Subtle are Einstein's thoughts

Physics World via PhysicsWeb ^ | September 2005 | Alan H Batten

[Zechariah11]

This has about as much value as what Kwame West thinks about Bush.

[Ichneumon]

[Then why does the majority of "the world" remain unpersuaded by this "proof"? Something appears to be wrong with your presumptions.]

Your thoughts were foresaw by God and He inspired Paul to clear things up for us.

Rationalizations and excuses about why people disagree with you... How handy, especially when it avoids having to think about the real reasons.

There are far more reasons why billions of people find your "proof" unconvincing, beyond dismissive labeling such as "lies", "corruption", or "debasement". Claiming otherwise is a classic exampleo of the "Straw man fallacy".

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy."
-- Hamlet, Act 1 Scene 5, by William Shakespeare

[FireTrack]

"What part of your little plug did I miss?

That the plug was written by: --H. O'Billovich

A review of the book on Amazon.com. :-)

[Quark2005]

I've heard of the speculation of so-called "mirror-matter" (i.e. parity-inverted matter). So far, its existence hasn't been experimentally confirmed - and be wary - the subject seems to be a target for some crackpots.

The possibility of mirror-matter is something taken seriously by some physicists, and some of what is printed on the site in your link looks valid; I have to say though, that there's some stuff in your link that looks fishy, though (i.e. the whole deal about the Tunguska explosion - just as easily explainable by an ordinary comet impact). Always remember, the web is an incredibly vast repository of information with zero quality control; always check the sources of info before taking it too seriously.

In any case, mirror matter is an interesting concept - it may well be real (though once again, I'm not an expert on this).

[FireTrack]

VERY well said!

"My father woke me late one October night in 1957, bundled me up and brought me out to our front porch."

Same thing happened to me except it was a meteor that lit up the whole sky in a yellow glow and cast shadows inside our house.

:-)

[Ichneumon]

Do you think Einstein believed that God exists or he just referred to him as another way to describe nature?

A little of both, I think. While Einstein clearly did not believe in the idea of a "personified" God -- one that was conscious or had "plans" or anything like that -- it also doesn't seem entirely accurate to say that he used "God" as a label for "just nature".

I get the impression that he envisioned some sort of thing underlying nature as we know it, or beyond it in some way, which was not a "being" in any sense of thw word, but which imbued nature as we know it with order and complexity. That which provided our universe with its "spark of magic", if you will, which could be found if we pulled away the curtain of our own universe and looked behind it. Even if it was just a "metauniverse" of a kind, operating by its own supranatural (as opposed to "supernatural") laws which spun off our own, Einstein would consider it the "God" of our universe, the "prime mover", the source which was even more awe-inspiring than our already awe-inspiring "bubble" of a universe within the larger.

[Aracelis]

Put down the books and look around you, look outside, then you'll begin to understand God.

As always, your thoughts are succinct. We will not "discover" God simply by reading what others have written...we must experience Him.

[Aracelis]

Same thing happened to me except it was a meteor that lit up the whole sky in a yellow glow and cast shadows inside our house.

Because we have retained the wonder and awe of our unique experiences, we are both that much closer to God.

[FireTrack]

In any case, mirror matter is an interesting concept

Yes it is, and I first heard about it approximately 2 years ago. The gentleman who's site I included seem to be one with the most knowledge and I believe he has articles in a few journals. I know however that there are many crackpot sites and theories floating about on the Internet.

What intrigues me most is that if true, a mirror world might exist with all the implications that would mean.

[bondserv]

Rationalizations and excuses about why people disagree with you... How handy, especially when it avoids having to think about the real reasons.

Where have you been?

The Intelligent Design movement perfectly coincides with this passage of Scripture.

Rom 1:20 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse,

[FireTrack]

"we are both that much closer to God"

Thanks, I certainly feel a lot closer to God now after years of reading, and studying not only religious writings but also of the wonders of his creation. I never was able to make sense of the bible thumping preaching during my childhood.

I asked my Grandmother once, "Why would God need a rib from Adam to make Eve"? She almost had a heart attack! :-)

[PatrickHenry]

I get the impression that he envisioned some sort of thing underlying nature as we know it, or beyond it in some way, which was not a "being" in any sense of the word, but which imbued nature as we know it with order and complexity.

Deism seems to fit. "the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God," to use Jefferson's phrase. [His caps.]

[RightWhale]

Can you imagine submitting your perpetual motion machine model to that patent clerk?

[FireTrack]

I should have stated that it was a review of the book in my post. ;-)

[Aracelis]

I asked my Grandmother once, "Why would God need a rib from Adam to make Eve"? She almost had a heart attack!

I can certainly appreciate her reaction, for my Dad had a similar reaction upon learning that I believe in theistic evolution. It has taken years, but we've reached a resolution in that belief or disbelief in a literal six days of Creation is not a point of Salvation.

[Hostage]

Perhaps farther down in the thread someone has already posted that Isaac Newton was a very devout Christian.

I have read that faith was so important to Newton that it guided his standards for seeking the truth in natural philosophy and to establishing practical technique and fact for civilization.

Many deep philosophers and scientists are guided by a humble approach to understanding the universe in scientific terms, in bowing their head in reverence that their investigations lead along a pathway to truth, even a glimpse of truth that shadows that which no one can ever know completely.

I am convinced God is of a higher dimension that we simply cannot sense within our own dimensional confines. For if could prove the existence of God, if we could gather 'physical' evidence of God's existence, then we would be aware of the hyperdimension of God's existence, and with that awareness we could elevate ourselves to be equal to God, which is impossible.

[ShadowDancer]

Right now I'm reading Twain's Letters from the Earth. I'm pretty sure that would warrant me execution on the Religious Forum. Hell, it's still early, I may just post my thoughts there.

[Doctor Stochastic]

So, it's only for the lack of the Patriot Act, that Einsten remained in America.

[furball4paws]

Well. now I guess we know how you came to be.

[CarolinaGuitarman]

"History asserts."

*History* asserts no such thing. Some people assert it, based on a 2,000 year old book. They believe it on faith, not based on historical evidence, as there is none. We barely know if Jesus even existed. Just as many people assert that Mohamed is the last Prophet of Allah; they too have a book that makes that claim. They also have the same amount of evidence = none.

If you wish to believe in the Resurrection, that is your right. Don't pretend you have anything but faith to back you up.

Your assertions don't equal evidence.