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Fleming senior wears racist T-shirt to school
Jacksonville.com ^ | 9.15.05 | BRAD SCHMIDT

Posted on 09/15/2005 10:46:04 AM PDT by conserv13

"What's up with your shirt?"

Those are the words a former senior at Fleming Island High School remembers hearing as he walked from his fifth-period algebra class toward the gym. The 18-year-old, who is not being identified due to his family's concerns of safety, had just taken off his Dixie Outfitter T-shirt, exposing a highly offensive shirt.

"What about it?" replied the 18-year-old, skinny and white.

"Well, you know it's racial," said a black student, now in a group confronting the 18-year-old.

"Yeah. So?"

The undershirt the white student wore had a confederate flag on the front with the words "Keep it flying." On the back, a cartoon depicted a group of hooded Klansmen standing outside a church, waving to two others who had just pulled away in a car reading "Just married."

Two black men in nooses were being dragged behind.

Upset by the shirt, a 17-year-old black student hit the white student in the head. A crowd of about 100 students gathered to watch the Aug. 29 fight before authorities intervened.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: dangerseeker; darwin; dixie; dixielost; florida; hateflag; idiot; moron; race; rebellion; slavery; slaves; treason; tshirt
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To: FreedomCalls
I can already smell these idiots through the screen. You probably can't get closer than 10ft without dying from the stink.
141 posted on 09/15/2005 11:21:36 AM PDT by varyouga (Reformed Kerry voter (I know, I'm a frickin' idiot))
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To: conserv13
The undershirt the white student wore had a confederate flag on the front with the words "Keep it flying." On the back, a cartoon depicted a group of hooded Klansmen standing outside a church, waving to two others who had just pulled away in a car reading "Just married."

Two black men in nooses were being dragged behind.

Upset by the shirt, a 17-year-old black student hit the white student in the head. A crowd of about 100 students gathered to watch the Aug. 29 fight before authorities intervened.

"You keep knocking on the devil's door, eventually somebody's gonna answer you...."

142 posted on 09/15/2005 11:22:06 AM PDT by RichInOC ("The coffee is strong at Cafe du Monde, the doughnuts are too hot to touch..." Save the Big Greasy!)
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To: conserv13
Bears repeating:

"You can choose your actions (i.e. wearing offensive teeshirt in public), but you can't choose the consequences (i.e. get beat in the head)."

143 posted on 09/15/2005 11:22:11 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (Sometimes I just can't see the forest for all the gumps.)
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To: lady lawyer
I have to wonder out loud what would happen to a black kid who made a racial slur against whites? You can't tell me that never happens. Would he be punished?

This is a true incident. My friends son was approached at school by a black youngster. The black youngster touched his face and said "you look like a strawberry". My friends son the said "Well you look like a chocolate bar". His remark was overheard.

These were grade school students. My friend's son was suspended, but the black youngster was not. I see no reason for any action on the part of an adult to this situation, but that is not the way the multicultural school staff saw it.

144 posted on 09/15/2005 11:23:11 AM PDT by w1andsodidwe (Jimmy Carter allowed radical Islam to get a foothold in Iran.)
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To: thoughtomator

Incitement to riot trumps free speech.


145 posted on 09/15/2005 11:23:27 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: wideawake
A funny thing somewhat like that happened to me too. Last month while I was wearing a tight pair of black jeans, handcuffs, a wallet chain, mirror sunglasses and a tight black t-shirt. I was about to go on a date with a yuppie girl that liked metrosexuals (I wanted to get laid real badly that night). That day, an ethnically-charged assault was attempted on me by a fat, out of shape white kid. He got out of his car and started saying "Pound the "African American Homosexual" (Although his vernacular was different) and advanced towards me.

Unlucky for him, I've been practicing eastern martial arts for a year and a half, and before, I used to box for half a year. You add 2+2 together.

146 posted on 09/15/2005 11:23:34 AM PDT by TypeZoNegative (Future Minnesota Refugee)
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To: conserv13
That was a stupid t-shirt, and the kids parents should get a good tongue lashing for allowing him to even have such a thing.

But hitting the white kid in the head was worse than wearing a t-shirt. I'm sure the PC police wouldn't agree, but who cares.

147 posted on 09/15/2005 11:24:40 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: lady lawyer

The kid who smacked this moron should be given a medal.


