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The Story of the Hurricane - After a Period of Self-Suppression, the Horrific Story Spurs the Press
The New York Observer ^ | 9/12/2005 | Sheelah Kolhatkar, Rebecca Dana

Posted on 09/07/2005 10:05:47 PM PDT by anymouse

“People inside were literally dying,” ABC News correspondent Chris Bury told The Observer over the phone.

He was talking about the New Orleans Convention Center, where he spent the day on Friday, Sept. 2, and from which he filed an impassioned report on the evacuees from the sinking city who had sought refuge there and found horror.

“When you’re confronted with American citizens who are doing the right thing and are neglected and abandoned, it makes you mad. It made me mad.”

Mr. Bury and a Nightline crew had ridden out the storm in Biloxi, Miss., and arrived in New Orleans long after the storm had passed—but just as the real terror had begun. His reports of the city’s desperation earlier in the week had been tinged with hope: buses were promised, he told the Nightline anchor desk one night, for evacuees standing on the interstate. The next morning, Mr. Bury was there again. Not enough had come. Some people—many old or infirm—had now been waiting for a full day.

Things were bad in the city, he reported on Thursday. By Friday morning, his resolve seemed to stiffen: Things weren’t just bad, they were horrific. And someone—the President, in fact—was to blame.

“This morning,” Mr. Bury told Nightline viewers as the Labor Day weekend got underway, “it seemed an entire city was reduced to begging the President of the United States for help.”

Reporters like Mr. Bury covering the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina are ripping away the kinds of journalistic niceties that have attended most of the major news events since President George W. Bush took office. The kinds of questions that came up at the dawn of the war in Iraq—is it O.K. to report from the flatbed of an Army truck and follow troops around if it means you can penetrate into the center of the conflict?—seemed perverse in the New Orleans left behind by Hurricane Katrina. Now the question was: Where are the trucks? New Orleans was getting angry. Reporters were getting angry. And that anger was part of the news.

“We certainly tried to keep our personal feelings out of the reporting,” Mr. Bury said. “But if some of that came through, I’m not sure it’s an altogether bad thing.”

Scott Gold, the Houston bureau chief of the Los Angeles Times, has been filing raw, unmediated accounts of what he witnessed there over the past week and a half.

“I really just wrote down what I saw, and what I saw was the saddest and most tragic thing I had ever seen,” Mr. Gold said by phone from downtown New Orleans on Sept. 6.

What did he see?

“A 2-year-old girl slept in a pool of urine,” he wrote in the Times, describing the scene at the Superdome a day before Mr. Bury had arrived. “Crack vials littered a restroom. Blood stained the walls next to vending machines smashed by teenagers.

“The Louisiana Superdome, once a mighty testament to architecture and ingenuity, became the biggest storm shelter in New Orleans the day before Katrina’s arrival Monday. About 16,000 people eventually settled in.

“By Wednesday, it had degenerated into horror.”

Speaking to The Observer later, Mr. Gold said there was no conscious effort to transmit anything but the news.

“I saw no need to dress it up or approach it with any point of view, or to make it sound any more dire or tragic than it was,” he said. “This is what it was.”

On Thursday night, Michael Brown, head of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, confessed to CNN anchor Paula Zahn that he had learned of conditions in the Superdome from reports issued that day by reporters like Mr. Gold.

“For the most part, we generally arrive at this type of story either just after or as the first responders are responding,” said David Verdi, a senior vice president for NBC News. “We’re usually standing shoulder to shoulder with the firemen or the policemen or the Marines, which allows us to record the incident. In this story, however, we were here before there was a first... ...responder, and what made this particularly tough was that after Day 2, when it became very apparent to us that there were people in need, there were no first responders that we could see. The situation was going to deteriorate very quickly.”

The combination of a sudden catastrophe, diminished communications and a lack of any authority on the ground for days to disseminate, filter or spin Katrina’s aftermath has remade the press, and its relationship to the Bush administration.

“Our job is to aggressively pursue the story,” said Mr. Verdi. “It’s a major story on Day 2 and Day 3 when no help shows up to a very easily accessible location like outside the Superdome that all the major networks have been showing to the world. Valid question: Where the hell are ya?”

