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New Orleans in Anarchy With Fights, Rapes
AP ^ | 9/1/05

Posted on 09/01/2005 5:57:30 PM PDT by Uncle Joe Cannon

New Orleans in Anarchy With Fights, Rapes

Friday September 2, 2005 12:46 AM

AP Photo MSDP112

By ALLEN G. BREED

Associated Press Writer

NEW ORLEANS (AP) - New Orleans descended into anarchy Thursday, as corpses lay abandoned in street medians, fights and fires broke out and storm survivors battled for seats on the buses that would carry them away from the chaos. The tired and hungry seethed, saying they had been forsaken. ``This is a desperate SOS,'' mayor Ray Nagin said.

``We are out here like pure animals,'' the Rev. Issac Clark said outside the New Orleans Convention Center, where he and other evacuees had been waiting for buses for days amid the filth and the dead.

``I'm not sure I'm going to get out of here alive,'' said tourist Larry Mitzel of Saskatoon, Canada, who handed a reporter his business card in case he goes missing. ``I'm scared of riots. I'm scared of the locals. We might get caught in the crossfire.''

Four days after Hurricane Katrina roared in with a devastating blow that inflicted potentially thousands of deaths, the frustration, fear and anger mounted, despite the promise of 1,400 National Guardsmen a day to stop the looting, plans for a $10 billion recovery bill in Congress and a government relief effort President Bush called the biggest in U.S. history.

New Orleans' top emergency management official called that effort a ``national disgrace'' and questioned when reinforcements would actually reach the increasingly lawless city.

About 15,000 to 20,000 people who had taken shelter at New Orleans convention center grew increasingly hostile after waiting for buses for days amid the filth and the dead. Police Chief Eddie Compass said he sent in 88 officers to quell the situation at the building, but they were quickly driven back by an angry mob.

``We have individuals who are getting raped, we have individuals who are getting beaten,'' Compass said. ``Tourists are walking in that direction and they are getting preyed upon.''

A military helicopter tried to land at the convention center several times to drop off food and water. But the rushing crowd forced the choppers to back off. Troopers then tossed the supplies to the crowd from 10 feet off the ground and flew away.

In hopes of defusing the situation at the convention center, Mayor Ray Nagin gave the refugees permission to march across a bridge to the city's unflooded west bank for whatever relief they could find. But the bedlam made that difficult.

``This is a desperate SOS,'' Nagin said in a statement. ``Right now we are out of resources at the convention center and don't anticipate enough buses.''

At least seven bodies were scattered outside the convention center, a makeshift staging area for those rescued from rooftops, attics and highways. The sidewalks were packed with people without food, water or medical care, and with no sign of law enforcement.

An old man in a chaise lounge lay dead in a grassy median as hungry babies wailed around him. Around the corner, an elderly woman lay dead in her wheelchair, covered up by a blanket, and another body lay beside her wrapped in a sheet.

``I don't treat my dog like that,'' 47-year-old Daniel Edwards said as he pointed at the woman in the wheelchair.

``You can do everything for other countries, but you can't do nothing for your own people,'' he added. ``You can go overseas with the military, but you can't get them down here.''

The street outside the center, above the floodwaters, smelled of urine and feces, and was choked with dirty diapers, old bottles and garbage.

``They've been teasing us with buses for four days,'' Edwards said. ``They're telling us they're going to come get us one day, and then they don't show up.''

Every so often, an armored state police vehicle cruised in front of the convention center with four or five officers in riot gear with automatic weapons. But there was no sign of help from the National Guard.

At one point the crowd began to chant ``We want help! We want help!'' Later, a woman, screaming, went on the front steps of the convention center and led the crowd in reciting the 23rd Psalm, ``The Lord is my shepherd ...''

``We are out here like pure animals,'' the Issac Clark said.

``We've got people dying out here - two babies have died, a woman died, a man died,'' said Helen Cheek. ``We haven't had no food, we haven't had no water, we haven't had nothing. They just brought us here and dropped us.''