148 posted on 09/15/2005 11:25:10 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: thoughtomator
Racist or not, we either have free speech or we don't.

We have the right to free speech. We don't have the right to consequence free speech. I'd say that shirt got the reaction it sought (and deserved).

149 posted on 09/15/2005 11:26:09 AM PDT by Antonello
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To: jpeg82

Dude that is hillarius. I'm still giggling

http://www.alldumb.com/item/13968


150 posted on 09/15/2005 11:26:09 AM PDT by Ignatius J Reilly
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To: lady lawyer

Whites are offended every day. Just turn on the TV and you'll see offensive speech. I cringe every time I hear "white people have no rhythm". How about the classic movie "white men can't jump"? White men are the target of choice for every racist out there. Al Sharpton said that people weren't helped in New Orleans because of their color, which infered that all whites responding to the disaster are racists. THAT is offensive. THAT is personal. Should Al Sharpton be punched and "expect" it?

The same people out there crying about free speech won't rear their heads over this one. The ACLU was behind the kid with the "bush is a terrorist" shirt before he left the school grounds- where are they now?

This story illustrates how we have been trained to respond differently to similar situations. I feel sorry for the white kid and the black kid. They both showed stupidity and they both reinforced their own beliefs in the other.


151 posted on 09/15/2005 11:26:32 AM PDT by DilJective (Property ownership is a right. Taxing us out of our homes is criminal.)
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To: gdani
Wat he was doing was deliberately trying to provoke a reaction.

Are you sure? I think it's best to stay out of people's heads, for once. Everyone here pays lip-service to free speech, but when it comes to such a case, people somehow understand that a person is assaulted because of some stupid T-Shirt. Surely, we would not want a society in which everyone who is "offended" attacks someone else?
152 posted on 09/15/2005 11:26:55 AM PDT by DoraC (Ceterum censeo Palaestinam esse delendam!)
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To: TypeZoNegative

egads. The testosterone in here is thick enough to cut with a knife.


153 posted on 09/15/2005 11:27:20 AM PDT by Hi Heels (Guns kill and cause crime? Dang, mine must be malfunctioning....)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com

"Does this mean I get to beat up the next punk I see wearing a Che Guevera shirt?"

The response needs to be proportional to the provocation. In Che's case, I think laughing at the guy would be sufficient. Maybe a wedgie.


154 posted on 09/15/2005 11:27:33 AM PDT by Airborne1986 (Well, you can do what you want to us. But we're not going to sit here while you badmouth the U.S.A.)
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To: DilJective; MineralMan
"Either you want all violence justified, or none."

Only an idiot constantly pokes a sleeping bear. The white guy provoked and got a response by his apparel - that wasn't good enough. He made open denigrating remarks anyone should have taken as offensive. He alone bears the responsibility for his asinine behavior of treating another person with such bigotted hatred.

155 posted on 09/15/2005 11:28:37 AM PDT by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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To: conserv13

I'm a bit offended that he'd wear a shirt implying that the confederate flag is associated with the KKK.


156 posted on 09/15/2005 11:28:42 AM PDT by meyer (The DNC prefers advancing the party at the expense of human lives.)
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To: dogfighter

"The kid with the shirt is obviously a few fries short of a happy meal."

LMAO!


157 posted on 09/15/2005 11:28:45 AM PDT by Airborne1986 (Well, you can do what you want to us. But we're not going to sit here while you badmouth the U.S.A.)
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To: jw777

Kanye West didn't wear a t-shirt advocating the lynching of other people. He just shot off his stupid mouth about his own opinion of someone else.


158 posted on 09/15/2005 11:29:01 AM PDT by hispanarepublicana (No amnesty needed...My ancestors proudly served. [remodel of an old '70s bumper sticker])
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To: antiRepublicrat
Everybody has a right to freedom of speech/expression. OTOH, everybody has a responsibility to take the consequences of it. In this case, he got his consequences.

So you agree the guy who threw the punch should take the consequences of his actions and plead guilty to assault and proudly serve time in jail as a felon?

159 posted on 09/15/2005 11:29:09 AM PDT by Mark was here (How can they be called "Homeless" if their home is a field?.)
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To: jude24

So, Jude, you won't mind the next liberal punching you for disparaging Hillary?


160 posted on 09/15/2005 11:29:14 AM PDT by DilJective (Property ownership is a right. Taxing us out of our homes is criminal.)
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