Posted on 08/18/2005 5:17:34 PM PDT by curiosity
I'd call anybody who thinks the state has the power to order the death of citizens who have committed no crime my political enemy. I'd call anybody who thinks the government has a "right" to take my money for the utilitarian purpose of creating human life to destroy it my political enemy. And I'd call anybody implying that President Bush might order ID be taught as a replacement fot the ToE a lunatic as well as my political enemy.
Well said.
It's going to be a little hard to persuade India, Japan, most of Europe, Israel etc to stop research and buy into this stuff.
Progress will happen, just not here.
Most of those guys actually paid for the "bill of goods". DVD's, tapes, books, ...
No, I am saying my God can do a lot better than as design we are only one generation away from surpassing.
Money Quote, speaking of the God of Inteligent Design "Their God is a science-fiction God, a high-I.Q. space alien plodding along a decade or two ahead of our understanding. The God of Judaism and Christianity is infinitely vaster and stranger than that, and far above our poking, groping inquiries into the furniture of our rocky little daytime cosmos."
So9
"Accepting Jesus as Lord has nothing to do with it. Rejecting the evidence He left us in His creation is what makes you a crackpot.
There is no conflict between Christianity and evolution."
????????? and I thought this was about ID hurting conservatives. What brand of Christianity do you hail from?
Do you think anyone here believes that lie?
It's always best to go to the Source on these things, and English, Greek, Latin and Hebrew are entirely too recent a creation to be used very well to evaluate Divine revelations.
" Dig deeper the verb "was" is not the correct verb, should be "became", was not created that way "formless and void"
Where?
The Earth became formless and void?
darkness became over the surface of the deep?
or, the Spirit of God became over the surface of the waters?
What are "the waters" do you know?
You said: The flaws of mankind are too obvious and too plentiful. These flaws alone should have squashed the ID theory.
Perhaps among the flaws of mankind is the inability to articulate the concept of ID. If the ID theory were that man created everything your statement would have more validity, IMO.
It seems to me that in every crevice of missing knowledge and understanding of science, there is room for a Creator. These crevices don't prove the existence of God, they only fail to exclude Him.
I don't even approach any expertise in science of any kind, but am I not correct that evolution deals with the development of life from one form into another, and not the origins of life itself? Has anyone created life out of nothing? Or even out of non-living matter? If not, I don't see how even scientists can exclude the possiblity that an unknown Being created life.
Statements that provide comic relief for the Lord
That Derbyshire article reminds me of articles I have read (in a historical context, years after the events) about how amazingly wonderful a stock buy General Atomics is! Mortgage the house and Buy It Now!
What else could you call such crackpots?
US?
You speak for YOURSELF
Yet, I feel sometimes compelled to do the impossible: educate ID'ers about science. The goal, months and years ago, was not to have conservatives tarred by their brush, lest the leftist MSM would use ID aginst conservatives.
But no! Thanks to those of my fellow conservatives who are also intellectually-limited religious zealots, The MSM is beginning to paint all conservatives as akin to the "American Taliban."
Is "most people" a mouse you keep in your poicket?
Scientists don't exclude that possibility.
Compare it to the birth of a baby. Once, people just thought the stork brought them but now we know about insemination, cell division, genetics and a lot of other details. Much better to know the details rather than just say God did it. That is what the creos/ID'ers are pushing. Just stop the progress and say God did it. Stupid.
I did not state that scientists question evolution. I stated precisely the opposite: that most every one, including myself, did not question the facts easily observed and reported on regarding evolution and natural selection within species. You must have skimmed my message or merely chose not to address the distinction.
So, you unwittingly proved my point: To the cult of evolution there is no equivocation, there is no room for grays, there is no room for doubt nor questioning nor debate around the issues. It is the religious cultic faith of evolution wholesale with all its garbage or it is nothing. Reread my original post. Stop passing judgement trying to dismiss thoughtful posts with quick one-liners to make yourself feel better about your superior wit and intellect.
Rich; from all the DVD's they have sold.
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