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It was Bush that asked the Gov and Mayor to order a mandatory evacuation, NOT their idea at all.
CNN ^ | Sunday, August 28, 2005; Posted: 11:47 a.m. EDT | CNN's David Mattingly, Susan Candiotti, Jacqui Jeras and Rob Marciano contributed to this report.

Posted on 09/02/2005 2:22:21 PM PDT by joinedafterattack

Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco said that it was President Bush that had called and urged the state to order the evacuation.

New Orleans orders evacuation Hurricane Katrina's winds nearly 175 mph

Sunday, August 28, 2005; Posted: 11:47 a.m. EDT (15:47 GMT)

NEW ORLEANS, Louisiana (CNN) -- New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin declared a state of emergency on Sunday and ordered a mandatory evacuation of the city as Hurricane Katrina churned toward the city with maximum sustained winds of nearly 175 mph.

All of Orleans Parish falls under the order except for necessary personnel in government, emergency and some other public service categories.

People who are unable to evacuate were told to immediately report to a designated shelter.

"I wish I had better news for you, but we are facing a storm that most of us have feared," Nagin said. "I do not want to create panic, but I do want the citizens to understand that this is very serious and it's of the highest nature."

Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco said that President Bush had called and urged the state to order the evacuation.

About 485,000 people live in the city, and many began evacuating before sunrise.

Blanco said that westbound traffic was heavy and that the state police was urging people to travel to the north or east.

Shelters have been set up at 10 sites, including the Superdome, for people who cannot leave the city for medical or other reasons, but Nagin said they should be used only as a "last resort." (See video from New Orleans, where not all are ready to leave)

He said people who must stay in the shelter should bring enough food, water and supplies to last several days.

The National Hurricane Center in Miami said low-lying areas along the Gulf Coast could expect storm surges of up to 25 feet as the Category 5 storm makes landfall early Monday.

Officials fear New Orleans is vulnerable because it sits an average of 6 feet below sea level. (Watch video of how New Orleans reacted to warning)

Nagin said the storm surge would likely topple the levy system that protects the city.

"It has the potential for a large loss of life," said Max Mayfield, director of the NHC. (Watch CNN meteorologist explain storm outlook)

Katrina is blamed for at least seven deaths in Florida, where it made landfall Thursday as a Category 1 hurricane. As much as 18 inches of rain fell in some areas, flooding streets and homes. (See video of the damage floodwaters left in one family's new house)

At 10 a.m. ET, Katrina was centered about 225 miles south-southeast of the mouth of the Mississippi River. It was moving to the west-northwest at about 12 mph.

NHC forecaster Ed Rappaport said Katrina's strength could fluctuate before it reaches shore but noted the difference between a high Category 4 and a low Category 5 was practically inconsequential.

"There will be extensive to potentially catastrophic damage to many structures ... and inland," he said. "We'll have a lot of trees that are going to come down, perhaps millions of trees. But the first threat is going to be the storm surge. You must get away from the coast now."

By 8:30 a.m. ET, the first bands of rain were falling over southeastern Louisiana.

CNN meteorologist Brad Huffines said the Katrina would come ashore "sometime between 5 a.m. and 8 a.m." Monday.

"The news doesn't get good, unfortunately," he said. "These rain showers will slow down the evacuation process, and that means you need to hit the road quickly, very quickly."

Worst-case scenario In worst-case scenarios, most of New Orleans would end up under 15 feet of water, without electricity, clean water and sewage for months. Even pumping the water out could take as long as four months to get started because the massive pumps that would do the job would be underwater.

"People in New Orleans tend to think that the storm we've always planned on would never come," Louisiana National Guard Lt. Col. Pete Schneider said. "But people need to heed that warning."

Rappaport cautioned that New Orleans was not the only area threatened -- the storm's hurricane winds spread out as far as 100 miles. As far east as Mobile, Alabama, forecasters warned of storm surges reaching 8 to 10 feet.

Hurricane warnings were posted from Morgan City, Louisiana, eastward to the Alabama-Florida state line, including New Orleans and Lake Pontchartrain. A hurricane warning means hurricane conditions, including winds of at least 74 mph, are expected in the warning area within the next 24 hours.

