Posted on 10/02/2005 9:21:43 AM PDT by wagglebee
Former New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani said Sunday he will contemplate next year whether to run for president in 2008.
"I will be considering it next year," Giuliani said during a visit to Denmark. But he added that playing with the idea of running for the Republican nomination for president did not mean he would actually do it.
"Sometime you warm up and get ready and you don't get in and pitch," he told reporters, in a baseball analogy.
Giuliani who was praised for his leadership following the September 11, 2001, attacks on the World Trade Center, thanked Danish firefighters who raised $8,400 in support for their New York colleagues.
"To us it was the only thing we could do, raise money and show our support," firefighter Jens Hjorth said.
Eight firefighters from the station raised the money by recording a CD with six songs called "The Skyline Changed." They sold 27,000 copies.
On Sunday, the band members handed over a copy of the CD to Giuliani, who in return gave them a New York Fire Department hat.
Giuliani was in Denmark to speak at a business leadership conference in the Danish capital on Monday.
In 2000, Giuliani ran for the U.S. Senate, but dropped out after he was diagnosed with prostate cancer.
There is absolutely NO POSSIBLE WAY that America would vote for someone to succeed his own brother as POTUS.
"I laugh in your general direction! This isn't a prime time infotainment program we're staffing, it's the president of the United States. Even I think Hillary would be more qualified."
Then you don't know beans about Hillary. She's qualified to lobby for terrists' pardons. That sums her up.
Hannity is thinking about what every waking hour of the day? Politics. World events. He's talking with whom every waking hour of the day? World leaders. His door is open to whom? More people than any Beltway clown DC ever had. He reads legal briefs in detail. He reads legislation in detail. He debates almost as much as he breathes.
People talk so much how they admire the Prime Minister, the way he speaks before the House of Commons. That doesn't light a candle to what talk radio hosts go through day-in and day-out.
Hannity could put together the most impressive presidential team the nation ever saw. He'd get in touch with national leaders like greased lightning and make it look easy.
Most important of all, he's in touch with US, the American voter.
He's the perfect outsider. I'm sick of perfect insiders, to be honest with you. FRegards....
Well, if your idea had a snowball's chance in hell of ever happening, I'd be more worried about it.
"Giuliani: I'm Considering 2008 Bid"
Please God, NO!!!!!!!!!!!!
See my tagline.
Dood, erasing Hillary as a 2008 threat by defeating her in 2006 trumps any happenstance or possibility that might exist for Rudi in 2008.
The most important priority it denying her the Oval Office. That can best be done by defeating her Senate run in 2006. Rudi is the man to do that.
" Real Americans don't want some pro-abortion, faggot-loving, gun-grabbing liberal from New York City."
LOL
He's got my vote. There is no such thing as a pure conservative....
Dear Arthur Wildfire! March,
"Some are banking that being 'more centrist' is in. I don't think so. The energy level of each base is a vast powerhouse just begging for leadership that fits it's agenda. Centrists do not reach either base."
I'm inclined to agree. The bases of each of the two major parties are more polarized than ever before. I know. As a fairly rabid social conservative, I know that I just would never consider voting for anyone at all nominated by the Party of Satan, no matter how "centrist." I'm unreachable by the Dammocraps. Look at how I refer to them. The chasm between them and me, and my folks, family, friends, is unbridgeable. And we represent easily 30% - 40% of the entire population.
Conversely, the bases of the Democrat Party feel similarly. Anyone who thinks that the typical Democrat is not going to think "fascist" when looking at Mr. Giuliani is dreaming. All the Democrat nominee has to say to keep the folks from wandering is, "Abner Louima."
Anyone who thinks that he can pull as a "centrist" doesn't really understand just how much the 30% - 40% of the population that is yellow dog Dammocrap hates anyone with an R after his name. They're not gonna vote for Rudy. No way, no how.
The "centrist" not only will not pull from the core 30% of the other guys, but will likely alienate a majority of the 30% core constituency of his own party. There ain't enough votes in the middle to win without the base of one or the other political party.
And, in the case of Mr. Giuliani, we're not even talking about an actual, real, live, "centrist." We're talking about a fellow who, on social issues, is to the left of a pretty big chunk of the DAMMOCRAP Party, no less the Republican Party. Even lots of Dammocraps were willing to vote to ban partial birth abortion, for the Defense of Marriage Act, etc.
No, if Mr. Giuliani is really serious about becoming president, he'll need to change the "R" to a "D."
He could team up with Sen. Lieberman, and run from the Scoop Jackson wing of the Democrat Party.
sitetest
"If it's anyone from congress, it ought to be a Representative: Tancredo. Don't make me laugh. Tancredo couldn't even win a statewide election in Colorado. He has..no chance as a national candidate."
Why do you think I'd rather have Hannity run? Tancredo is the name that borders advocates are rallied behind. Hannity would trump him. Who else will borders advocates rally behind? Please name one. It's a huge issue.
Do Not Lose Focus.
It's not about who the GOP nominee is in 2008. It is about Denying Hillary The Oval Office. The best way to do that is stopping her Senate re-election run in 2006.
Think long and hard about how you will deal with 4-8 years of Hillary as president. That's what the risk is.
