to make it postable.


4 posted on 08/04/2005 12:15:54 AM PDT by presidio9 (Islam Is As Islam Does)
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To: Prime Choice

apparently the NY Times think that asteroids go around changing course for no reason whatsoever, or like wolves on the hunt. what is it with these people??


5 posted on 08/04/2005 12:17:09 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: presidio9

b-grade sci-fi cache.... like Plan-9 from Outer Space


6 posted on 08/04/2005 12:18:31 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: presidio9

BTW- who has the Space and Sci-Fi Ping Lists??


7 posted on 08/04/2005 12:19:42 AM PDT by GeronL
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We're in luck: The Times has exclusive photos of an experimental new spacecraft that might be able to divert the threat.

8 posted on 08/04/2005 12:21:37 AM PDT by presidio9 (Islam Is As Islam Does)
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To: Prime Choice

Speaking of which, is it because we have a Republican president or has NASA been able to filter out anti-American fools from its ranks? The deep impact mission and the first Mars rover landing both took place on the 4th of July.


9 posted on 08/04/2005 12:24:44 AM PDT by Better Dead Than Red (Davis College Republicans (Best Party on Campus))
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Speaking of which, how are Spirit and Opportunity doing??


10 posted on 08/04/2005 12:28:46 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: Prime Choice
I wonder if the author of this piece ever heard of Deep Impact? You know...the rendezvous and intentional collision with a moving comet on July 4th, 2005?

I don't know if they have heard of Deep Impact, but they certainly don't seem to have heard of Hayabusa, which will attempt to land on the asteroid Itokawa here in a month or so, and then attempt to return to earth with its samples:

Today's HAYABUSA
Last update 2005/08/04

Distance from Earth : 349,663,157km
Distance from Itokawa : 53,998km
<Reference of distance>
from the Sun to the Earth : 149,600,000km
from the Earth to the Moon : 384,400km
*

Hayabusa just came out of the conjunction area at end of July and restarted ordinary operation.
On middle of September, Hayabusa will reach to the asteroid Itokawa.


Today's HAYABUSA

Link for above

More information about Hayabusa from ISAS/JAXA.

11 posted on 08/04/2005 12:59:13 AM PDT by snowsislander
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To: Prime Choice

that's not what they meant.
it is a function of orbital mechanics.
they need to determine the window of the rock's orbit in which a small amount of delta-V would over time become magnified enough to nudge it's path away from near-Earth flyby.


12 posted on 08/04/2005 3:01:21 AM PDT by King Prout (and the Clinton Legacy continues: like Herpes, it is a gift that keeps on giving.)
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To: GeronL

if it has a low enough albedo, it might be a bit difficult to track using optics.


13 posted on 08/04/2005 3:02:53 AM PDT by King Prout (and the Clinton Legacy continues: like Herpes, it is a gift that keeps on giving.)
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To: GeronL
"What is it with these people?"

The NYT uses the same logic when dealing with science that they do when dealing with politics.

14 posted on 08/04/2005 6:33:29 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage
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To: Better Dead Than Red
Speaking of which, is it because we have a Republican president or has NASA been able to filter out anti-American fools from its ranks? The deep impact mission and the first Mars rover landing both took place on the 4th of July.

No. Major beginnings or conclusions of space projects are timed to coincide with holidays to make them a bit more memorable.

Remember that Pathfinder/Sojourner landed on Mars on July 4th, 1997...during the second term of Komrade Klinton.

15 posted on 08/04/2005 7:07:44 AM PDT by Prime Choice (Thanks to the Leftists, yesterday's deviants are today's "alternate lifestyles.")
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To: Prime Choice
It's not a "trick." It's called rocket science.

The author is probably a liberal arts grad, so it's all supernatural to him. ;)

16 posted on 08/04/2005 7:51:41 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Democracy...will be revengeful, bloody, and cruel." -- John Adams)
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To: presidio9
Apophis huh?

A singularly ominous and inappropriate appellation.
17 posted on 08/04/2005 7:59:57 AM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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There is an excellent 5 page article on this, the asteroid originally known as "2004 MN4" in the July/August 2005 issue of The Planetary Report of The Planetary Society. Unfortunately it is not available online. This is the 320m diameter asteroid that at the end of last year briefly looked like it might hit us 4/13/2029. Best data now is that it will be a very close miss then, coming closer than the geosynchronous satellites. However such a close flyby will change its orbit; by how much depends on precisely how close it comes. One possible distance results in it hitting earth in 2036. That risk is currently estimated as 1/12,000. One website estimates 850MT energy for that collision - think Krakatoa times 4; although the risk is small its energy is high enough to average out at 70KT predicted energy.

Even though we have quite a bit of data on it we can't yet predict the orbit to the needed precision to rule in or out a 2036 hit. We need to predict the miss distance within 600 meters. Best current predictions are that the available earth based (Hubble can't help here) future observations probably won't improve our orbit enough to know before the 2029 pass whether 2036 will be a hit. Placing a radio beacon on it would give us enough data to know before 2029. In any case we will know soon after the 2029 pass whether the 2036 pass will hit. Moving the asteroid to avoid a 2036 collision would be much easier before the 2029 pass than after it, requiring just 0.01% as much energy. The early fix is likely possible in time; the late fix may be beyond our ability then.

Timing may become an issue. Can we expect NASA and the rest of the government to pull off a massive emergency space mission in seven years? From JFK to the moon took nine. First, I'd advise letting the astronomers firm up their predictions. If they expect enough data from earth based sources to arrive in time, than wait for that. If there's a good chance we won't learn enough that way than this looks like a great target for one of the unmanned space missions that NASA would likely budget anyway. Tag it with a radio beacon and do whatever other science can be added to the mission for a reasonable price. Than we'll know whether or not to panic while we can still move the dang thing out of our way. In parallel (I hope) to the above I endorse efforts to develop, and test on some orbitally safe asteroid, the technology needed to move a bad one. We're sure to need it someday, our technology is probably up to it and the cost is cheap by the standards of pork on Capital Hill.

18 posted on 08/10/2005 12:12:16 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (I)
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That risk is currently estimated as 1/12,000. One website estimates 850MT energy for that collision - think Krakatoa times 4; although the risk is small its energy is high enough to average out at 70KT predicted energy.

Chance of impact now 1/5500.

NASA response to B612 Foundation regarding asteroid 99942 Apophis

19 posted on 10/31/2005 10:06:53 PM PST by Michael_Michaelangelo (The best theory is not ipso facto a good theory. Lots of links on my homepage...)
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Good find. The sky isn't falling but it has slipped a bit more. Odds are now greater than a Clinton confession. The good news is the appropriate scientists are paying attention to this and considering contingencies. The rest of us need do no more than add this to the end of our prayers for the next 8 years. Sounds like we'll know more by then than I'd hoped. Then we either get to forget about Apophis or move it to the top of our prayers. And watch the rest of the world look for America to save them, again. At least that would wipe global warming and a bunch of other bunk off the front pages. Not to mention real problems merely the scope of Katrina or the Tsunami. It might even be enough to resume Project Orion research as a backup option. A little fallout doesn't sound so bad compared to a great big sure fall down.
20 posted on 11/02/2005 7:42:29 PM PST by JohnBovenmyer
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