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Clarke attacks 'catastrophic' war (Tory Leadership Canidate attacks Blair over Iraq)
BBC ^ | Sept. 1 , 2005

Posted on 09/01/2005 8:51:49 PM PDT by Righty_McRight

Conservative leadership contender Ken Clarke has said Tony Blair made a "catastrophic error" in involving the UK in the war with Iraq.

The ex-chancellor, who opposed the war, said the reasons given for the UK supporting the war were "bogus".

The war had increased the threat to the UK from Islamic extremists, he said.

If Mr Blair believed there was no connection between his Iraq policy and the London bombs "he must be the only person left who thinks that", he said.

Mr Clarke also warned against "instant legislation" after terrorist attacks.

"There is no evidence that any bomb has gone off because of any gap in the law," he said.

"Whoever is in power over the next few years is going to find this (tackling the terrorist threat) is going to be number one on their agenda, over and over again," he told journalists at the Foreign Press Association.

"Disengagement from Iraq has to be part of a much larger and more sophisticated political programme than we are delivering at the moment. But this is all part of a much bigger picture."

US presidents

Mr Clarke referred to his experience serving in a Conservative government tackling the Northern Ireland terrorism threats, speaking of "several Parliamentary colleagues" he lost due to Irish terrorists.

He said the fight against Islamic extremist terrorists should not undermine the "fundamental belief" in the rule of law or give terrorists new grievances which they can exploit.

The government had to be honest about the threat and work with the whole democratic world to tackle the issue.

Mr Clarke said he was keen to "strengthen the alliance" with the US, but added that "US presidents are not always right".

He said the US "failure to prepare" for the consequences of the invasion had led to a "horrifying increase in terrorism".

There should be one independent scrutiny body reporting to parliament on anti-terrorisms powers, including the actions of police and the recent use of the "shoot to protect" policy.

Rival candidate

Referring to the Tory leadership battle, the former Tory chancellor said it was his aim make a "serious speech" and open debate among other contenders for what he called "big issues".

"Any future leader of the party or of the country had to be "capable of addressing these big issues," he said, while conceding that his competitors for the Conservative crown were all "very able men".

Also on Thursday, as the Conservative leadership race heats up, rival contender David Cameron interrupted a holiday to make a separate speech.

The shadow education secretary called for tax relief to make childcare more affordable to give women more choice in crucial decisions.

His aides say the timing - on the day of Mr Clarke's first major speech - is entirely coincidental.

Mr Clarke earlier dismissed suggestions he was too pro-European and too old, at 65, to replace Michael Howard.

He told the BBC's new political editor Nick Robinson he was "overwhelmingly more popular" than any of his rivals.

This is the Rushcliffe MP's third attempt to win the Tory leadership.

His pro-euro views were blamed for his defeats in 1997 and 2001 but he now says his enthusiasm for UK euro membership has cooled.

As well as Mr Cameron, Mr Clarke's other potential rivals include shadow cabinet ministers David Davis, Liam Fox, Andrew Lansley, Theresa May, Sir Malcolm Rifkind and David Willetts.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: kenclarke; tonyblair; uk

1 posted on 09/01/2005 8:51:52 PM PDT by Righty_McRight
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To: Righty_McRight
The Conservatives are sounding as nutty as the Liberal Democrats.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
2 posted on 09/01/2005 8:53:29 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

The stupid anti-war people are crazy. You wanna see catastrophic? Take a look to your ally the United States. There is a cataspthoy. The war deaths (in numbers, not significance) will pale to compare what we fear will come.


God Bless the Troops. God Bless America


3 posted on 09/01/2005 9:06:23 PM PDT by edmond246 (God Bless America)
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To: goldstategop

What an opportunist a**hole.


4 posted on 09/01/2005 9:09:21 PM PDT by lawnguy (It works Napoleon, you don't even know.)
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To: Righty_McRight

I guess the Tories no longer consider it an act of war when their pilots are shot at. What a disgrace they are to real Tories like Churchill and Disraeli.


5 posted on 09/01/2005 9:13:55 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: lawnguy

Can someone confirm for me if it is September 2005?? I am trying to figure out.

Or is it still March 2003?

Man, I am confused.


7 posted on 09/01/2005 9:15:01 PM PDT by Hess28
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To: William Creel

Is it still March 2003? I'm confused.


8 posted on 09/01/2005 9:16:19 PM PDT by Hess28
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To: Righty_McRight

Mr Clarke can go join Mr Haig in the pasture.

The Conservatives aren't getting anywhere near power so long as these Red Tories are allowed to hang around.


9 posted on 09/01/2005 9:20:04 PM PDT by decal ("The Republic was not established by cowards, and cowards will not preserve it")
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To: Righty_McRight

I wouldn't vote for the Tories if this is their leadership, I would vote for Blair.


10 posted on 09/01/2005 9:20:08 PM PDT by tomahawk (Proud to be an enemy of Islam (check out www.prophetofdoom.net))
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To: tomahawk

Ken Clarke is a europhile CINO and hopefully will be thrashed in the leadership election.


11 posted on 09/01/2005 9:25:08 PM PDT by GreenLanternCorps ("Dude, you've got some... Arzt on you..." - Hugo "Hurley" Reyes)
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To: goldstategop

Well, it seems like the White House shunning of the Conservative Party should go on for a bit longer, now doesn't it?


12 posted on 09/01/2005 9:28:58 PM PDT by Accygirl
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To: lawnguy
What an opportunist a**hole.

You may disagree with Kenneth Clarke, but in this case opportunism it is not.

He said the same thing before the War.

13 posted on 09/02/2005 12:20:18 AM PDT by cooper72
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