[mtbopfuyn]

Creepy, no. Sick, disgusting, and very scary is a start.

[Shawndell Green]

Lately, I have been finding Peggy creepy.

[Loyal Buckeye]

The Libs think Clinton is helping GHWB improve his image.

[parcel_of_rogues]

This is another Rovian plot.

If you embrace Bill it suggests that all the evil we associated with him were all because of Hillary. This 'relationship' with the Bushes marginalizes her.

[Vaquero]

"Rivers and seas boiling! … The dead rising from the grave! ... Human sacrifice! Dogs and cats living together!" Dr. Peter Venkman....Ghostbuster

[trebb]

Perhaps it's just one of the ways they try to carry God's message to the sinners in hope of having a positive impact. Jesus hung around the human trash because they needed His help and influence more than others (the sick need the doctor, not the well). Let's just pray is has some effect.

[sine_nomine]

It reminds me of the old insult, "You will either die on the gallows or of a loathsome disease." The rejoinder was, "It depends on whether I embrace your principles or your mistress."

The Clintons should be avoided at all times. They crave acceptance and do not deserve it.

McCain is another disgrace (a perpetual one at that) going on a tree-hugging junket with Hillary.

[browardchad]

What bothers me about the fervid friendship of the Bushes and Mr. Clinton--and the media celebration of it--is the faint whiff of superiority, a sense they radiate that all those slightly icky little people running around wailing about issues--tax reform, the relation of the individual to the state, the necessary character of a president--and working the precincts are somehow . . . a little below them. There is an air of condescension toward that grubby thing, belief. Those who hold it are not elevated, don't quite fit into the high-minded nonpartisan brotherhood. When in fact the people doing the day-to-day work of democracy, and who are in it because they are impelled by deep belief and philosophy, are actually not below them at all, and perhaps above them. Not that they're on the cover of People hugging, but at least they're serious.

It is the suggestion, or the suspicion, that these men have grown close because they are not serious, were never quite serious, that grates. That makes one wonder. That leaves some Republicans, and I have to assume more than a few Democrats, scratching their heads when they see Newt smiling with Hillary, and John McCain giggling with Hillary. It leaves you wondering: Why are these people laughing?

Noonan pretty much captures the essence of modern politics, where ideological differences are only skin deep -- until elections roll around, of course, and all those "icky little people" must be persuaded there is actually some reason to vote.

[funkywbr]

Maybe Bush I is longing for a BJ and wants to learn the intricacies of Cigar dipping?

[Liberty Valance]

They're ALL starting to creep me out.

[toomanygrasshoppers]

Like they say, keep your friends close and your enemies closer. I don't think that there is true friendship between the Clintons and Bushs. The Bushs are too smart for that. IMHO

[iconoclast]

In our conversation someone called the growing chumminess "creepy"

For "creepiness" nothing will ever touch the Matlin/Carville combo.

Folks, the typical FReeper froths at the mouth like Pavlov's dog at the mention of the dreaded word Democrat.

But there are only two political camps in 21st century America .... politicians and suckers.

[Mia T]

WHY DID BILL CLINTON IGNORE TERRORISM?
Was it simply the constraints of his liberal mindset, or was it something even more threatening to our national security?

Peggy has it exactly right.
Did Bush 41 forget what he said in '92?

Shame. He should know better.

Washington mutual protection racket
writ large.
In real time.
In our homes.
It IS sickening.

Doesn't Bush 41
know he's lending legitimacy
to that dangerous grotesquerie
hovering like a vulture
above
the rotting carcass,
(the body politic)?

We must clean house.
Get rid of the careerists.
All of them.

Post 9/11,
we no longer have the luxury
to coddle self-interest,
whether clinton pathological
or Bush benign.

 

 

THE CLINTONS--AMERICA'S BIGGEST BLUNDER
Hear Bush 41 Warn Us--October 19, 1992*

 

 

 

 

hear
*Thanx to Cloud William for text and audio

 

 

LEHRER: President Bush, your closing statement, sir.

PRESIDENT BUSH: Three weeks from now--two weeks from tomorrow, America goes to the polls and you're going to have to decide who you want to lead this country ...

On foreign affairs, some think it's irrelevant. I believe it's not. We're living in an interconnected world...And if a crisis comes up, ask who has the judgment and the experience and, yes, the character to make the right decision?

And, lastly, the other night on character Governor Clinton said it's not the character of the president but the character of the presidency. I couldn't disagree more. Horace Greeley said the only thing that endures is character. And I think it was Justice Black who talked about great nations, like great men, must keep their word.

And so the question is, who will safeguard this nation, who will safeguard our people and our children? I need your support, I ask for your support. And may God bless the United States of America.

(Applause)

 

deconstructing clinton… "just because I could"


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FOOL ME ONCE, SHAME ON YOU! FOOL ME TWICE, SHAME ON ME!

 

[auggy]

You would be friends too, if Clinton had the FBI file on you. Especially, if you had something to hide.

[WoofDog123]

by every account I have read, bill clinton is VERY charismatic in person, so this is not too surprising.

If hillary wins in 2008, we are on track for 24-28 years of presidents from the same 2 immediate families.

[CyberAnt]

I wish people would get a grip. The senior President Bush is from the old school .. of diplo-speak, being friendly with your adversaries.

That said .. please also remember that even though Bill Clinton was impeached - he's still a former president. I firmly believe this is about THE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENCY - and not anything personal. In fact, we need to leave anything personal out of it. It's a restoration of the status of THE OFFICE.

Bill Clinton has sullied THE OFFICE - therefore, the Sr. Bush is trying to remove the smear from THE OFFICE - not the person of Clinton. Actually, I think this is a good thing. Clinton needs to learn some manners - and Clinton needs to learn what his obligations are regarding THE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENCY.

I know, I know .. it's hard to separate the two (personal and office) - but we would be less frustrated with Bill and George HW's relationship if we would try to understand the real goal - restoration of respect for the office and not Clinton's personal reputation.

[mercy]

This stinks.

I can never fully trust the Bush clan.

They swim too well and too freely in the foetid DC swamp of power whores.

[thathamiltonwoman]

It's not creepy so much as disheartening. How can the Bushes be friendly towards such a person as Bill Clinton? Frankly, if Hillary wins in 2008 I won't be shocked at all.