A tropical storm warning and a hurricane watch were issued from the Alabama-Florida state line eastward to Destin, Florida, and from west of Morgan City to Intracoastal City, Louisiana. Another tropical storm warning was issued Sunday from Intracoastal City, Louisiana, west to Cameron, Louisiana, and from Destin, Florida, eastward to Indian Pass, Florida.

A tropical storm warning means tropical storm conditions, including winds of at least 39 mph, are expected within 24 hours. A hurricane watch means hurricane conditions are possible, usually within 36 hours.

Governors of both Louisiana and Mississippi declared emergencies Friday in anticipation of the strengthening storm.

Robert Latham, director of the Mississippi Emergency Management Agency, said the state was recommending evacuations along the coast "and even several counties inland." Mandatory evacuations could follow later, he said.

Category 5 is the highest category on the Saffir-Simpson scale of hurricane intensity. Only three Category 5 hurricanes have made landfall in the United States since records were kept. Those were the Labor Day hurricane of 1935, 1969's Hurricane Camille and Hurricane Andrew, which devastated the Miami area in 1992. Andrew remains the costliest U.S. hurricane on record, with $26.5 billion in losses.

Camille came ashore in Mississippi and killed 256 people.

Oil production cut U.S. energy companies said U.S. Gulf of Mexico crude oil output was cut by more than one-third on Saturday due to the threatening storm, Reuters reported.

The Gulf of Mexico is home to roughly a quarter of U.S. domestic oil and gas output, with a capacity to produce about 1.5 million barrels per day of crude and 12.3 billion cubic feet per day of gas. (Full story)

Many oil platforms and rigs in the Gulf of Mexico have been evacuated. ((Watch the video of drilling crews securing rigs and seeking safety.)

CNN's David Mattingly, Susan Candiotti, Jacqui Jeras and Rob Marciano contributed to this report.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: blamegame; blanco; bush; cary; evacuation; hurricane; incompetence; katrina; katrinafailures; nagin; nagini; neworleans; neworleansflood; pajamapeoplerule
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To: bellas_sister

Check out @201


281 posted on 09/02/2005 10:54:08 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: joinedafterattack

what you are quoting that Bush ordered her is not in your link

not that i'd rather not believe you


282 posted on 09/02/2005 10:56:47 PM PDT by wardaddy (will a tort lawyer in Mississippi file class action against God now?)
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To: joinedafterattack

whoops...I am wrong....should be using my 1.25s

sorry


283 posted on 09/02/2005 10:57:54 PM PDT by wardaddy (will a tort lawyer in Mississippi file class action against God now?)
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To: joinedafterattack

I guess CNN just "forgot" to tell us this since Sunday!


284 posted on 09/02/2005 11:01:03 PM PDT by GeorgiaYankee (ABCNNBCBS: News for people who can't do a Google Search!)
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To: NormB
Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco said that President Bush had called and urged the state to order the evacuation.

Makes a good tagline, doesn't it? ;-)

285 posted on 09/02/2005 11:34:50 PM PDT by Nita Nupress ("LA Gov. Blanco said that Pres. Bush had called and urged the state to order the evacuation." (CNN)
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To: Paul C. Jesup

The media are already doing their best, and if it were not for them, the thug/feral human underclass would not have grown so stout.

There are many other assistants - liberals all. Various professions who feed off the continuing misery of others, politians who need the festering underclass for power and re-election. It goes on and on.

There's the thug who actually stabs or shoots, and then there are the many who enabled said thug to be able to do his deed. It's a network. Doesn't mean that any of them does not share responsibility. They are all responsible, and each of them can at any point decide to be a different person.

But the longer they remain as they are, the harder to change.

There is not only one danger, one enemy, one problem. But they are related. Like a poison diamond with many facets.


286 posted on 09/03/2005 12:27:19 AM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: LoofaBoy

If you had spent much time reading this forum over the last week, you'd know that what you just wrote is twaddle.

The only way to prevent the lower level of hell we've been reading about would have been to ruthlessly stop looting when it started. You can't stop it once it's out of control, and the looting soon turned to sniping, raping, arson and murder.

BTW, one of the first things the thugs went after were guns and ammo. Then liquor, then "pharmaceuticals" at drug stores. Then hospitals for drugs, and food... Nikes, TVs, jewelry. Sure, they took food, it takes fuel to go on rampages.