Across the Gulf Coast, other television reporters had already combusted. On CNN, in an oft-forwarded capsule of television reporters’ growing antagonism, Anderson Cooper reamed Louisiana Senator Mary Landrieu in a Sept. 1 interview.

“For three nights, I’d been listening to politicians on Larry King and the other shows, going back and forth thanking each other,” he said. “That’s the first thing out of their mouths. But that’s not the reality on the ground. There are a lot of angry people down here. I certainly understand where they’re coming from.”

In a satellite-phone interview from New Orleans’ beleaguered Ninth Ward, Mr. Cooper said the disparity between what far-flung officials continued to say and what was happening on the ground became exasperating.

With a 13-man crew sleeping in a pair of R.V.’s, Mr. Cooper and his team wake at dawn and troll through the city looking for stories, burning gas doled out five gallons at a time. In the middle of the phone call, Mr. Cooper stopped to thank a local firefighter he had just interviewed on air.

“How much fuel you got now in your car?” he asked. “That’s it? You’re on your own? You haven’t seen FEMA around this area at all? Unbelievable.”

“I was born and raised in New Orleans; my family has been living in southern Louisiana since 1836,” said Nicholas Lemann, the dean of the Columbia Graduate School of Journalism. He had two reasons to watch the coverage of the hurricane closely: his father and his stepmother, who had been away on vacation from New Orleans. They had decided to return to the city on Saturday so they could get into town before the hurricane shut out air travel.

“On Tuesday and Wednesday, which are the key days in question, what we now know is, if you were fortunate enough to live in the one-third of the city that was never flooded, you could always have gotten in that car and driven out of town in case of trouble,” Mr. Lemann said. “They always had a way out. But that was really, really unclear at the time for my 79-year-old dad, trying to decide about leaving the house and not knowing.”

Their debate about whether to leave on Wednesday night was motivated in part by a report of an armed gang attacking a children’s hospital a couple of blocks away from his father’s home; the report was later corrected, and now Mr. Lemann’s father and stepmother are in Houston.

“In my own case, I was really looking for news you could use. I wanted to know what roads were dry and how do you get out of town, and it was incredibly hard to find that,” Mr. Lemann said. People on the ground—bloggers, “individual self-appointed journalists” publishing on the Web—were responsible for a lot of his information.

But certainly not the government.

“In theory, the government should never be able to act as a filter for information,” said Mr. Lemann. “In practice, of course, it often is. It’s never totally successful—but with something like the war in Iraq, for a whole bunch of reasons, it’s much easier for government to be the filter for the press. But that was not the case here.”

And while the level of emotion in the reporting from the hurricane zone didn’t surprise... ...him, the level of anger did.

“I agree there’s this unfiltered quality to it, but I think that’s more common in disasters than you might think,” Mr. Lemann said. “But the other thing is reporters saying, ‘I’m angry about this.’ My impression is, if you were there, the conditions were so shocking, it led people to emote more than [the] general professional standard in journalism, which is now being widely applauded.”

In fact, the circumstances were so shocking to reporters that according to one staff member, The New York Times e-mailed information about dealing with trauma to reporters in the field, outlining warning signs; employee-assistance counselors also placed calls to reporters.

Sig Christenson, a military reporter for the San Antonio Express-News, has covered virtually every hurricane to hit Florida from 1994 to 1997, and did three tours covering the war in Iraq.

“I mean, there’s nothing to compare with it. Not even the fall of Baghdad,” said Mr. Christenson.

Last week, he was filing a report from outside the New Orleans Convention Center.

“I was dictating a story back to the desk, and I’m in the passenger-side seat of the truck and the truck was running, and there were cops and National Guard all over the place. They had finally showed up,” said Mr. Christenson. “And the door opened … and a guy plops himself into the front seat—a six-foot-tall dude. And I knew I had a problem. And he reached over the steering wheel and said, ‘I need your car.’ And I had to chase him out with a drainpipe and the cops tackled him. It was a real close call. If he’d gotten it into gear, we would have run over someone. Nothing that weird happened to me over three trips to Iraq since the invasion.”

