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VANITY: Levees deliberately opened to kill black people
MSNBC | 9-5-05 | self

Posted on 09/05/2005 7:38:59 AM PDT by staytrue

Former presidents, Bush and Clinton gave a news conference today. Towards the end, as Bush and Clinton were walking off the stage, at about 10:20 am EST, I heard a female reporter shout a last question that went "how do you respond to rumors that the levees were intentionally opened ?"


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To: Archidamus

Thanks.


201 posted on 09/05/2005 9:26:29 AM PDT by jammer
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To: pbrown
Okay. You want to be argumentative. I said she was close, although she doesn't realize it, and provided proof.

I'll let that stand on its on. I'm no supporter of Waters, or any other Democrat for that matter.


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202 posted on 09/05/2005 9:27:01 AM PDT by rdb3 (I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me. --Philippians 4:13)
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To: staytrue

I read on another thread that it wasn't just any newsbabe - they said (and maybe it's only speculation) that it was none other than Greta V.S. from FNC


203 posted on 09/05/2005 9:28:03 AM PDT by Seattle Conservative (God Bless and protect our troops and their CIC)
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To: Azzurri

In 2000, we burned down their churches. Next we open the levees.


204 posted on 09/05/2005 9:28:24 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: grellis

They measured IQ and set the midpoint at 100. Therefore 1/2 have IQ's less than 100 and 1/2 are over by definition.


205 posted on 09/05/2005 9:29:57 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: rdb3

I would love to hear the crack/Foster/Mena connection. Any sources you can point me to? I will even take just a quick explanation. I have been trying to find a way for Fostercide to sink Hillary. I know she's dirty there.


206 posted on 09/05/2005 9:31:16 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: wtc911

You are on the money.

All this crack was invented to kill the black ghetto tripe is not from the Clinton presidential years. It is urban legand from the Reagan years and swirled around the Contra's expat Nicaraguan elite being allowed to bring in cocaine from Contra controlled strips in Costa Rica and Honduras during the Contra War against the Sandinistas after said cocaine was transhipped from Colombia.

Said cocaine was then said to have been sent to LA and cooked up into crack as a plot to kill black youth.

The allegations involved tons and tons of coke and supposedly C-130s loaded with the stuff being unloaded at Homestead and McDill.

A) There is proof that some Contra supporters were in fact smuggling cocaine since some were arrested and sent to prison. They had help from Cuban exiles too who went to jail as well.

B) There were some black gang leaders in LA who were indeed buying cocaine by the multi-kilo from folks associated with Contra supporting dope smugglers.

C) Said Contra supporting dope smugglers had lots of dope and were shipping it everywhere...not exclusively to LA or to any inner city for that matter.

D) There is no evidence about the CIA other than maybe some intelligence officials made it clear they were more intersting in stopping Marxism in Central America than drug interdiction. Folks have to remember that our military was not involved in drug interdiction back then yet....and the 12 miles coastline was still honoured more or less....I know...seems quaint now.

E) To the best of my knowledge crack cocaine was "invented" in NYC by Jamaican gangs looking to expand profits and they learned the practice from Colombians in Jackson Heights, Queens who already knew all about "bazooka" and "champagne".

F) The rest of this is hype with even less proof than other great legends like Carlos Marcello or LBJ killed Kennedy and whatnot.

The Contra supporter-Colombian drug smuggling effort involved huge amounts of cocaine....far more than your average gangbanger would have been able to handle back then. This was the usual nationwide distributing network.

The real conspiracy meat in all this though is that it is "probable" that some US military and intelligence assets did ignore some smuggling activity because they felt they has bigger fish to fry and they though it was policework. Beyond that is Christic Institute myth projection. They wish. I think the Lyndon LaRouche folks back then peddled this myth as well.


The Mena conspiracy part swirls around Clinton as governor of Arkansas and black ops at the Mena airport.

It goes back to Stalin....say it over and over and over and it will stick.

This whole thing was dreamed up to embarass Reagan and the CIA and embraced by the Maxine Waters of the world to as usual shuck any black responsibility from flooding the hood with crack.


207 posted on 09/05/2005 9:31:43 AM PDT by wardaddy (i forgot)
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To: cyborg; Petronski
LOL!!! HEY!