Tourist Debbie Durso of Washington, Mich., said she asked a police officer for assistance and his response was, ``'Go to hell - it's every man for himself.'''

``This is just insanity,'' she said. ``We have no food, no water ... all these trucks and buses go by and they do nothing but wave.''

At the hot and stinking Superdome, where 30,000 were being evacuated by bus to the Houston Astrodome, fistfights and fires erupted amid a seething sea of tense, suffering people who waited in a lines that stretched a half-mile to board yellow school buses.

After a traffic jam kept buses from arriving for nearly four hours, a near-riot broke out in the scramble to get on the buses that finally did show up, with a group of refugees breaking through a line of heavily armed National Guardsmen.

One military policeman was shot in the leg as he and a man scuffled for the MP's rifle, police Capt. Ernie Demmo said. The man was arrested.

Some of those among the mostly poor crowd had been in the dome for four days without air conditioning, working toilets or a place to bathe. An ambulance service airlifting the sick and injured out of the Superdome suspended flights as too dangerous after it was reported that a bullet was fired at a military helicopter.

``If they're just taking us anywhere, just anywhere, I say praise God,'' said refugee John Phillip. ``Nothing could be worse than what we've been through.''

By Thursday evening, 11 hours after the military began evacuating the Superdome, the arena held 10,000 more people than it did at dawn. National Guard Capt. John Pollard said evacuees from around the city poured into the Superdome and swelled the crowd to about 30,000 because they believed the arena was the best place to get a ride out of town.

As he watched a line snaking for blocks through ankle-deep waters, New Orleans' emergency operations chief Terry Ebbert blamed the inadequate response on the Federal Emergency Management Agency.

``This is not a FEMA operation. I haven't seen a single FEMA guy,'' he said. He added: ``We can send massive amounts of aid to tsunami victims, but we can't bail out the city of New Orleans.''

FEMA officials said some operations had to be suspended in areas where gunfire has broken out.

A day after Nagin took 1,500 police officers off search-and-rescue duty to try to restore order in the streets, there were continued reports of looting, shootings, gunfire and carjackings - and not all the crimes were driven by greed.

When some hospitals try to airlift patients, Coast Guard Lt. Cmdr. Cheri Ben-Iesan said, ``there are people just taking potshots at police and at helicopters, telling them, `You better come get my family.'''

Outside a looted Rite-Aid drugstore, some people were anxious to show they needed what they were taking. A gray-haired man who would not give his name pulled up his T-shirt to show a surgery scar and explained that he needs pads for incontinence.

``I'm a Christian. I feel bad going in there,'' he said.

Earl Baker carried toothpaste, toothbrushes and deodorant. ``Look, I'm only getting necessities,'' he said. ``All of this is personal hygiene. I ain't getting nothing to get drunk or high with.''

While floodwaters in the city appeared to stabilize, efforts continued to plug three breaches that had opened up in the levee system that protects this below-sea-level city.

Helicopters dropped sandbags into the breach and pilings were being pounded into the mouth of the canal Thursday to close its connection to Lake Pontchartrain, state Transportation Secretary Johnny Bradberry said. He said contractors had completed building a rock road to let heavy equipment roll to the area by midnight.

The next step called for using about 250 concrete road barriers to seal the gap.

In Washington, the White House said Bush will tour the devastated Gulf Coast region on Friday and has asked his father, former President George H.W. Bush, and former President Clinton to lead a private fund-raising campaign for victims.

The president urged a crackdown on the lawlessness.

``I think there ought to be zero tolerance of people breaking the law during an emergency such as this - whether it be looting, or price gouging at the gasoline pump, or taking advantage of charitable giving or insurance fraud,'' Bush said. ``And I've made that clear to our attorney general. The citizens ought to be working together.''

Donald Dudley, a 55-year-old New Orleans seafood merchant, complained that when he and other hungry refugees broke into the kitchen of the convention center and tried to prepare food, the National Guard chased them away.

