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Getting into the world of firearms
Townhall.com ^ | September 27, 2005 | Mike S. Adams

Posted on 09/27/2005 5:35:15 AM PDT by beaureguard

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To: saganite
Since you own quite a few .45's I wonder what you think of the relatively new GAP round?

I don't know anything about it, other than what I've read. It sounds pretty nice, with the possibility of building a pistol with a more compact grip for people with smaller hands.

Mark

41 posted on 09/27/2005 7:21:29 AM PDT by MarkL (I didn't get to where I am today by worrying about what I'd feel like tomorrow!)
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To: yarddog
I noticed you have the little Firestar in .40 S&W. I have one and like it. It is very compact but when loaded it literally feels like a chunck of lead. Nothing wrong with it's performance.

I bought it years ago, the first time the CCW law was floated here in MO. It is tiny, compared to anything else I owned. It's about the size of a Colt Mustang .380! But it's all steel, and heavy! And that's a good thing, too. The recoil on it is rather brutal, and it is not a particularly fun gun to shoot. My only regret is that I had to run out and buy it as soon as I read about it... Shortly thereafter, Star came out with a .45 version of the Firestar... Nothing against the .40, but I didn't (and still don't) have reloading dies for it. As it is, I've got too many tool-heads for my Dillon 550, and hardly enough room for them! Besides, I don't shoot the Firestar all that often. It is a nice gun, but it's very much a "working gun."

Mark

42 posted on 09/27/2005 7:26:35 AM PDT by MarkL (I didn't get to where I am today by worrying about what I'd feel like tomorrow!)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Life is good when you own more than ten firearms.

If you know the exact number you have, you don't have enough.

I had to revise my list 3 times before I gave up and went downstairs to open up the gunsafe and take a head count! lol

Mark

43 posted on 09/27/2005 7:29:18 AM PDT by MarkL (I didn't get to where I am today by worrying about what I'd feel like tomorrow!)
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To: satchmodog9
Life is good when you own more than ten firearms.

Ten?

You set your standards awfully low.

44 posted on 09/27/2005 7:30:35 AM PDT by P8riot (Growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional.)
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To: Fudd
And a consistent trigger pull - no needing to pull harder on the first round out the pipe.

No small consideration when every shot is suppose to count.

45 posted on 09/27/2005 7:33:23 AM PDT by papertyger
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To: Citizen Tom Paine
I would say, in addition, get a good hunting knife with a 6" blade... Keep one or two good flashlights around where you can find them in the dark.

Oh, that's a whole 'nother thread.


46 posted on 09/27/2005 7:33:52 AM PDT by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: beaureguard

Personnally my SHTF rifle is a Sprinfield M1A. The .308 NATO round is my favorite in a long gun.


47 posted on 09/27/2005 7:34:24 AM PDT by P8riot (Growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional.)
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To: xsrdx; AnAmericanMother
fortunately we have a gunsmith that we trust

Kind of like a fountain of youth, or gold at the end of the rainbow. Or Bigfoot.

I've heard of them, but never seen one. You are indeed fortunate!

I've been very lucky too. Actually, I've found a number of excellent gunsmiths that I recommend highly... There's Bill Laughridge (sp?) up in Nebraska, who owns Cylinder and Slide. I have it on good authority that he's one of the very best (if not THE best) at working on Colt Pythons and Browning High Powers. While they're best known for those, believe me, they do excellent work on anything you can send them. He did some terrific work for me some years ago, with an action job on a competition .38 revolver, as well as an action job (and spring kit) in my Taurus PT-99. And then there's Leonard Beatty (I hope I got that right... It's been years). He was in North Carolina, and he did an amazing job on a 1911 "Race Gun" for me. I would estimate that I've put over 60,000 rounds through it, and it's NEVER malfunctioned, and the trigger pull, while extremely light (just a hair over 25 oz), is perfectly safe.

I've also got two friends who are both master tool and die makers, and they got into gunsmithing as a hobby, and have become excellent gunsmiths. One even built his own custom chambered revolver, sort of based on the .44 Automag, using full moon clips, and the cut down cases of a .308. I don't think that they'd want me mentioning their names.

And I was extremely luck to have been introduced to Ron Power, one of the finest gunsmiths around today. Not only is he a master craftsman, but he happens to be an extremely nice gentleman, and he's a lot of fun to be around. He had already retired to the Ozarks, but a friend introduced us, and my friends convinced Ron to do a bit of work on one of my revolvers.

Mark

48 posted on 09/27/2005 7:40:18 AM PDT by MarkL (I didn't get to where I am today by worrying about what I'd feel like tomorrow!)
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To: AnAmericanMother
(it still kicks like a mule though, he couldn't do anything about that. ;-) )

Talk to your gunsmith about one of those mercury filled recoil surpressors. It fits in the stock. If you don't mind the extra weight, and it doesn't upset the balance, you'll be amazed at what it does to the recoil.