Rudi should be running for Senate next year. Period. Anything else does the party, and the nation, a horrible disservice.
Dear HairOfTheDog,
Well, I think Sen. McCain would have an uphill battle to win the general election.
That's assuming he could actually win the nomination. Which I don't assume.
sitetest
If Rudy were running for senate, Hillary would just skip the race and move right to running for president. running Rudy for senate will not stop Hillary from making a presidential bid.
I don't know.
I think he wouldn't be able to stand up to the schedule of a heated primary and it will be a heated primary.
As to that, The issues he is strongest on are already covered by candidates that are stronger in other areas Rudy isn't.
I just don't see him making that big of a run as a primary candidate.
As for a football analogy, think the St. Louis Rams. They are flawed because as good as their offense is, they can't stop a high school team on defense. Rudy is very similar. For as much as people may look up to him for his strength during 9/11 and how the city of New York transformed under his leadership, he is extremely weak in certain key areas that will doom his candidacy.
"No, if Mr. Giuliani is really serious about becoming president, he'll need to change the "R" to a "D." He could team up with Sen. Lieberman, and run from the Scoop Jackson wing of the Democrat Party."
Makes about as much sense. =]
Dear oceanview,
"If Rudy were running for senate, Hillary would just skip the race and move right to running for president. running Rudy for senate will not stop Hillary from making a presidential bid."
That's true.
However, Hitlery is a much stronger candidate in '08 having handily defeated some second- or third-tier Republican in '06 than she is having dodged a race against Mr. Giuliani.
Even if she were to avoid running against Mr. Giuliani (and I believe she would avoid it), it would weaken her significantly in obtaining the nomination in '08.
sitetest
Yes, a candidate must be telegenic to be viable. But"
1. He's short. I can't find this out. His stature certainly seems big. I'm betting he's taller than Hillary, so if we're going on, the tallest candidate usually wins, I'd say we're okay.
2. He's bald. Well, thinning...a lot. But not bald in the chrome-dome way, and that's a good thing.
3. He wears glasses. Reading glasses. Big dif. So do most people over 50.
4. He's a short, bald man who wears glasses and has a minor speech impediment. That speech impediment may be a New York accent. Whatever, he is a riveting speaker.
5. He's an Italian-American. The ethnicities with the so-called hurdles to overcome in national politics are Hispanics and African-Americans. Rudy's became a non-issue quite some time ago. Tens of millions of Italian-Americans and Catholic voters...yeah, that's really gonna hurt him.
6. He's an Italian-American from New York. Finally! A Republican brings home the electoral prize of New York. Thank you, Rudy! (A likely lock for him.)
"Are these totally superficial qualities? Absolutely. But any one of them represents a serious challenge to a presidential candidate in this age of packaged candidates and mass media. Two of them make a candidate virtually unelectable. The combination of all six of them makes Giuliani something of a circus act on the national scene."
To coin a cliche, Rudy has gravitas. He would never be a circus. And the gravitas was hard-won.
I think YOU are looking at things superficially, Friend.
Parsing out individual traits may seem to make a case. But everything needs taken in aggregate: all the traits, the time in history, the dynamics in the country, etc.
Again, Rudy is not my first choice by any means, but he is also by no means a joke candidate, as many--not one, not a few--many polls choose him overwhelmingly for the candidate, and the winner.
Yes, a candidate must be telegenic to be viable. But"
1. He's short. I can't find this out. His stature certainly seems big. I'm betting he's taller than Hillary, so if we're going on, the tallest candidate usually wins, I'd say we're okay.
2. He's bald. Well, thinning...a lot. But not bald in the chrome-dome way, and that's a good thing.
3. He wears glasses. Reading glasses. Big dif. So do most people over 50.
4. He's a short, bald man who wears glasses and has a minor speech impediment. That speech impediment may be a New York accent. Whatever, he is a riveting speaker.
5. He's an Italian-American. The ethnicities with the so-called hurdles to overcome in national politics are Hispanics and African-Americans. Rudy's became a non-issue quite some time ago. Tens of millions of Italian-Americans and Catholic voters...yeah, that's really gonna hurt him.
6. He's an Italian-American from New York. Finally! A Republican brings home the electoral prize of New York. Thank you, Rudy! (A likely lock for him.)
"Are these totally superficial qualities? Absolutely. But any one of them represents a serious challenge to a presidential candidate in this age of packaged candidates and mass media. Two of them make a candidate virtually unelectable. The combination of all six of them makes Giuliani something of a circus act on the national scene."
To coin a cliche, Rudy has gravitas. He would never be a circus. And the gravitas was hard-won.
I think YOU are looking at things superficially, Friend.
Parsing out individual traits may seem to make a case. But everything needs taken in aggregate: all the traits, the time in history, the dynamics in the country, etc.
Again, Rudy is not my first choice by any means, but he is also by no means a joke candidate, as many--not one, not a few--many polls choose him overwhelmingly for the candidate, and the winner.
"running Rudy for senate will not stop Hillary from making a presidential bid."
What if he won the senate race?
I have no idea. Hannity is even less qualified to govern than Tancredo.
Who else will borders advocates rally behind?
If they're smart they'll rally behind the Republican nominee [whoever it is], or stay home. If the borders people get behind HRC there's gonna be bloodbath on the right.
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