``They pulled guns and told us we had to leave that kitchen or they would blow our damn brains out,'' he said. ``We don't want their help. Give us some vehicles and we'll get ourselves out of here!''

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To: Years_o_Lurkin

http://www.emergency.com/la-riots.htm
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According to California Governor Pete Wilson, he has activated more than 2,000 National Guardsmen to help quell the rampage in Los Angeles. The Guardsman are reportedly members of Military Police Units and are said to be armed with sidearms and M-16 rifles. Police spokespersons indicate that the Gueardsmen have not been used for law enforcement duties, but to secure areas that have been previously cleared by police. An unidentified Army Sergeant was reported to have said that the guard is "on stand-by" awaiting the orders of police officials.

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As lawlessness continued, President George Bush called for calm and a stop to "anarchy" on the streets of Los Angeles. He said that he had conferred with U.S. Attorney william Barr, Mayor Tom Bradley, and Governor Pete Wilson in an effort to provide whatever assistance might be needed to stop the senseless arson, violence, and looting. President Bush is said to have several key staff members monitoring the situation closely and available to provide federal assistance should it be needed.

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As 4,000 regular Army troops and 1,000 federal law enforcement officers move into Los Angeles, people have begun to actually assess the severity of this latest day of "revolution". They find thirty-eight (38) people dead, 1,250 people injuried, 3,600 structural fires, hundreds of businesses looted and closed, and more than 3,000 people arrested. At least four (4) police officers and three (3) firefighters have been shot and hundreds of other injuried as they attempted to control the fires and lawlessness of the past three days.

A "Dusk to Dawn" curfew has been imposed by Mayor Tom Bradley, in an effort to prevent citizens from congregating into the groups that have controlled the streets in recent days. The curfew also finally has "teeth" as 4,000 California National Guardsmen assist the police in securing areas of previous violence. This evening, the National Guard Units were also "federalized" by President Bush and supplemented by another 4,000 Army and Marine troops with orders to act as "Light-Infantry" and to "return fire if fired upon".

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Notice the Guardsman did not act as "policemen" but to guard secured areas.
The progression..and the conferring with the Governor and the Mayor came before he acted...along with the Attorney General..


551 posted on 09/02/2005 10:03:20 AM PDT by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: Grampa Dave; MEG33
Thanks for bringing it up.

I'm glad I did. You and MEG33 are going to force me to create a new folder if you keep it up. (what a tragedy)

552 posted on 09/02/2005 10:07:29 AM PDT by TigersEye (If you know the disciple there is no need to meet the Master.)
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To: TigersEye

For 2 cents, I will let you in on Grampa Dave's Secret.

When something historical comes up or a question like the Federalizing the National Guard, I use the best search machine on the internet. Yahoo.com and its search.

Yahoo.com's search is easier, faster and often more accurate than Google and the other searches. Below is the link to the Yahoo Search on "Federalizing the Nation Guard":

http://search.yahoo.com/bin/search?p=Federalizing%20the%20National%20Guard


553 posted on 09/02/2005 10:08:19 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Jamie Gorelick is responsible for more dead Americans(9-11) than those killed in Iraq.)
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To: TigersEye

Google is Great!


554 posted on 09/02/2005 10:11:32 AM PDT by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: MEG33
The implication of what you are saying (to follow the logic of those who think the President is being bashed) is that if the Gov. of LA and the Mayor of NO are too dumb or too stubborn to ask for help then the President (and the rest of the Fed Gov) will have to sit on their thumbs and watch NO go up in flames like the rest of us. I have doubts about that.

I have heard on the radio that Pres. Bush is heading down there today to 'conference' with 'local' officials. Perhaps he was invited but it sounded more like he had had enough and was going to go twist some arms. In the end the law will be followed, IOWs the 'local' officials will get to say "we asked the Pres. for help," but the reality will be that Pres. Bush opened a can of whoop-ass on them.

Those LA Dem pols are playing a game of 'drop the ball and blame the Republican Pres.' but it looks like he's going to publically put the ball back in play, put it back in their court and then they can hang on their own petards if they drop it again.