Mark

49 posted on 09/27/2005 7:43:19 AM PDT by MarkL (I didn't get to where I am today by worrying about what I'd feel like tomorrow!)
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To: MarkL
You KNOW things are getting bad when you have to invest in a second gun safe . . . and that's just for the ones that aren't junk guns for the pickup, house guns, or carry guns . . . < ouch! >

One of the judges in that Fifth Circuit case on the 2nd Amendment remarked during oral argument that he and one of the other judges on the panel "had between them more firearms than most Latin American countries." We're working on it . . .

50 posted on 09/27/2005 7:43:39 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: AnAmericanMother
Ruger 10/22 in 22LR is a better choice in a .22 rifle.

That is a great little rifle.A good friend of mine who is a gun junkie has several and every time we get together we shoot several hundred rounds through them.

My 22 is an old Remington FieldMaster 572 pump.It will drive tacks at 25yrds with open sights.

51 posted on 09/27/2005 7:45:16 AM PDT by painter (We celebrate liberty which comes from God not from government.)
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To: MarkL
I won't shoot it (it's now way too long in the stock for me - fit me fine before, my grandpapa was about 5'5.) I have a Remington 11-48 in 20 ga. that I adore. It was my mama's dove gun, I shoot skeet with it and can happily bust clays all day long in a T-shirt and not feel a thing. It's also a great natural pointer for me.

My husband is negotiating with the father of one of my daughter's friends for a Rem 870 in 12 ga. for me. Gotta get a pump because the poppers and primers we use in hunting retriever tests won't cycle the action on a semi auto.

My daddy occasionally lets me shoot his 16 ga. Parker if I'm really good, but I think he wants to be buried with it < sniff >

52 posted on 09/27/2005 7:46:44 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: painter
My Daddy was the most extraordinary shot with a .22 I have ever seen.

He scored expert in the army with the Garand which is not surprising. I remember when we were really little, he would take his Remington Scoremaster model 513 and literally drive a series of nails into boards with it.

He would take large acorns or hickory nuts, throw them in the air and plug them with the .22. He seldom missed. Oddly enough, he had to throw them himself. If someone else threw them he was likely to miss. My Brother has that rifle now and it is just as sweet a shooter as ever.

53 posted on 09/27/2005 7:52:39 AM PDT by yarddog
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To: MarkL; AnAmericanMother
Actually, I've found a number of excellent gunsmiths that I recommend highly...

Oh, they're out there, but I'm talking about the one you can get to in 30 minutes.

I have no trouble finding competent gunsmiths, I have trouble finding competent gunsmiths when I need help right now - the upshot is I've learned enough gunsmithing to be dangerous.

54 posted on 09/27/2005 7:54:25 AM PDT by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: AnAmericanMother
Yes, a good gunsmith is like a good mechanic. Rare and they should be treated with due respect.

There aren't any really good ones right around here. When we lived in Western Kansas, had a great one, tho I can't even remember his name now.

55 posted on 09/27/2005 7:55:22 AM PDT by yarddog
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To: papertyger

I test-drove my BIL's Glock and Beretta at the range. It drove me nuts every time I picked up the Beretta for the first shot. It seemed like I was pulling forever to get that first shot off (yeah, I know I could have cocked it first). That was the day I decided to go Glock.


56 posted on 09/27/2005 7:56:49 AM PDT by Fudd
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To: yarddog
We had a great mechanic for forty years -- he worked on my dad's 62 Studebaker which he bought new at Baker Motors in downtown Atlanta. He left Baker and opened his own shop some time in the 70s . . . in the 90s he moved up to Cherokee County. We followed him all over the landscape. He wound up specializing in Volvos and Land Rovers (hey - you've always got lots of work, especially on the Land Rovers!)

He just retired in August and none of us know WHAT we're going to do - especially about the Studebaker (know anybody that wants a cherry red '62 Lark convertible complete with shop manuals? It runs fine but needs body and interior work.)

57 posted on 09/27/2005 7:58:41 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: AnAmericanMother
My first car was almost a Studebaker. Can't recall the model but I think it was a hawk. Someone had installed a studebaker V-8 in it although it came with a 6.

Daddy tried it out for a day and we discovered the clutch was slipping. The dealer would fix it but not for the same price so we passed on it.

58 posted on 09/27/2005 8:07:48 AM PDT by yarddog
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To: yarddog

My dad was a great shot with a rifle.I never saw him drive nails into a board,and I never thought about asking him how he rated in the army in 1950.He was assigned a machine gun which you had to be a good shot to get one.


59 posted on 09/27/2005 8:09:09 AM PDT by painter (We celebrate liberty which comes from God not from government.)
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To: AnAmericanMother

Excellent choices and good advice. Maybe you should be writing the advice column.


60 posted on 09/27/2005 8:11:19 AM PDT by mbynack
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