In some cases, the unusual reporting environment allowed journalists in both print and television to exercise muscles that had long grown stiff.

“In some ways, it’s refreshing in a way to not have the official line, where your only choice is just to see it in front of you,” said The New York Times’ Kate Zernike, who drove from Atlanta to Gulfport, Miss., last Tuesday and is now back in New York. “We’ve all gotten used to doing Google searches and so forth. This was the unfiltered experience. It’s just the story in front of you.”

“The press was much, much better than the official government sources you’d want to go to get information, and it showed the power of the press to get into places and get information and disseminate it,” said Mr. Lemann.

Felicity Barringer, The New York Times’ environmental reporter, arrived in New Orleans proper last Wednesday. She worked out of Houma, La., a town about 45 minutes outside of the city, in the offices of the Daily Courier newspaper in Houma, which had opened its doors to out-of-town journalists.

“You’re kind of operating in a world of one-source accounts,” Ms. Barringer said, adding that her editors were crucial in helping her to put the information into context. “So what gets out is the raw information. It’s a no-spin zone.”

Sometimes the reporters were so far out ahead of the story that they found themselves ignoring official statements, instead filing reports of what they were seeing themselves.

“The problem was there was such a disconnect with what we were seeing and what we were hearing from local officials,” said New York Times reporter Shaila Dewan, who returned to Atlanta from covering Katrina in Gulfport and Biloxi, Miss. “You always have tension when you’re a reporter about how much weight to give an official’s viewpoint. In this case, it was exacerbated by the disconnect. You could walk out and count five dead bodies, and the officials were saying there were 60 dead bodies in the county, and you said, ‘No way, I just saw five dead bodies myself.”

Jonathan Darman, a national correspondent for Newsweek, said he was struck by the unmediated experience of reporting from the disaster scene.

“I think there was a certain frustration, and... ...some of the television coverage certainly reflected this, where you were hearing stuff in the national media about a huge relief effort being organized, and all this effort these officials were making, and that didn’t jive at all with what we were seeing on ground,” Mr. Darman said.

Ms. Dewan recalled an instance driving on I-10 and hearing officials broadcast over the radio that I-10 was closed.

“Another big disconnect was that you’d call the Red Cross, and they said they had set up a Web site and an 800 number. But there’s no phones and no power and no place to go. People were going to the coroner for information, and that was only being used to check against people in the morgue.”

Often, reporters found themselves giving out more than information.

“I loaned my sat phone out to people. We found a woman’s baby. Her infant child had been in Children’s Hospital in New Orleans and she lived in Gulfport. I called back to the Atlanta office, and I had the researcher call 20 hospitals until we found the baby. I had to drive back to her house and leave her a note that told where her baby was. She came out when I was writing the note. Everyone in the neighborhood was extremely happy.

“In those situations, you don’t draw an imaginary line. You need to be a reporter, but also a human,” Ms. Dewan said.

Normally a sportswriter for The New York Times based in New York, reporter Jere Longman grew up in Eunice, La., 170 miles west of New Orleans.

“It’s true to say [we] had better communications than the politicians. I just came back from I-10,” Mr. Longman said. “There’s no answers. They’re coming up to reporters. People are looking for anyone that can help. They’re asking, ‘Where am I going? My husband has my medicine—how can I find him? There’s no restroom for my daughter—where do we go?’

“You just try to be honest with people and not give them false hope. For me, it’s the place I grew up. It’s difficult to see these people suffering. What they’re asking for, they’re just asking for food and water and shelter, and when they can’t get the basics, it just hits you in the gut. I’m a sportswriter; I’m usually writing about wins and losses in a baseball game. People are desperate for basics; they’re desperate [for you] just to tell them where their husband is.

“It’s heartbreaking to see people who came out of the storm pretty well …. People are just trying to get place to place. They’re being reduced to the most dire elemental concerns.”

“We came in originally with a FEMA convoy on Monday night,” said Ralph Blumenthal, the second New York Times reporter in New Orleans. ”It took about four or five hours. We got lost a few times … there was a lot of confusion. It was very dark, and they didn’t know the way. There were a lot of downed lines and a lot of water.