555 posted on 09/02/2005 10:20:11 AM PDT by TigersEye (If you know the disciple there is no need to meet the Master.)
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To: Grampa Dave

No kidding!? Thank you verrry much. I have used nothing but Google for 2-3 years now. I even use yahoo as a mail client so I see their buttons all the time but never was inclined to use the search function. Excellent!


556 posted on 09/02/2005 10:23:42 AM PDT by TigersEye (If you know the disciple there is no need to meet the Master.)
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To: TigersEye

Try it. You will probably like it.

One of the fun things to do is when a writer or pseudo writer makes an outrageous attack on GW, run a search on it to see the long pattern of such attacks.


557 posted on 09/02/2005 10:27:04 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Jamie Gorelick is responsible for more dead Americans(9-11) than those killed in Iraq.)
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To: RightWinger

>>I wasn't referring to those who couldn't leave, I was referring to those who wouldn't leave.>>

I agree, stubborness has it's own penalty sometimes.

I apologize too. Emotions are high right now.

Take care and I hope your wife's family is ok!!!


558 posted on 09/02/2005 10:29:03 AM PDT by sandbar
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To: Grampa Dave

..I use Yahoo for news, email and Tvguide..I did not see the search feature..Thanks! I cannot believe I missed it..


559 posted on 09/02/2005 10:30:16 AM PDT by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: Grampa Dave
When I read an outrageous attack on anyone I usually feel like I've read all of that author I need to. But I get drift. I definitely will try yahoo search. I had a couple of s. engines I really liked when Google came along and it took a while to give it a real shot but it really was a big step up. Search is one of the best things happening on the net.
560 posted on 09/02/2005 10:36:27 AM PDT by TigersEye (BBQ is the answer.)
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To: MEG33

Try it.

It is so easy to use and so fast. Seldom do you have to do an advanced search.

I use it to find the sites for businesses, reviews on products and the best prices on products.

We love the Cadburry (sp) Dark Chocolate Bar that is made in England. Every fall I find the best deal I can and have it delivered. The bars have no perservatives and should only be shipped in the fall and winter.

If whatever you need to know has been published and posted on a website, the Yahoo search can find it. Also, I haven't seen the left wing censorship/manipulation that apparently Google has done on some searches as posted on Free Republic.


561 posted on 09/02/2005 10:37:18 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Jamie Gorelick is responsible for more dead Americans(9-11) than those killed in Iraq.)
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To: RightWinger

The U.S. Postal Service announced this morning that evacuees at the Astrodome will be able to receive mail as early as Saturday.

The service created a special ZIP code to handle the mail: 77230.

Anyone who thinks they may have a friend or loved one sheltered at the Astrodome should address letters by name, with the address General Delivery, Houston, TX 77230.

Just saw this..I pray all are found safe.


562 posted on 09/02/2005 10:39:19 AM PDT by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: MEG33

Thanks for posting this history of the call up in LA. Pete Wilson, our governor did the call up.

However, he and Mayor Bradley apparently made sure our guardsmen had no rounds in their guns. The same thing that Gray Davis did with Guardsmen after 9/11 in our airports.


563 posted on 09/02/2005 10:40:28 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Jamie Gorelick is responsible for more dead Americans(9-11) than those killed in Iraq.)
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To: Grampa Dave

I just tried it..I liked it!


564 posted on 09/02/2005 10:41:45 AM PDT by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: Grampa Dave

Interesting..No wonder the Guard was not assigned police duty.Unarmed the Guard would be helpless..


565 posted on 09/02/2005 10:46:57 AM PDT by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: RightWinger

I am so sorry to hear that you and your wife have loved ones in NO! I'll say a prayer that you hear from them, or get word somehow, that they are safe.

I also understand where you're coming from as to those folks who chose to stay. They made an error in judgement and I pray they live to learn from it.

We have also donated money and I pray that everyone who can will send whatever they can to help our fellow Americans.