If honest citizenry needed food (which they did, primarily because of their own improvidence), SOME ONE or SOME ONES should have been in charge, taken food from stores in an orderly manner, and distributed it fairly. Instead of ruining it and hoarding it.

The local gov't screwed up so bad they are now complicit in the deaths of thousands.


287 posted on 09/03/2005 12:34:27 AM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: Deb

I suppose for some it is about partisan politics right to the bitter end. I just like to think that all of that gets set aside during times like these. Don't know where you live Deb but I'll bet it ain't in NO. Never missed an election yet bye the bye.


288 posted on 09/03/2005 12:38:08 AM PDT by LoofaBoy
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To: newzjunkey

CNN's weekend staff allowed this to slip through. It was posted to AP Wire, but the 100s of links to individual newspaper postings all share the "error 404 page not available message"


289 posted on 09/03/2005 2:24:52 AM PDT by A_Niceguy_in_CA
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To: cowdog77

You can bet everyone at the NHC saved that forecast map to their hard drives. Thanks.


290 posted on 09/03/2005 4:58:02 AM PDT by No Blue States
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To: hipaatwo

Just replayed Nagin's radio rant from Thursday on NBC

Jesse Jackson on NBC now : racial insensitivity, indifference, main focus relief, but we're still in the rescue mode. human chain formed around his bus to keep him from leaving them.

Lester: evacuation in NO some failure at the local level?

JJ's response: why are they sending people to houston, etc.
why can't we use military bases?

Lester: is this going to cause fundamental change and soul searching in this country when it's over

JJ's response: i don't know, focus on a few people in desperation - national rescue relocation has failed president has no plans for reconstruction we did philipines in 2 days haven't done it in 6 days here. open up gymnasiums - looks like the hull of a slave ship. i urge bush to get on the ground


291 posted on 09/03/2005 5:11:43 AM PDT by freema (Ready to Rock AND Roll)
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To: msnimje

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/08/28/national/main798819_page2.shtml


Bush Warns Of Katrina's Danger
(Page 1 of 2)

CRAWFORD, Texas, Aug. 29, 2005



Unease In The Big Easy


President Bush is handed a map by Deputy Chief of Staff Joe Hagin, center, during a video conference with emergency management organizations on Hurricane Katrina at his ranch Sunday, Aug. 28, 2005. (AP)



"It's a very dangerous situation at this point. ...We're ready and awaiting landfall."
FEMA spokeswoman Nicol Andrews


Katrina, a Category 5 hurricane over the Gulf of Mexico, barrels toward Louisiana at 175 mph. (AP)



(CBS/AP) President Bush on Sunday urged people living in the path of Hurricane Katrina to take the storm extremely seriously and to move to safer ground. "We cannot stress enough the danger this hurricane poses to Gulf Coast communities," said the president.

"We will do everything in our power to help the people and the communities affected by this storm," President Bush said as Katrina bore down on a stretch of coastline that includes New Orleans, a city sitting below sea level with 485,000 inhabitants. "I urge all citizens to put their own safety and the safety of their families first by moving to safe ground."

In addition to packing winds of up to nearly 175 mph, the category five storm also carried a threat of a massive storm surge.

Mr. Bush spoke with reporters on his central Texas ranch shortly after New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin ordered an immediate mandatory evacuation for all of New Orleans.

Late Sunday, President Bush pressed for an emergency declaration in Alabama, which would allow federal operations in. Florida, Louisiana and Mississippi were already declared disaster states, CBS News correspondent Mark Knoller reports.

Mr. Bush said he had spoken earlier Sunday with federal disaster management officials and with the governors of Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama and Florida.

"I appreciate the efforts of the governors to prepare their citizenry for this upcoming storm," Bush said. "I want to thank all the folks at the federal level and the state level who have taken this storm seriously."

A day after declaring an emergency for Louisiana, Mr. Bush declared one for the state of Mississippi. Federal emergency workers were sending water, food and other supplies to staging centers in the Southeast expected to be affected by the powerful storm.

"These declarations will allow federal agencies to coordinate all disaster relief efforts with state and local officials," Bush said.

In Washington, Nicol Andrews, a spokeswoman for the Federal Emergency Management Agency, said, "It's a very dangerous situation at this point. ...We're ready and awaiting landfall."

Mr. Bush declared states of emergency in Louisiana and Mississippi to facilitate the emergency response.