“We got into New Orleans, into a temporary base of operations that FEMA set up at 11 p.m. It looked very scary. There were no lights on; from what you could see, there were a couple of fires burning. The convoy had to stop several times. Some of the trucks couldn’t pass under wires safely.”

On Friday, Sept. 2, Fox News correspondent Steve Harrigan woke up at 5 a.m. in the Baton Rouge home of a friend of a friend. With a crew of two, he started toward New Orleans. On the outskirts of the city, one of the two—a man with a wife and kids—chose to stay behind because they kept hearing reports of creeping lawlessness.

Mr. Harrigan, who arrived in Gulfport the previous Sunday, continued with his cameraman through the police checkpoints and into New Orleans. “Thirty or 40 women were chasing our van down the road,” he said, “yelling, ‘Water! Water!’”

They pulled into a hotel parking lot, hooked a videophone up to the van battery and trained the camera on... ...a burning building. Elsewhere in the parking lot, he said, a group of men in a green Lincoln Continental traded gunfire with police.

“I’ve been in a lot of wars,” he said. “I’m a very controlled person. But at one point, I found myself stomping with my right foot on the pavement. I was talking to Bill O’Reilly about how people were sleeping on the highway, and I was going stomp, stomp, stomp with my foot on the pavement, as if that would help me get the message through this little video phone. I was surprised with myself.”

Everywhere, he said, he ran into people who needed help and weren’t getting it.

“There was an old guy and an old woman with one chair between them, standing for three days on the highway, in the heat,” he said. “And you’d go to do a segment and come back, and they’re still standing there. And you’d leave and come back the next day, and they’re still standing there.”

A war correspondent on his way to Baghdad next month, Mr. Harrigan said his personal inability to do anything for these people began to drive him crazy.

“It just burns in your head,” he said.

Mr. Christenson, of the San Antonio Express-News, is now back in San Antonio, feeling tired, anxious.

“You can’t be around these people without just absorbing all of their angst,” he said. “The same questions cross my mind that cross everyone else’s mind. Like, how did it take a week? What the hell was going on with the federal government? Where was FEMA?

“I saw a woman walking up the Huey Long Bridge with a baby, and she wanted us to take her away, and I couldn’t,” Mr. Christenson continued. “There was no one to help her. She was crying, and you could see how tired she was. And all she wanted was some help for her baby. I told her to go and talk to the soldiers on the bridge, and as we were watching these people walking up the bridge, there was a building just behind them on fire, with smoke plumes going up into the sky.

“It was a scene right out of a war zone,” he said. “I think I’m going to be living with this for a long time.”


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: cary; conventioncenter; hurricane; katrina; media; mikebrown; neworleans; notfemasfault
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Long but good read.
1 posted on 09/07/2005 10:05:48 PM PDT by anymouse
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“When you’re confronted with American citizens who are doing the right thing and are neglected and abandoned, it makes you mad. It made me mad.”

In case any liberal news media reporters are lurking on FreeRepublic and are wondering who abandoned those people........... Here are the facts spoon-fed to you.

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NOBODY was supposed to be left trapped in the New Orleans flood bowl death trap as 200,000 low-income residents were as a result of the gross and possibly criminal negligence on the part of the Governor of Louisiana, Kathleen Babineaux Blanco, and the Mayor of New Orleans, Ray Nagin, who failed to follow their own evacuation plan prior to the landfall of Katrina.

New Orleans is in a Storm Surge Zone, below sea level, and surrounded by levies that were only designed to withstand storms lass than a slow-moving Category 3 hurricane. That means that any person staying in New Orleans during a Category 3 or higher hurricane is facing a very high risk of death. Katrina was forecast as a Category 5 and hit as a Category 4.

What Is "Storm Surge" and Why It Matters.

The 2004 Hurricane Pam Exercise was modeled on a catastrophic destruction of New Orleans after only a slow-moving Category 3 hurricane. It was based on the assumption that there had been a complete evacuation of New Orleans. Shelters outside of the New Orleans flood bowl had already been identified:

The interagency shelter group identified the need for about 1,000 shelters for a catastrophic disaster. The shelter team identified 784 shelters and has developed plans for locating the remaining shelters.