God bless you and your family, chena


566 posted on 09/02/2005 10:47:23 AM PDT by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything)
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To: TigersEye; MEG33

Here is a little humor on a call up our Ca National Guard by Ronald Reagan to protect students at the Cal Berkley anti Nam uprising.

One of my oldest Ca friends was a young corporal in the National Guard. They went in with no bullets too.

During a tense moment some young good looking female college students removed their blouses and bras. Then, they walked in front of the stunned guardsmen and stuffed flowers down the barrels of their rifles.

Finally their Sarg recovered and ordered them to remove the flowers. One of the guardsmen replied, "At least now I have something in the barrel of my rifle!"

When my friend removed the flower in his barrel, he noticed a little white piece of paper rolled up and scotch taped on the flower stem.

It was the phone # of the coed who put the flower in his rifle barrel. It said call me. He did and they had a great fling for a couple of years.


567 posted on 09/02/2005 10:48:02 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Jamie Gorelick is responsible for more dead Americans(9-11) than those killed in Iraq.)
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To: TigersEye; MEG33

Here is a little humor on a call up our Ca National Guard by Ronald Reagan to protect students at the Cal Berkley anti Nam uprising.

One of my oldest Ca friends was a young corporal in the National Guard. They went in with no bullets too.

During a tense moment some young good looking female college students removed their blouses and bras. Then, they walked in front of the stunned guardsmen and stuffed flowers down the barrels of their rifles.

Finally their Sarg recovered and ordered them to remove the flowers. One of the guardsmen replied, "At least now I have something in the barrel of my rifle!"

When my friend removed the flower in his barrel, he noticed a little white piece of paper rolled up and scotch taped on the flower stem.

It was the phone # of the coed who put the flower in his rifle barrel. It said call me. He did and they had a great fling for a couple of years.


568 posted on 09/02/2005 10:48:05 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Jamie Gorelick is responsible for more dead Americans(9-11) than those killed in Iraq.)
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To: Grampa Dave

I could use some humor ..Thanks.


569 posted on 09/02/2005 10:51:18 AM PDT by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: Grampa Dave

Ha, that's a great story! Sounds like she knew how to win over a soldier's heart. ;^)


570 posted on 09/02/2005 11:12:40 AM PDT by TigersEye (BBQ is the answer.)
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To: Nov3
The water is contaminated with chemicals etc. that boiling doesn't touch. If they get some rain . . . .

Already answered. See #365. Read the thread.

571 posted on 09/02/2005 11:15:05 AM PDT by TXnMA (Iraq & Afghanistan: Bush's "Bug-Zappers"...)
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To: TigersEye

These gals were apparently real college students with a sense of humor and adventure.

One of them asked his squad, "Are those pickles in your uniforms or are you just happy to see us!"

My friend still laughs about it, and apparently he and his squad received commendations for their professional behavior at the great Berkley stand off.


572 posted on 09/02/2005 11:19:39 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Jamie Gorelick is responsible for more dead Americans(9-11) than those killed in Iraq.)
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To: Popman

So the first question to the good rev:

"you undoubtedly have a large check for the red cross in your wallet from Rainblow Pusher, just how many millions is it for?"


573 posted on 09/02/2005 12:03:33 PM PDT by mrmargaritaville
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To: TigersEye
Anything else you'd like to share?

Only that I'm a moron. Confused you with someone else. Please accept my apologies.

574 posted on 09/02/2005 12:49:53 PM PDT by bad company (what the hell happened to the 11th commandment?)
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To: RoseD; hoboken109
Hope your not asking DJ MacWoW what to do! His response is nothing! Oh but send money if you have time sooner or later! Don't step in and help immediately! According to DJ Mac WoW

RoseD, It's FR manners to "ping" someone if you're going to talk about them.

I never told you not to step in and help. I even gave you a number to call so you could volunteer. You're response? I'm calling and i'm going! Thanks so much for the info! You are being disingenuous.