The American Red Cross was mobilizing volunteers from across the country for what one official called its largest response to a single disaster in many years.

Bush Warns Of Katrina's Danger
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CRAWFORD, Texas, Aug. 29, 2005



Unease In The Big Easy


President Bush is handed a map by Deputy Chief of Staff Joe Hagin, center, during a video conference with emergency management organizations on Hurricane Katrina at his ranch Sunday, Aug. 28, 2005. (AP)

(CBS/AP) "This is really an all-hands-on-deck scenario for the Red Cross right now," spokeswoman Carrie Martin said.

The Red Cross urged people, even those who think they are outside the storm's path, to prepare for an emergency.

"It could shift at any point. It's really a matter of not taking any chances, having the supplies in place," she said.

FEMA was moving supplies from logistics centers in Atlanta and Denton, Texas, to areas closer to where authorities believe the storm will create a need, Andrews said.

"The main priority right now is getting that stuff on the road and making sure that we have all the supplies that we have access to are in the right areas so that we can move in immediately," she said, adding that the agency knows "from 30 years' experience that these hurricanes are still largely unpredictable and can turn at a moment's notice."

The Red Cross encouraged people to turn to friends and family first rather than shelters because of the magnitude of the evacuation. Shelters should be for those who have nowhere else to go, Martin said.

...more at link


292 posted on 09/03/2005 5:19:13 AM PDT by freema (Ready to Rock AND Roll)
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To: True_wesT

"Look. They're going to try and impeach this President. Mark my words. This isn't like the Clinton impeachment: the press won't provide cover this time, they will be on the hunt."

"My point is that what the Democrats are doing is shameful, and we have to stick together and get ready for a long fight."

You said it. I wanted to. They've been waiting for this. Couldn't get up quite high enough to reach their golden bar just by stepping up on Casey Sheehans' body. But now they've got plenty, thanks to Nagin. What a freaken party. What vermin. Maggots.


293 posted on 09/03/2005 5:30:22 AM PDT by freema (Ready to Rock AND Roll)
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To: timestax

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294 posted on 09/03/2005 5:34:14 AM PDT by timestax
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To: bethtopaz

Same here. On the front lines....

and no flak jacket except my research.


295 posted on 09/03/2005 5:43:19 AM PDT by freema (Ready to Rock AND Roll)
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To: joinedafterattack

ping


296 posted on 09/03/2005 5:43:54 AM PDT by Cruz
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To: timestax

bttt


297 posted on 09/03/2005 6:06:03 AM PDT by timestax
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To: SauronOfMordor

"Anybody with any brains didn't wait." Beg to differ. They've got brains. They chose not to use them.

I saw a woman from Baton Rouge bawling, looking for and finding her 70+ year old dad after looking and looking thru the shelters. WHY didn't she go down and get him before the storm hit?

One nearby county to an affected area (not sure which sstate) has already enrolled 200 children in it's schools and is enrolling 400 more-

and there is one little kid at the dome (I've seen him a couple times spewing RATS talking points DIFFERENT ONES!!!)ON CAMERA SAYING THIS IS RIDICULOUS".

Yes, it surely is, when one considers some folks thought ahead.


298 posted on 09/03/2005 6:06:29 AM PDT by freema (Ready to Rock AND Roll)
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To: joinedafterattack
so Mayor Girly-man was WELL aware of what was coming

"Nagin said the storm surge would likely topple the levy system that protects the city."

and then he just sat on his hands(or loaded another rock into his pipe)
299 posted on 09/03/2005 6:08:24 AM PDT by snuffy smiff ("the theory of Communism may be summed up in a single sentence:abolition of private property"-K.Marx)
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To: joinedafterattack
cNN COMPLETELY CHANGED THE ORIGINAL ARTICLE. hIT THE CLICK HERE TO PRINT YOU WILL FIND A DIFFERENT ARTICLE WITH THE bUSH CALLS TO THEM REMOVED. cAN YOU DO A REPOST TO PROVE WHAT THEY DID AT CNN, THE AFTER THE FACTS EDITING. (sorry bout the caplock button didn't want after the facts editing)
300 posted on 09/03/2005 6:09:39 AM PDT by badpacifist (Question Authority of public schools. Which thought police have your kids?)
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