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To: neverdem

Hmm. Seems to me that a property owner has every right to set the rules regarding firearms on his property.

If I hire someone to put a new roof on my house, mow my lawn, etc., do I not have the right to tell him if he will not disarm, he is not welcome on my property, if that is my desire? In doing so, I am not infringing on his rights. He is still free to go anywhere else, just not on my property.


3 posted on 10/07/2005 11:26:26 AM PDT by newgeezer (What part of "shall not be infringed" does our nanny state fail to understand?)
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To: newgeezer

"In doing so, I am not infringing on his rights. He is still free to go anywhere else, just not on my property."

Right, so the property owner has the right to tell everyone on said property that they must vote for Liberal Democrats or else they need to find another job?


5 posted on 10/07/2005 11:31:27 AM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: newgeezer

But many large companies don't own the land. The landlord owns the building. Usually the inside is the tenats responsibility and the external maintenance is the landlords. So can company fire you for bring a weapon on land it does not own?


7 posted on 10/07/2005 11:32:33 AM PDT by Sinner6 (http://www.digital-misfits.com)
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To: newgeezer
Very true. Fine line here though, The bill is not saying you are free to arm yourself while at work, only to carry in you automobile. To protect yourself to and from work.
Fine line to me... I am not really in disagreement with you either.
Private owner owns a Mall. Should he be able to forbid a particular race of people to enter his mall?

GE
8 posted on 10/07/2005 11:34:29 AM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: newgeezer
If I hire someone to put a new roof on my house, mow my lawn, etc., do I not have the right to tell him if he will not disarm, he is not welcome on my property, if that is my desire? In doing so, I am not infringing on his rights. He is still free to go anywhere else, just not on my property.

If you want anyone who works for you to relinquish their natural right to self defense, just hang out the sign.

9 posted on 10/07/2005 11:37:17 AM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: newgeezer
In many states, that are not liberal "Peoples Republics", a person's vehicle (his property), is an extension of his home, and thus, he can have a firearm in it for protection, or any other lawful purpose.

Are you going to search every contractors personal vehicle before he is allowed to do work on your property?

Of course not. It's assinine and an invasion of privacy, not to mention infringing on the contractor's right to self-defense, and the means to effect such defense if it becomes necessary.

Besides, those intent on doing harm with ANY weapon, not just firearms, are going to try and do what they want to do.

Wouldn't it be better if many of your fellow, law-abiding employees had access to their personal firearms kept locked in their personal vehicles to put down such an attack?

I'll continue my boycott of Phillips-Conoco and Weyerhaeuser to make the point.

11 posted on 10/07/2005 11:42:46 AM PDT by DocH (Gun-grabbers, you can HAVE my guns... lead first.)
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To: newgeezer
Hmm. Seems to me that a property owner has every right to set the rules regarding firearms on his property.

Within reasonable limits, sure. But what would be reasonable about inspecting a roofing contractors truck for firearms?

If I hire someone to put a new roof on my house, mow my lawn, etc., do I not have the right to tell him if he will not disarm, he is not welcome on my property, if that is my desire?

Sure you [as an individual] do, but why is that your desire? -- Aren't you aware that it is a Constitutional 'desire', - a law of the land, - that our RKBA's be uninfringed? -- Why do you want to infringe on my right to have a gun in my private property [my truck]?

In doing so, I am not infringing on his rights.

Many state legislators & courts now disagree. --- The Georgia Supreme Court nailed the issue:
They said that your vehicle is an extension of your home, and anything you can legally possess in your home you can carry in your vehicle onto both public and private parking lots.

15 posted on 10/07/2005 12:09:58 PM PDT by faireturn
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To: newgeezer

Hmm. Seems to me that a property owner has every right to set the rules regarding firearms on his property.

this is a very touchy issue. my question is, does my car cease to be my property when i drive onto yours? i believe that i have the right to tell you that you can't come into my house armed, but not that i can tell you whether or not you can have the firearm in your vehicle.

also at issue, how does the company justify search? is there a written document, signed by the employee, that allows this search, or is does it violate search and siezure laws?


16 posted on 10/07/2005 1:07:49 PM PDT by absolootezer0 ("My God, why have you forsaken us.. no wait, its the liberals that have forsaken you... my bad")
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To: newgeezer

Are you going to search the cars of every person who mows your lawn, etc? There's quite a difference between having a gun locked in the trunk of your car and wearing one while mowing the lawn.


29 posted on 10/07/2005 7:39:15 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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