Hurricane Pam Exercise Concludes.(2004 New Orleans Disaster Prediction)

President Bush requested that Governor Blanco allow the Federal takeover of the evacuation of New Orleans, and Governor Blanco, for political reasons, refused:

Behind the scenes, a power struggle emerged, as federal officials tried to wrest authority from Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Babineaux Blanco (D). Shortly before midnight Friday, the Bush administration sent her a proposed legal memorandum asking her to request a federal takeover of the evacuation of New Orleans, a source within the state's emergency operations center said Saturday..........The administration sought unified control over all local police and state National Guard units reporting to the governor. Louisiana officials rejected the request after talks throughout the night, concerned that such a move would be comparable to a federal declaration of martial law. Some officials in the state suspected a political motive behind the request. "Quite frankly, if they had been able to pull off taking it away from the locals, they then could have blamed everything on the locals", said the source, who does not have the authority to speak publicly.

The Southeast Louisiana Evacuation plan supplement, revised in 2000, page 13, read paragraph 5, stated:

5. The primary means of hurricane evacuation will be personal vehicles. School and municipal buses, government-owned vehicles and vehicles provided by volunteer agencies may be used to provide transportation for individuals who lack transportation and require assistance in evacuating.

In spite of that, over four hundred New Orleans publicly owned buses, as counted by members of FreeRepublic on post-Katrina satellite images, remained parked in neat rows and 200,000 low-income New Orleans residents were left trapped in the ¡§New Orleans flood bowl¡¨ (as scientists call it) in the face of the incoming storm surge.

Those 400+ buses, at 70 passengers per bus, could have taken 28,000 of those low-income citizens per trip out of New Orleans on the inbound lanes that the Governor and Mayor inexplicably left unused during the evacuation.

As a result, 200,000 of the poorest residents of New Orleans were left trapped din a disaster waiting to happen with no where to go but the Superdome.

While 800,000 of New Orleans' residents with private transportation were being saved, 200,000 of New Orleans', low-income residents were left abandoned by the Governor and the Mayor in the New Orleans flood bowl to face a Category 4 Hurricane Storm Surge.

If the levies had failed catastrophically instead of at a few certain point as they did, the death toll would have reached Hiroshima proportions.

2 posted on 09/07/2005 10:12:13 PM PDT by Polybius
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A GOOD read????

More leftist Bush-bashing is a good read?

What have you been smoking???


3 posted on 09/07/2005 10:13:56 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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“When you’re confronted with American citizens who are doing the right thing and are neglected and abandoned, it makes you mad. It made me mad.”

Is shooting at your rescuers 'doing the right thing'?
Is repelling a force of 80 police coming with rescue supplies the right thing?
Is parking 145 school buses 1.2 miles from the Convention Center and not using them but letting them be destroyed by the water, doing the right thing?
Is the governor forbidding the Red Cross to deliver food and aid to the Convention Center and the Superdome doing the right thing?
But it's all Bush's fault, right?


4 posted on 09/07/2005 10:15:31 PM PDT by CondorFlight
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Yeah, it's all Bus's fault.


5 posted on 09/07/2005 10:17:20 PM PDT by battlegearboat
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To: Polybius
If the levies had failed catastrophically instead of at a few certain point as they did, the death toll would have reached Hiroshima proportions.

If the storm had been Cat 5 and hit NO directly, the storm surge would have overtopped the levees.

6 posted on 09/07/2005 10:19:09 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (France is an example of retrograde chordate evolution.)
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To: Polybius

Good job Polybius. We need to put the facts together and send them out to every radio station and news outlet, and spread it over the internet to counter the BS the communist media is spreading.


7 posted on 09/07/2005 10:30:57 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: battlegearboat

SUVs can drive themselves, why can't Busses?


8 posted on 09/07/2005 10:32:44 PM PDT by dfwgator
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Interesting to see how the media reports on it's own reporting operations.