Hey, nothing. Those are your ankles, not mine. And I'm gonna say you were naughty! Acting like you guys are grown. Wassa matta with you?


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208 posted on 09/05/2005 9:31:51 AM PDT by rdb3 (I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me. --Philippians 4:13)
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To: FreedomNeocon
You could even hear the press core around give up a low rumbling 'uuuuugh' at the suggestion, and then they left the press conference, but if you head over to cspan.org they'll have it up to stream in realplayer, you might be able to see who it was.

Excellent information. Perhaps you could do this or post a link and start a new thread.

209 posted on 09/05/2005 9:32:40 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: rdb3
I'm not arguing. You're stating your opinion and I'm stating mine. You don't agree with mine so you say I'm being argumentative.

So, that'll be the end of it.

210 posted on 09/05/2005 9:33:49 AM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: staytrue

Well, the only news I ever see on TV is Fox News. But whenever they put up Greta or Geraldo I change the channel -- pronto. Neither of the two is worth the air they breathe...SSZ


211 posted on 09/05/2005 9:33:51 AM PDT by szweig
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To: pbrown
You're stating your opinion and I'm stating mine.

Hold it. I'm not giving an opinion. I am stating facts. Fact is that she was close to the truth. I've proved it.


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212 posted on 09/05/2005 9:35:49 AM PDT by rdb3 (I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me. --Philippians 4:13)
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To: rdb3
"I posited that she {Waters] was close to the truth about the drug running.."

Isn't your presumption a WHOLE lot different than Waters' hysterical claim that the CIA started the crack epidemic in order to kill blacks in the inner cities??

You're still way off the mark....Unless you can provide a different post of yours in support of Waters' being "closer to the truth."

213 posted on 09/05/2005 9:37:45 AM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: wardaddy
The real conspiracy meat in all this though is that it is "probable" that some US military and intelligence assets did ignore some smuggling activity because they felt they has bigger fish to fry and they though it was policework. Beyond that is Christic Institute myth projection. They wish. I think the Lyndon LaRouche folks back then peddled this myth as well.

Where's the myth? It was not "probable." It's proven. The CIA had nothing to do with it, nor did the Reagan or Bush 41 administrations. But it was not "probable." It's proven. Evidence shows it, and even Bill Clinton inadvertently admitted it.

"Oh, no. That's Lasater's deal."


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214 posted on 09/05/2005 9:40:13 AM PDT by rdb3 (I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me. --Philippians 4:13)
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To: rdb3
OK, found your Cliff's Notes on Mena. So This Lasater was using the CIA "empty return" planes to do his drug running? Would the CIA not have known about it? Also, there is no racial component, I assume, here. Just bringing coke powder into the USA. Not inventing crack and packaging it expressly for the inner cities.

Still want to hear the Foster connection.

215 posted on 09/05/2005 9:42:42 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: rdb3
CLOSE only counts in horseshoes and grenades. She's a bigot and an anit-semite, and blame America firster.

The cia had nothing to do with it, you said so yourself, in your post.

The question is, why do you keep defending her? You continue to come back to..'she was close.'

216 posted on 09/05/2005 9:44:00 AM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: joebuck

Why would the jeez guy get yanked? I love that guy.


217 posted on 09/05/2005 9:45:04 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: F16Fighter
You're still way off the mark. Unless you can provide a different post of yours in support of Waters' being "closer to the truth."

Am I?

I've already provided a different post. Please see #152.


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218 posted on 09/05/2005 9:46:25 AM PDT by rdb3 (I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me. --Philippians 4:13)
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To: staytrue

The reporter's question was faxed over from a Kinkos in TX


219 posted on 09/05/2005 9:48:31 AM PDT by feedback doctor (Liberals will only go to Wal-Mart for looting!)
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To: YaYa123
Is there any truth to the rumor...

Your story is almost correct except for you forgot to include KKKarl Rove as the one who thought of the idea to have the clouds to be seeded in the first place.

The contract for the seeding was, of course given no-bid to Haliburton with the OK of Dick Cheney

Bush was off playing the guitar while the evil BFEE was plotting this disaster to confirm Roberts

< / sarcasm >

220 posted on 09/05/2005 9:50:42 AM PDT by Popman (In politics, ideas are more important than individuals.)
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