575 posted on 09/02/2005 3:32:49 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: TXnMA
You're the master. If we dropped you buck naked in the artic circle tomorrow you would be poolside in Santa Monica wearing a fur thong.

But for the rest of us girly men we would prefer the guard to show up with some bottled water.

576 posted on 09/02/2005 3:32:50 PM PDT by Nov3 ("This is the best election night in history." --DNC chair Terry McAuliffe Nov. 2,2004 8p.m.)
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To: bad company
Only that I'm a moron. Confused you with someone else. Please accept my apologies.

No you're not. Stuff just happens. Apology accepted and appreciated but not necessary. There's a few tigers on FR but ONLY ONE TIGERSEYE! LOL Have a great night.

577 posted on 09/02/2005 5:19:54 PM PDT by TigersEye (BBQ is the answer.)
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To: TXnMA
Here's your epitaph:

"Bush didn't bring me a drink."

LOL Didn't Teddy Kennedy say that first?

578 posted on 09/02/2005 5:25:09 PM PDT by TigersEye (BBQ is the answer.)
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To: little jeremiah
Those who could have done something did indeed know exactly what would happen, and they did not plan properly. To put it very mildly.

Planning could have been better.
But I really don't think anybody could have foreseen how bad this really has become.

579 posted on 09/02/2005 6:01:46 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Chena

I guess I've never understood the thrill of going to a hurricaine zone for a vacation.


580 posted on 09/02/2005 6:31:18 PM PDT by thathamiltonwoman
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To: Chena
"Guess you missed the hundreds of news reports that explained about those "poor unfortunate people". Apparently many of them are "poor, unforunate people" who could not evacuate. No transportation, no money, etc. It was all over the news before Katrina even hit and since then as well. And of course there's the old folks, hospital patients, and newborn babies. Dang it, guess they just didn't get their acts together."

I will be one to say they were let down. I've seen the pictures of the unused and neatly parked buses. I can see where people are being housed away from the mess NOW. Don't tell me they had not the means to go and nowhere to be. That is BS! This may have to be excused this time but it better not happen again.

Not directed at you personaly, end rant for now.

581 posted on 09/02/2005 6:48:28 PM PDT by Dust in the Wind (I've got peace like a river. . .)
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To: thathamiltonwoman

I'm sure you probably know that I was being sarcastic, but just in case, let me confirm it. :) Also, I don't think every tourist had just flown in for the hurricane. I have heard tourists on television who sounded quite sincere that they were there on vacation (before the big news of a hurricane coming) and couldn't get out due to flights being cancelled.


582 posted on 09/02/2005 7:07:19 PM PDT by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything)
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To: TigersEye
Actually I was thinking of marshaling together the spell-checkers here and seeing if they wanted to start a petition to impeach the President for mispronunciation.

Lighten up, Francis. We are all in this together. One of these guys might save your life one of these days.

583 posted on 09/03/2005 7:31:03 PM PDT by Tennessean4Bush (An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds, a pessimist fears this is true.)
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To: Uncle Joe Cannon
Regrettably, this is coming to a city near you. Be prepared..... make sure you have extra, uhmmm, batteries.
584 posted on 09/03/2005 8:49:54 PM PDT by daguberment (The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish....)
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To: Tennessean4Bush

That sword cuts both ways, Cletus.


585 posted on 09/04/2005 5:53:11 PM PDT by TigersEye (BBQ is the answer.)
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To: TigersEye

The local Louisiana officials have been messin' with the bull, now here come the horns.


586 posted on 09/04/2005 5:55:37 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: daguberment

Megadittoes!


587 posted on 09/04/2005 5:57:15 PM PDT by Palladin (America! America! God shed His grace on Thee.)
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To: RckyRaCoCo

Remeber the gangs from Gross Pointe coming into Detroit and raising crime rates?


588 posted on 09/06/2005 5:14:52 AM PDT by Rhadaghast (Yeshua haMashiach hu Adonai Tsidkenu)
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