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To: Jonah Johansen



1. Some people love their cats or dogs and it hurts them e when they are killed.

If they really loved their animals they would train them properly and maintain control over them. I love my 10 yr old son but if I don't teach him at an early age not to run into the street without looking and then he gets killed by a car after darting out into the road, it would be my fault not the driver of the car.

Yes the little old lady down the block should keep her cat indoors and not let it wander into your yard, and yes you probably have the right to kill it, and yes its not your fault if the little old lady misses her companion and keeps hoping it will return, yes its her fault for letting it wander; that being said you don't have to be a liberal to occasionally have compassion for others.

I dont know how the cat getting loose got into this discussion or the liberal thing I'm quessing you have read previous posts by me and understand my feelings on this subject...well maybe understand isn't the right word maybe realize my feelings would be better.

2. Making a foolish mistake, which allows your dog to escape from a fenced yard does not mean you deserve to have your pet killed. Maybe it teaches kids responsibility to kill their cat or dog they love, but maybe their are kinder ways of teaching that lesson

I don't want to see an animal killed as much as you may believe that. I own an adorable lhaso apso and have owned cats in my life. I really do love animals my son has a guinea pig I adore but I just get sick of pet owners blaming everyone but themselves when they slip up. I agree the man probably didn't have to try to kill him so quickly without trying other methods of stopping the animal. Labs are usually very friendly but they are dumb. ( sorry )

3. Just because you have the 'right' to kill someone’s pet does not mean you should or that it is the right thing to do. You can be pro second amendment and pro use of guns in self defense and still not disagree humans and animals every time you have the "right" to.

It's not that I have a right to kill but that you don't know what a person who doesn't know your dog is thinking when your dog approachs them in a threatening manner. It could have very well been a child who this dog got nasty with and a small child has no defense against a dog this size. I have been bitten by dogs before in my life and it is no fun at all. I had a white german sheohard bite me on my side above my waist and had to get 15 stitches and suffered alot of pain luckily it was the neighbors dog and I knew where he lived so I didn't have to go through the rabies shots.

4. "never ever ever ever fire a warning" is not one of the 10 commandments

I know it's not a commandment from god but I do know that from my life experiences (I have worked in law enforcement) dealing with criminals and use of a gun that the worst thing you can do is fire a warning shot. It just isn't smart for a number of reasons. The only time you point and fire a weapon is when you intend to kill. I'm sorry if that bothers you but that is a fact.


50 posted on 09/28/2005 12:26:56 PM PDT by bdog2995
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To: bdog2995
I know it's not a commandment from god but I do know that from my life experiences (I have worked in law enforcement) dealing with criminals and use of a gun that the worst thing you can do is fire a warning shot. It just isn't smart for a number of reasons. The only time you point and fire a weapon is when you intend to kill. I'm sorry if that bothers you but that is a fact.

Dogs are not criminals. A gunshot will scare off most dogs. With a dog you can even let it bite you before it you shoot since it is not likely to take away your gun. No that is not a reasonable thing to let it do but I am just pointing out that dogs and criminals are not the same things.

If they really loved their animals they would train them properly and maintain control over them.

I would think a dog pretty useless if it did NOT run at me barking when it's female owner was unloading the car in the driveway and I, a strange male, was jogging or walking past on the road less than 20 yards away. I fully expect a dog to do that and reward them with a friendly greeting and some petting when they do it.
54 posted on 09/28/2005 12:37:16 PM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: bdog2995
Yes the little old lady down the block should keep her cat indoors and not let it wander into your yard, and yes you probably have the right to kill it, and yes its not your fault if the little old lady misses her companion and keeps hoping it will return, yes its her fault for letting it wander; that being said you don't have to be a liberal to occasionally have compassion for others.

Oh so you occasionally would condescend to calling animal control rather than shooting 90 year old Betty's cat who keeps hunting birds in your yard. 'Tis very kind of you.

55 posted on 09/28/2005 12:38:57 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (No wonder the Southern Baptist Church threw Greer out: Only one god per church! [Ann Coulter])
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87 posted on 09/28/2005 11:34:08 PM PDT by KneelBeforeZod ( I'm going to open Cobra Kai dojos all over this valley!)
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