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Subtle are Einstein's thoughts
Physics World via PhysicsWeb ^ | September 2005 | Alan H Batten

Posted on 09/10/2005 4:56:18 AM PDT by PatrickHenry

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Seems like a good thread for the weekend.
1 posted on 09/10/2005 4:56:18 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
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2 posted on 09/10/2005 4:57:04 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Discoveries attributable to the scientific method -- 100%; to creation science -- zero.)
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Shhhh!


3 posted on 09/10/2005 5:19:16 AM PDT by bkepley
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To: PatrickHenry

Well. Now that he's left this mortal coil, he probably has a fair idea of what the truth is.


4 posted on 09/10/2005 5:30:57 AM PDT by siunevada
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To: PatrickHenry

"In their struggle for the ethical good, teachers of religion must have the stature to give up the doctrine of a personal God, that is, give up that source of fear and hope which in the past placed such vast power in the hands of priests"

Albert Einstein, "Science and Religion", Out of my Later Years, 1950


5 posted on 09/10/2005 5:32:23 AM PDT by djf (Government wants the same things I do - MY guns, MY property, MY freedoms!)
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To: PatrickHenry

I am not worried what Einstein thought about God. The man was not even good with personal relationships, so his views on supernatural ones are somewhat suspect.


6 posted on 09/10/2005 6:40:17 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: PatrickHenry
Probably a good idea. You'd think Einstein was some kind of snake-handler the way his quotes get bandied about by the miracle-peddlers.
7 posted on 09/10/2005 7:08:11 AM PDT by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: PatrickHenry

Another one, from his late years "I want to learn to think like God thinks"


8 posted on 09/10/2005 7:14:19 AM PDT by Vision (When Hillary Says She's Going To Put The Military On Our Borders...She Becomes Our Next President)
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To: PatrickHenry

Thanks for the ping!


9 posted on 09/10/2005 7:20:00 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: siunevada
Well. Now that he's left this mortal coil, he probably has a fair idea of what the truth is.

If a way is ever found to recreate individual consciousness after death and destruction of the body then we all will.

10 posted on 09/10/2005 7:50:06 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Federal creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it)
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To: djf; Physicist
"In their struggle for the ethical good, teachers of religion must have the stature to give up the doctrine of a personal God, that is, give up that source of fear and hope which in the past placed such vast power in the hands of priests"

I think what Einstein meant is that God is what He is, not what we want Him to be, which is very similar to what Physicist says sometimes.

11 posted on 09/10/2005 7:57:09 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Federal creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it)
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The man was not even good with personal relationships

He was a babe magnet. Goedel, though, wouldn't be in the same room as a germ.

12 posted on 09/10/2005 7:58:37 AM PDT by RightWhale (We in heep dip trubble)
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To: PatrickHenry
My favorite: "My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble mind." - Albert Einstein

Others:

http://rescomp.stanford.edu/~cheshire/EinsteinQuotes.html

13 posted on 09/10/2005 8:15:08 AM PDT by FireTrack
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"The man was not even good with personal relationships"

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein

14 posted on 09/10/2005 8:22:56 AM PDT by FireTrack
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To: PatrickHenry

Einstein was a theologian too?


15 posted on 09/10/2005 8:25:57 AM PDT by Raycpa
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"Stop telling God what to do!" When Niels Bohr said these words to Albert Einstein.

But Albert was smarter than God. /sarcasm

Brilliant physicist, amateurish theologian.

16 posted on 09/10/2005 8:29:37 AM PDT by JCEccles
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Brilliant physicist, amateurish theologian.

He was even worse in economics. The guy was a socialist. Anyway, everyone has thoughts on theology. It's always interesting to see what a really intelligent person has to say -- for whatever it may be worth. We get more than enough strident theological proclamations by people who have no clue about anything.

17 posted on 09/10/2005 8:38:22 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Discoveries attributable to the scientific method -- 100%; to creation science -- zero.)
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To: Moonman62
If a way is ever found to recreate individual consciousness after death and destruction of the body then we all will.

I don't think I would. The entire idea of living forever makes me feel very tired.

18 posted on 09/10/2005 8:41:54 AM PDT by CobaltBlue (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: PatrickHenry

To me, Einstein's theology wasn't amateurish at all. Painfully honest.

God is unknowable. That's the honest truth.

You won't understand God by reading a book. That's the honest truth.

Put down the books and look around you, look outside, then you'll begin to understand God.

Einstein was able to prove things about physics that persuaded him that the universe moves according to predictable and knowable forces. That told him a lot about God, and it tells us all a lot about God.


19 posted on 09/10/2005 8:46:34 AM PDT by CobaltBlue (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: PatrickHenry
"The guy was a socialist."

From 1933 until 1955, the Federal Bureau of Investigation compiled a 2,000-page file on Albert Einstein, hoping to "destroy" his immense stature by linking him to Soviet espionage activities. At one point, not long before the scientist's death, a serious attempt was made to have him deported. This alarming campaign--responsible in large part for Einstein's exclusion from the Manhattan Project--is the subject of Fred Jerome's The Einstein File. Einstein's disloyalty, in the FBI's view, was clearly evidenced by his adamant political stances. He was a socialist, a pacifist (though he advocated war with Germany), and an outspoken foe of McCarthyism, nuclear war, and racism. Jerome's skillful narrative weaves the file's hateful (and often ludicrously inaccurate) entries with American political history, creating an invaluable context for both Einstein's views and the FBI's actions. Further, Jerome points to the more recent "sanitizing" of Einstein, from angry activist to "genial, absent-minded professor." This is a fascinating, compelling tale, one that reads like the strangest of fictions. --H. O'Billovich

Here is the link to the book:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0312288565/ref=pm_dp_ln_b_6/002-7865334-7653614?v=glance&s=books&vi=reviews

20 posted on 09/10/2005 8:50:19 AM PDT by FireTrack
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