Of course the lamestream media is going to bash President Bush - and the Sun will continue to rise in the East. That doesn't mean you can't step over the cow patties and spot the flowers growing among the usual liberal clap-trap.
9 posted on 09/07/2005 10:33:23 PM PDT by anymouse
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Sorry, but I am tired of swimming through a cesspool of liberal diarrhea-of-the-mouth(or pen) to find that all-too-rare flower.


10 posted on 09/07/2005 10:38:01 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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"With a 13-man crew sleeping in a pair of R.V.’s, Mr. Cooper and his team wake at dawn and troll through the city looking for stories,

instead of helping people.

That says it all.

11 posted on 09/07/2005 10:38:38 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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Don't you know that reproters are only supposed to "tell" the stories; not be part of them themselves?

Except when they can fabricate stories to bash Bush, of course.


12 posted on 09/07/2005 10:41:48 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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Why didn't the groups try walking to shelters outside of NO? Why sit there and wait for your local government to kill you?


13 posted on 09/07/2005 10:42:23 PM PDT by Bostton1 (Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than my guns have!)
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My sentiments exactly.

I couldn't stand to read it. I skimmed.

Hate Bush Inc. ad absurd-um.

Reporters are outraged at the evil around them ..... "it must be Bush's fault". Effing morons. They care SO much. They want to help the poor poor suffering people .... so do they pin the blame where it belongs? Do they do the right thing to obtain justice for the aggrieved evacuees? Noooooooooo. They use the evacuees pain and suffering for their own political ends.

Political looters.
14 posted on 09/07/2005 10:42:59 PM PDT by mercy (never again a patsy for Bill Gates - spyware and viri free for over TWO YEARS now)
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“We came in originally with a FEMA convoy on Monday night,” said Ralph Blumenthal, the second New York Times reporter in New Orleans. ”It took about four or five hours. We got lost a few times … there was a lot of confusion. It was very dark, and they didn’t know the way. There were a lot of downed lines and a lot of water.

“We got into New Orleans, into a temporary base of operations that FEMA set up at 11 p.m. It looked very scary. There were no lights on; from what you could see, there were a couple of fires burning. The convoy had to stop several times. Some of the trucks couldn’t pass under wires safely.”


That can't possibly be true. We all know FEMA was nowhere near New Orleans any time after the hurricane.
15 posted on 09/07/2005 10:43:15 PM PDT by conservative in nyc
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There were 279 school buses in that lot.
The city buses in another pic (the white ones) were 175, and there are a total of 2000 in NO. which could have been utilized in the days before Katrina hit land.

The media is trying extremely hard to ignore the facts in their blame game, it's up to us to expose them to as many people as we can. We CANNOT let the media get away with this fraud.


16 posted on 09/07/2005 10:45:07 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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“'A 2-year-old girl slept in a pool of urine,'he wrote in the Times, describing the scene at the Superdome a day before Mr. Bury had arrived. 'Crack vials littered a restroom. Blood stained the walls next to vending machines smashed by teenagers.'"

Can't see the federal government being blamed for this.

Why did this 2 yr. old child's parents let her sleep in urine??

And drugs and teenagers out of control? Who's to blame -- FEMA?

Not for these actions.


17 posted on 09/07/2005 10:46:18 PM PDT by Cedar
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Political whores.


18 posted on 09/07/2005 10:46:31 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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We have a winner. Even the media is tired of sensational reporters using hurricane victims as props.


19 posted on 09/07/2005 10:46:52 PM PDT by anymouse
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"I saw a woman walking up the Huey Long Bridge with a baby, and she wanted us to take her away, and I couldn't," Mr. Christenson continued. "There was no one to help her. She was crying, and you could see how tired she was. And all she wanted was some help for her baby..."

Yes YOU, Mr. Christienson could have helped that poor woman. You had a truck and YOU could have taken her to safety. For all of your sanctimonious BS you are no better than any other person or organization that you condemn for not being there to help. Except for one big difference, you were there and you did nothing. That makes you worse than them and it also makes you a hypocrite.

If anything bad happened to that poor woman or her child there is only you to blame.

20 posted on 09/07/2005 10:46:53 PM PDT by Between the Lines (Be careful how you live your life, it may be the only gospel anyone reads.)
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